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Info just released today...

http://www.fcx.honda.com

... and let the drooling begin.

Cheers;

MSantos

I just like the idea of referring to my car's power plant as a "stack." (Not quite as good as "pile" but not as tough to clear with the NRC.)

Hi MSantos:

2007 Los Angeles Auto Show - new fuel efficient automobile offerings. (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/in-the-news/t-2007-los-angeles-auto-show-new-fuel-efficient-automobile-offerings-7272.html)

___Tomorrow the public test subjects get their Clarity’s with Ahhhrrrnnnoollllddd looking over everybody’s shoulder :D

___Good Luck

___Wayne

So what about the energy of making hydrogen? Does it still cost more energy to make hydrogen that the amt. of hydrogen you get in return??
(And is my question clear?)


And, two, why isn't Honda working on a plug in hybrid. I see from the report here that NOT plugging in was a huge ad factor. Hmmm.


--des

No kidding Wayne.

I rarely feel envious of anyone, but right now I envy the lucky folks from Torrance, Santa Monica and Irvine. Oh well, our turn will come. ;)

Des:
Right now, an FCV is not for everyone that's for sure. If I could have it, it would the cleanest alternative at my disposal as I would promptly install Phill in my home and refuel the car every night. Natural Gas is pretty affordable in my area and the Electrical power is derived entirely from hydro sources. So no major environmental concerns here for me at all.

The FCV would be a better fit for my winters as well. A Plug-in would be fractionally effective for me 5-6 months out of the year as local utility tests have demonstrated.

Cheers;

MSantos

did they have to describe the front end as "aggressive"? :(

Every energy transfer is less than 100% efficient, so the fact that you don't get as much energy out of the fuel cell as you put into electrolosis doesn't mean that it is bad. It is the extremely poor ratio of electricity out vs. electricity in that makes it bad. Batteries have a significantly better ratio (but still less than 1). Of course, most hydrogen is made from reforming natural gas rather than electrolosis, because it is cheaper. They have also considered on-board reforming of gasoline because it eliminates the big hydrogen tank.

It looks like they did a nice job on the car, but I'm not drooling.