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andy
10-22-2008, 08:20 AM
Uh oh, somebody better tell Gore his "theories" aren't panning out.


http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=F1F2F75F-802A-23AD-4701-A92B4EBBCCBF


And no I don't believe in man made Global Warming (I'm sorry, I forgot that phrase has been replaced by "Global Climate Change").



Ice sheets melting...it's gotta be Global Warming. Ice sheets increasing it's gotta be Global Climate Change. Hahaha :p

koreberg
10-22-2008, 08:29 AM
Did you not see the matrix of climate change doom? All must support global climate change initiatives, or the consequences could be far worse than you think. Just look for the matrix it will explain all.

Chuck
10-22-2008, 08:31 AM
Someone explain to me all the documentation since the 1950's the Artic icecap is thinning by the US Navy - navigating the Northwest Passage is now possible for surface ships and the Artic will be ice-free in the summer between 2013 and 2040?

Yes, I know it's the other pole but this is relvalant.

mparrish
10-22-2008, 08:36 AM
Yes Andy, we are all aware of Inhofe and his position.

brick
10-22-2008, 11:07 AM
The funny part is the big oil derreck on his public web page. Gee, I wonder where his campaign contributions come from? But just for the sake of argument, let's say that we aren't contributing to global climate change. So what? Should we abandon renewables, buy thirstier cars, and stop worrying about efficiency in the home?

I suggest that the correct answer is "hell no!" GW/GCC/whatever you want to call it is only one of the many reasons that we can't just keep doing what we have been doing. Pick from any of energy security, our economy, public health, money coming out of your own pocket...all of which stand on their own. Politicising this one issue is nothing more than a distraction. Bury it completely and we still have a very big problem.

phoebeisis
10-22-2008, 03:48 PM
There are other indicators of warming.
The ocean PH is dropping from the increased C02 in it.
The ocean temps are rising.
Sea level have already risen over the last 100 years.
CO2 in the atm has increased from 280 ppm in 1780 to 380 ppm currently.The CO2 levels are from ice cores.
Of course to believe the above you have to believe that data from 50-100 years ago is accurate.

No one can make you believe anything.It has become tangled up in political and social BS.

The melting ice caps aren't what will cause the oceans to rise. The expansion of the warmer water is what will cause the sea level to rise.

In some ways it is moot, since the solution to our energy problem(foreign energy) is almost the same as to Global warming. We need alternatives energy sources-wind,nuke,solar etc. Increased use of coal is the point where the solutions diverge.
Charlie

fuzzy
10-22-2008, 04:17 PM
Uh oh, somebody better tell Gore his "theories" aren't panning out.

http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=F1F2F75F-802A-23AD-4701-A92B4EBBCCBF ...


This is not the ' *.gov' view, it is Senator Inhofe's view. He is just one out of 535 politically biased congresscritters on Capitol Hill. Is there any particular reason I should trust this particular voice any more than the other 534?

-- Dean

Chuck
10-22-2008, 05:37 PM
Anyone think a blog should be taken as serously as a publication?

ILAveo
10-22-2008, 09:48 PM
Funny thing is the last I knew the guy I know who hunts dinosaur bones in the antarctic (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/hammer.html) thought the climate was warming up down there. I guess I'll have to go to my wife's work's Xmas party to ask him if things have changed :rolleyes:.

bestmapman
10-22-2008, 10:46 PM
Funny thing is the last I knew the guy I know who hunts dinosaur bones in the antarctic (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/hammer.html) thought the climate was warming up down there. I guess I'll have to go to my wife's work's Xmas party to ask him if things have changed :rolleyes:.

That is one of the funniest posts I've read. No against you IlAveo, but just that the Dinosaurs had to live in a really warm climate. This paleantologist is finding bones from animals that lived in a really warm climate sometime before the present, and now it is frozen solid and we are using the paleontologists anecdotal evidence that the climate is warming. Really, how do you think the dinosaurs would feel about the warming.

How ironic, the bones were from a really warm climate, and now are frozen. Climate change, it looks like that is what Antartica is all about.

ILAveo
10-22-2008, 10:59 PM
That is one of the funniest posts I've read. No against you IlAveo, but just that the Dinosaurs had to live in a really warm climate. This paleantologist is finding bones from animals that lived in a really warm climate sometime before the present, and now it is frozen solid and we are using the paleontologists anecdotal evidence that the climate is warming. Really, how do you think the dinosaurs would feel about the warming.

How ironic, the bones were from a really warm climate, and now are frozen. Climate change, it looks like that is what Antartica is all about.

I take your point, but it is obvious spin doctoring to call a prominent PhD antarctic geologist's observations of antarctic climate change "anecdotal." If antarctic geolgists aren't experts in that field, who possibly could be:eyebrow:? Please provide details:).

bestmapman
10-22-2008, 11:40 PM
Paleontology is the study of fossils. Weather and climate change is not a paleontologist expertise. It is anecdotal, because it is an observation by an unskilled observer. This would be no different than a janitor observing what the weather was doing.

The definition of anecdotal evidence is:

"Based on casual observations or indications rather than rigorous or scientific analysis."

I believe that is exactly what he is doing. Anecdotal was not meant as a slam, just a description of what it is. An observation from a casual observer.



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