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SlowHands
01-16-2008, 07:41 AM
Switchgrass ethanol delivers 540 percent of the energy used to produce it, compared with just roughly 25 percent more energy returned by corn-based ethanol according to the most optimistic studies. (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=grass-makes-better-ethanol-than-corn)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/bio_grass.jpgDavid Biello - Scientific American - Jan 8, 2008

Farmers in Nebraska and the Dakotas brought the U.S. closer to becoming a biofuel economy, planting huge tracts of land for the first time with switchgrass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchgrass)—a native North American perennial grass (Panicum virgatum) that often grows on the borders of cropland naturally—and proving that it can deliver more than five times more energy than it takes to grow it.

Working with the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), the farmers tracked the seed used to establish the plant, fertilizer used to boost its growth, fuel used to farm it, overall rainfall and the amount of grass ultimately harvested for five years on fields ranging from seven to 23 acres in size (three to nine hectares).

Once established, the fields yielded from 5.2 to 11.1 metric tons of grass bales per hectare, depending on rainfall, says USDA plant scientist Ken Vogel. "It fluctuates with the timing of the precipitation,'' he says. "Switchgrass needs most of its moisture in spring and midsummer. If you get fall rains, it's not going to do that year's crops much good."

But yields from a grass that only needs to be planted once would deliver an average of 13.1 megajoules of energy as ethanol for every megajoule of petroleum consumed—in the form of nitrogen fertilizers or diesel for tractors—growing them. "It's a prediction because right now there are no biorefineries built that handle cellulosic material" like that which switchgrass provides, Vogel notes. "We're pretty confident the ethanol yield is pretty close." This means that switchgrass ethanol delivers 540 percent of the energy used to produce it, compared with just roughly 25 percent more energy returned by corn-based ethanol according to the most optimistic studies…http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=grass-makes-better-ethanol-than-corn

ksstathead
01-16-2008, 09:51 AM
Hopefully the existing corn ethanol plants can be retooled for cellulose, salvaging something from the latest beltway/corn belt boondoggle. I only know what I get from reading, but one gets the sense that the corn ethanol push is driven by the force of the Iowa caucuses...:rolleyes:

xcel
01-16-2008, 10:25 AM
Hi Ksstathead:

___There will be an awful lot of Ethanol plants going belly up if the new Ethanol processing by Bio-chemistry (Cellulosic) means comes about. I still believe cellulosic is a long shot but if it works, welcome to a Brazil like Ethanol production only cheaper, more abundant and possibly even more CO2 neutral :D :D :D

___Good Luck

___Wayne

jcp123
01-16-2008, 10:26 PM
I was reading National Geographic's ethanol article called "Growing Fuel". It seems almost everything makes better ethanol than corn...

Chuck
01-16-2008, 10:31 PM
I wish every lawn mower had mulchers and the mulch either saved fertilizer or was picked up for ethanol processing.

featherfoot
01-16-2008, 10:42 PM
yup, and hemp makes better material than cotton, without the pesticides. this is why we should have scientists running the country, not zealous idiots.

jcp123
01-16-2008, 10:45 PM
yup, and hemp makes better material than cotton, without the pesticides. this is why we should have scientists running the country, not zealous idiots.

That last part makes two intelligent posts. What's this about zealous?

Elixer
01-16-2008, 11:12 PM
I'm very very skeptical. It is very difficult to use bacteria to create a process which is as effective as they say it should be. Bacterial processes almost always scale very badly, meaning we will just have to wait and see if these large plants can actually work. Also, it's often very hard to maintain bacterial processes over long periods of time. Often the output drops out after a short time and then it takes huge capital to get the thing going again. Currently this switchgrass idea sounds more like political environmental propaganda than actual science being put to use. I'm not sure I'm happy to see the government investing real capital in a process which has not been proven.

koreberg
01-16-2008, 11:29 PM
Its time to build some reactors and some electric vehicles.



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