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xcel
10-21-2008, 08:14 AM
“Even though he wants a new car, he says, he's determined to get a good deal. So for now, like many potential car buyers, he says he'll wait on the sidelines.” (usatoday.com/money/autos/2008-10-20-auto-dealerships-credit-crisis-loans_N.htm)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/Chrysler_Cars_on_Dealership_lot.jpgSharon Carty and Chris Woodyard – USA Today – Oct. 20, 2008

Rows of unsold Chryslers – Auto sales across the country have slumped during the economic downturn.

What if Ford, GM and Chrysler’s sales this month are down 50%? Can a domestic dealership survive by selling just 3 vehicles per day given the overhead? -- Ed.

DETROIT — They may be folks you love to hate, but it's hard not to have sympathy for car dealers these days. These business owners are manning the bucket brigades in an auto industry meltdown.

"Things are going disastrously," says Ray Ciccolo, owner and CEO of Village Automotive Group in suburban Boston. "Most car dealers were down over 30% last month, and that is a catastrophe."

Many won't survive. Almost 600 of the about 20,000 U.S. new car dealers have shut their doors this year, and an additional 2,000 will close within 18 months, predicts Mark Johnson, president of a Seattle consulting firm that helps auto dealers buy, sell or merge operations.

In September alone, 61 dealers — two a day — closed shop or downsized to used car lots, says the National Automobile Dealers Association (NADA). Wounded by gas prices that killed sales of their most profitable SUVs and trucks, dealers are being hammered as the economy depresses sales of all models.

Even people with good jobs feel poorer and less confident to take on years of payments for a big purchase. Those who still would are finding it harder to get credit — General Motors credit arm GMAC now requires a credit score of 700 or better for a car loan… http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2008-10-20-auto-dealerships-credit-crisis-loans_N.htm

Chuck
10-21-2008, 09:15 AM
Think it was the Minneapolis Star within the last month, but she blamed this recession on out of control credit, then did a history. Car loans started in the 1920's, then credit cards after WWII. Sometime in the 1980's credit cards were used more than checks. Now, 75% of Americans have debt.

Shiba3420
10-21-2008, 11:01 AM
Its amazing how many little dealer (less than 50 car) lots are still sitting abandoned after the mid/large lots killed their business. I wonder how many large lots are going to be nothing but an eyesore in another year or two.

phoebeisis
10-21-2008, 04:22 PM
I've noticed that "little lots" have "better" big SUVs than they did in the past. A 2003 Suburban would rarely be on a 25 car lot, but there are plenty of them, and their brothers now. Normally sales of used Suburbans would have picked up after the 30% drop in gasoline.They haven't; some ebay dealers have tried to inch the prices up, but they just don't sell.

The only used Big SUVs that sell are those that are in great shape, loaded, and low priced-a 2004 Loaded Suburban(leather,sun roof etc)-68000 miles for $10,950 is a good example. In 2004 a similar 2000 Suburban would have sold for $18,000 or so.

All car dealers are dying.This would be a great time to pick up a new Corolla or a used Metro,Insight, TDI VW, Prizm,Civic etc.

There is a MT Insight-2001 I think- at a local dealer for $5995. It has 180,000 miles on it, but worth a look.
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