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Chuck
10-06-2007, 12:45 PM
Biogas advocates include Arnold Schwartzenegger, no stranger to BS himself (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/10/05/cow.methane/index.html). :D

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/20070528_cow.jpgCNN - Oct. 6, 2007

London - The butt -- in more ways than one -- of a thousand puerile schoolboy jokes, methane, in the form of natural gas, has for some time now been used to fuel cars and other modes of transport (the Honda Civic GX, which uses natural gas, has been rated the cleanest car on earth).

Despite producing 25 percent less CO2 than petrol or diesel, however, natural gas is still a fossil fuel, and burning it results in the emission of significant amounts of atmospheric pollution.

As a "biogas", however -- derived from recently living organic matter -- methane is far less environmentally damaging since the CO2 it gives off is immediately reabsorbed by plants and thus adds little to the net sum of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

Methane biogas is already being used in projects around the globe to generate electricity -- in China and India, indeed, it has been employed for decades -- and is attracting increasing interest from the car industry as a source of renewable energy....http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/10/05/cow.methane/index.html

MnFocus
10-06-2007, 01:24 PM
With as many vehicles as there are on the roads ,if say 20% of them are methane powered could there be a possibility of methane poisoning of the atmoshere? I just tend to think there isn't enough plants to contain excesses of this gas .

ILAveo
10-06-2007, 05:29 PM
There are a couple places I've noticed that already produce and use biogas. Waste water treatment plants (which sometimes use it onsite) and landfills. (BTW: Who says I never go anyplace nice?) In the best of all worlds this project would just be a diversion of a methane feedstock away from one biogas producer to another, but many landfills don't capture and use their methane.

According to USEPA landfill methane emissions are one of the biggest greenhouse gas problems in the US. IIRC they have a program with on again off again incentives for capturing and using the methane. Capturing and using this biogas methane that is already out there sounds like a GHG twofer to me. Diverting slaughterhouse waste from the landfill probably would also reduce landfill methane emissions.

This site with info about producing biodiesel from landfill gas came up on Google for me: http://www.seco.cpa.state.tx.us/re_biomass-urban.htm.

laurieaw
10-06-2007, 06:08 PM
but driving around with a cow in the car, wouldn't the extra weight compromise the increase in mileage? :D

Earthling
10-06-2007, 06:10 PM
Here's another project, that turns landfill gas into fuel for vehicles:

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/01/prometheus_prod.html#more

Biogas has promise for uses other than in vehicles, such as heating or electricty generation.

Harry

MnFocus
10-06-2007, 06:29 PM
but driving around with a cow in the car, wouldn't the extra weight compromise the increase in mileage? :D

As a Vegan ...just add the hose under the drivers seat and...well I see a Huuuuuge weight saving and FE increase in my instance :D

Right Lane Cruiser
10-06-2007, 07:39 PM
Rick!!!! I almost fell out of my chair here at the wedding reception I'm attending!! :eek::p:D

PaleMelanesian
10-06-2007, 07:58 PM
You might be a hypermiler if...

You read CleanMPG at a wedding reception!

Chuck
10-06-2007, 08:04 PM
As a Vegan ...just add the hose under the drivers seat and...well I see a Huuuuuge weight saving and FE increase in my instance :D

http://www.gasbgon.com/animation.htm Powerful! :D

Right Lane Cruiser
10-06-2007, 08:05 PM
;) My iPhone makes it pretty easy. :o

MnFocus
10-06-2007, 08:10 PM
Rick!!!! I almost fell out of my chair here at the wedding reception I'm attending!! :eek::p:D

I'd suggest GasX ;)



or this :

http://www.gasbgon.com/animation.htm Powerful! :D


Hahahahaha!!! Noice!



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