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Dan
08-24-2007, 07:32 PM
ScanGaugeII Calibration Worksheet (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=14)

I've had some requests to go into a bit more detail on the calibration worksheet. Here's the basic premise on it, posted in the Tips and Tricks thread...

Calibration
The math may get a bit fuzzy, but I'll try to clod trough it. There are two settings you can set, one is Speed plus or minus whole percents (±1%, ±2%, ±3%...). This effects MPH, DIST, MPG, DISTANCE TO EMPTY (think that's it). So if you see that SGII is reading too low on MPG, DIST, or MPH, then bump up SPEED, till MPH on the gauge and on the dash match (or until DIST on the gauge and on the odometer match).

The other setting you can adjust is in FILLUP and that controls how it monitors fuel use. This is a plus or minus percent meant to get the gallons you put in the tank to match the gallons SG calculated you burned. This effects GPH, MPG, DIST TO EMPTY. So if SG has calculated that less gas was burned than what you just pumped in, the set calibration to some positive percent till they come in line. The manual (http://www.scangauge.com/support/pdfs/SGIIManual.pdf) (search fillup) goes over this to some detail.

Now the interesting part comes when you start comparing your MPG. Since for me the MPG is the most important figure. MPG is Miles/gallon. Another ratio to state it is MPH/GPH (GPH=gallon per hour).

So increasing MPH increases MPG.
Decreasing MPH decreases MPG.
Increasing GPH decreases MPG.
Decreasing GPH increases MPG.

Sounds simple, but it's easy to get mixed up. So if SG reports a lower MPG than we calculate (either at the pump or on the FCD) then we need to increase MPG. We can do this by either increasing (+%) the speed calibration or decreasing (-%) the fillup calibration. And conversely if SG reports a higher MPG than we calculate (either at the pump or on the FCD) then we need to decrease MPG. We can do this by either decreasing (-%) the speed calibration or increasing (+%) the fillup calibration.

Confused yet? I've added a spreadsheet to the uploads section to do the math for you.
ScanGaugeII Calibration Worksheet (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=14)

Now there is a little trick I found on the FILLUP calibration. I found it best to do FILLUP>DONE without calibrating, then when gallons consumed is 0.0 do FILLUP again (before you start the car), that way you can set the calibration in arbitrary tenths of a percent 1.1%, 1.2% ... etc. Try it on your next tank to see for yourself.
Confusing... yeah I know. I'm not too gifted at turning math into English. Hopefully by restating the points there will be sufficient convergence.

So the spreadsheet basically takes a known good estimate of your mileage and compares it to Scangauge's view of your mileage. Works good if your known good is a car maker's fuel consumption display (like on the Prius), but not so good when the "known good" is a gas receipt. Problem is, it's hard to fill your tank to the same level every time. So when you under-fill on one fill-up and over-fill on the next, the calibrations vary wildly. So what is needed is an averaging mechanism (that I left out of the first draft). I'll correct it this weekend, so we might be able to fix it.

Let's take what's out there now.

The SGII comes with a calibration method that adjusts the actual gallons used and the measured gallons used. This is covered in the manual, so I won't dwell on it. My problem with this is that it doesn't offer enough granularity. Both speed calibrations and gallon calibrations effect the measured MPG. So what the spreadsheet does is predict the effect of both of these calibrations on a given tank.

Time for an example:
Lets say at your next fillup your ODO says you made 386.4 miles on your tank.
Now lets say SG reported your tank distance as 384.1.

SG underreported distance by 0.5988 %

Let say that at this fillup you put in 17.513 gallons
And SG reported 17.3 gallons consumed.

SG over reported gallons by 1.0565 %

So now at fillup, you change 17.3 to 17.5. Done right?

Lets see how that lines up.

SG(now) = 384.1 / 17.5 = 21.82386
Actual = 386.4 / 17.513 = 22.06361

So even after the calibration, SG is under reporting MPG by 1.10%

Now try with the spreadsheet.
Put zero next to MiAdj, RQMi, GalAdj
Put 386.4 next to MiFCD
Put 384.1 next to MiSG
Put 22.06361 next to mpgFCD
Put 21.82386 next to mpgSG

Now you will see that RQGal has changed to -1.09. The spreadsheet is suggesting you adjust gallons down by 1.09%. Close as we can get on SGII is 1.1%. So test it by putting -1.10% next to GalAdj.

Now you'll see that the mpgTST field went to 22.07. This is what SG would have reported WITH the calibration. So the spreadsheet got you a lot closer (22.07) than the normal calibration methods (21.82).

Now since distance is borderline we could test what would happen if we did a 1% adjustment on distance. So since SG underreported distance by 0.59% we could round up to 1%.

Put 1% next RQMi
Put 1% next to MiAdj

The spreadsheet now suggest dialing gallons down by 0.10%. So try putting -0.10% next to GalAdj, and you will see the prediction changed from 22.07 to 22.06.

So those are two calibrations you could try in this hypothetical
{Speed = 0%; Gallon = -1.1% } = 22.07 mpg
{Speed = 1%; Gallon = -0.1% } = 22.06 mpg

both of which are trying to zero in on your tank numbers of 22.06361

I'll be making some revisions for averaging soon... So stay tuned.

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xcel
08-25-2007, 04:12 AM
Hi Dan:

___You can also change the speedo/distance on the fly. If you are over by 5 miles at the 250 mile point, you can back off the distance by 1% and then let that offset build in. At the 500 mile point, it may be dead on which means you are a bit below actual now.

___A 1% addition/subtraction can be manipulated on the fly but that does not mean it will be more accurate over a tank in terms of actual mpg. Lead foot the first 250 miles and make the speed/distance adjustment and hypermile the rest and your actual will be even further off :(

___Anyway, just thought I would add this opportunity to approach actual in a shortened time frame rather then wait to run through a whole tank if you are short on time. I know someone who is ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Dan
08-31-2007, 12:50 AM
Updated to Version 1.1 on 8/30/2007 for better documentation and history.

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2way
02-19-2008, 10:45 PM
Dan,

Isn't E5 supposed to =E4*(1-E3) ?

Your SG measured Miles seems to be in reverse.... If I am @ +1%, then the SG reports +1% more than it measures. Using your E5=E4*(1+E3), your spreadsheet will say that the SG measured higher miles... when it actually measured a shorter distance.

Dan
02-26-2008, 03:09 PM
Dan,

Isn't E5 supposed to =E4*(1-E3) ?

Your SG measured Miles seems to be in reverse.... If I am @ +1%, then the SG reports +1% more than it measures. Using your E5=E4*(1+E3), your spreadsheet will say that the SG measured higher miles... when it actually measured a shorter distance.

Your right! The relation is inverted, on cell E5 for both sheets. Changing to E4*(1-E3) doesn't fix it, but changing to E4/(1+E3) does. This isn't readily apperrent until you put in a huge delta. If you try 50% on a reported distance of 300, your measured should be 200. This is because 200 * (1 + 50%) = 200*1.5 = 300.

Sorry for the confusion guys.

Thanks for the catch 2-way.

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2way
02-29-2008, 10:39 AM
:thumbs_up: NP, you're welcome. It just didn't make sense to me. Thanks for your work on this.

But, I guess I should go back to math class and bone up on %'s ;)

Dan
04-16-2008, 02:12 PM
:thumbs_up: NP, you're welcome. It just didn't make sense to me. Thanks for your work on this.

But, I guess I should go back to math class and bone up on %'s ;)

Added Version 1.2 on 4/16/2008 to correct error in E5 (noted in help thread).

sorry for the delay.

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n3rdyguy
06-04-2008, 07:23 AM
Hi
Is it possible to make a version for us that uses litres/100km?

Right Lane Cruiser
06-04-2008, 08:25 AM
Hello, N3rdyGuy and welcome to CleanMPG!!

Dan
06-04-2008, 04:09 PM
n3rdyguy... Welcome as well. I suppose I could rev a version 1.3. PM me if I forget or if it falls off my list. The math should be strait forward, I just need too sit down and work it out.

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BrianWillan
06-21-2008, 06:40 PM
Hi
Is it possible to make a version for us that uses litres/100km?

Just convert your liters/100km to km/liter and then use the spreadsheet as is. The spreadsheet is essentially unit independent. Meaning that it wouldn't really know the difference if you entered a km for miles or liters for gallons, as long as the units are consistent.

Cheers

Brian Willan
Oshawa, Ontario
Canada

jdhog
11-01-2008, 06:48 PM
This looks like useful info. I'm coming up to my first fill while having a SG so I'll be needing to read this again soon to help me calibrate it. Thanks!

morfes
11-30-2008, 07:34 PM
I have a question about how am I use this utility.

I go to the gas station and I fill up
I write down to a paper the data we need to fill the spreadsheet.
Then I need to go at my home to fill it so I should do some km. At the gas station I reset the data as you suggest at the spreadsheet without adjust anything.
I go home and the spreadsheet calculate for example that I need to adjust the fuel at the sg 4%.When should I adjust it? Because this moment the sg has already done some distance from the gas station to my home....

Dan
11-30-2008, 11:33 PM
Well I was carrying it on my cell phone so that solved your immediate problem.

Plus the spreadsheet will simply zero in on a calibration setting over multiple tanks. You can just follow one tank behind the spreadsheet if you like. Won't effect the math since I factor out whatever calibration you have set.

So plug in TankA get CalibA. When you fill TankB, set you calibration to CalibA, then go home and fill in your tank to get CalibB. When you fill TankC, set your calibration to CalibB.... One tank behind.

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morfes
12-01-2008, 04:28 AM
Well I was carrying it on my cell phone so that solved your immediate problem.

Plus the spreadsheet will simply zero in on a calibration setting over multiple tanks. You can just follow one tank behind the spreadsheet if you like. Won't effect the math since I factor out whatever calibration you have set.

So plug in TankA get CalibA. When you fill TankB, set you calibration to CalibA, then go home and fill in your tank to get CalibB. When you fill TankC, set your calibration to CalibB.... One tank behind.

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Thank you very much for your answer , but I have a question more. Every time I fill up , I will use a new tank at the step 2? I mean tha I don't erase the previous data and should I write the new one so the spreadsheet calculate all of the fill ups?

Dan
12-01-2008, 11:30 AM
Thank you very much for your answer , but I have a question more. Every time I fill up , I will use a new tank at the step 2? I mean tha I don't erase the previous data and should I write the new one so the spreadsheet calculate all of the fill ups?Yes, the top bold line of step 2 is the accumulated total. Add each tank into a blank row in step 2. This will sum all the tanks together to help get a very accurate picture of the required calibrations.

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morfes
12-01-2008, 11:56 AM
Yes, the top bold line of step 2 is the accumulated total. Add each tank into a blank row in step 2. This will sum all the tanks together to help get a very accurate picture of the required calibrations.

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Thank you again! I test it and I will post the results!

Showbizk
12-01-2008, 01:29 PM
The only problem I've had with this is by the time I get home after filling and make the spreadsheet entries to calibrate, I lose about 4 miles of data on the tank, since changing the calibration zeroes out other entries...

PaleMelanesian
12-01-2008, 01:34 PM
Any time within the first gallon, you can change the offsets on the fly. Just go to fillup and adjust it, but don't hit save. Sure, the first 4 miles might be off by 1%, but that's not much.

morfes
12-04-2008, 07:48 AM
Any time within the first gallon, you can change the offsets on the fly. Just go to fillup and adjust it, but don't hit save.

But If I do that and not hit save , it doesn't save the offset...

PaleMelanesian
12-04-2008, 09:21 AM
It does for me. It saves the offset, but doesn't reset the tank.

Dan
12-04-2008, 09:54 AM
One strategy I'd suggest is to either leave it uncalibrated for the first tank or so, or to simply stay one tank behind the worksheet as I suggested in the previous post.

For example. I fill up on the 12th of every month. So on January 12th I fill up and leave the gauge uncalibrated ("0.0" for fuel; "0.0" for speed). On January 13th I enter the numbers into the spread sheet then print the spreadsheet. I keep the printout in my car. On February 12th I fill up but this time I pull out the printout from my glove box. I use the fuel and speed adjustments I worked out back in January. On February 13th I go home and enter the February tank into the spreadsheet and use the data to come up with a new calibration number. I print the spreadsheet and put it in my glove box to use for the March tank.

The spreadsheet is intended to zero in on the best figure over time. The more tanks you put in, the closer your calibrations should get you to actual.

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B72
07-29-2009, 09:24 AM
I'm trying to download the SGcalibration.zip spreadsheet. I have saved it to my hard drive, but when I try to open it, I get an error "invalid archive format". Is the file on the cleanmpg server corrupted, or am I doing something wrong? Can someone please verify?

peswe
09-18-2009, 03:06 AM
Nice work, Dan!

I installed my new SG2 a week ago.
I found this nice calibration worksheet, yesterday.
Today it'll be 2nd Fuel fill up and calibration day.
Perfect timing :-)

There's one thing, that I don't understand, though...
What's the point of using my car's trip ODOmeter (which for sure ain't accurate) in the calibration worksheet?

I thought Speed calibration was a "set and forget" thing.
I adjusted the SG2 against my GPS the very first day, so the SG2 should be rather accurate.

/Peter

Dan
09-18-2009, 12:04 PM
Nice work, Dan!

I installed my new SG2 a week ago.
I found this nice calibration worksheet, yesterday.
Today it'll be 2nd Fuel fill up and calibration day.
Perfect timing :-)

There's one thing, that I don't understand, though...
What's the point of using my car's trip ODOmeter (which for sure ain't accurate) in the calibration worksheet?

I thought Speed calibration was a "set and forget" thing.
I adjusted the SG2 against my GPS the very first day, so the SG2 should be rather accurate.

/PeterHey, congrats on the SG. You'll love it.

The point of the worksheet is to calibrate a "known good" distance measurement and a "known good" fuel use measurement against SGII's "speed" (distance really) and SGII's "gallons" (fuel use). With that being said, what you use for your "known goods" is completely up to you.

I like having my SGII synced to my car's FCD simply for consistency and the "gaming" of it all. A purist approach would be to study your car and figure out how far from "actual" your ODO reads and calibrate to that (Trip_ODO + Caluclated_Delta). I know many people who prefer to do it this way.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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peswe
09-18-2009, 12:31 PM
Hey, congrats on the SG. You'll love it.

The point of the worksheet is to calibrate a "known good" distance measurement and a "known good" fuel use measurement against SGII's "speed" (distance really) and SGII's "gallons" (fuel use). With that being said, what you use for your "known goods" is completely up to you.

I like having my SGII synced to my car's FCD simply for consistency and the "gaming" of it all. A purist approach would be to study your car and figure out how far from "actual" your ODO reads and calibrate to that (Trip_ODO + Caluclated_Delta). I know many people who prefer to do it this way.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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You have to excuse me for being slow...

Doesn't that mean that you actually "copy" the inaccuracy from your Car's trip ODO to the SGII, instead of calibrating SGII for Accuracy...???

/Peter

PaleMelanesian
09-18-2009, 12:44 PM
That's what I do. I adjust the SG to match my odo. The main reason is I don't want to have to do conversions all the time. It's close enough, within a couple percent of reality.

The calibration changes slightly as your tires wear down, on the order of 1 or 2 percent.

Dan
09-18-2009, 01:07 PM
You have to excuse me for being slow...

Doesn't that mean that you actually "copy" the inaccuracy from your Car's trip ODO to the SGII, instead of calibrating SGII for Accuracy...???

/PeterWell as my professor used to say, "All measurements are inaccurate, the art of it is to know by how much". So using that model, the calibration allows you to copy whatever inaccuracy you prefer. You can copy the inaccuracy of your ODO, you can copy the inaccuracy of your GPS, or you can copy the inaccuracy of your favorite mapping program. The goal is simply to reduce the level of inaccuracy. My SG is optimistic on distance by > 1%. My car is optimistic on distance by < 1%. Even though my ODO is inaccurate, it is LESS inaccurate. Which source you use is completely up to you.

I use my ODO since that is "fair" (again... Dan=gamer). So If I call out that I got 103 MPG calibrated to my ODO, that is a "fair" claim. If I call it out calibrated to my FCD, that is also "fair", but FCDs are getting pretty close to the line now days.

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goldie
09-20-2009, 08:37 PM
I've tried to download the calibration worksheet without success. I keep getting a mesage that the file is corrupt. Is there a way you can look into it so that it may be downloaded?

Dan
09-20-2009, 08:44 PM
Just tried without error...

Anyone else having problems?

wptski
09-20-2009, 11:16 PM
Just tried without error...

Anyone else having problems?
I just downloaded it with no problem but didn't unzip it.

peswe
09-25-2009, 06:33 PM
Another question:

STEP 1: "Look on your ScanGauge and record your current calibration settings. These are found in the SPEED screen and the FILLUP screen. Remember to put in the plus (+) or minus (-) sign for these numbers."

I guess I'll just read the value from the fillup menu (the value I used for my last tank). Then the adjustment for fillup should be taken from the blue cells in STEP 3, right?

/Peter

terryj
12-09-2009, 10:40 AM
I can download file but it will not unzip. Message received is:

CANNOT OPEN FILE: IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A VALID ARCHIVE.

Any suggestions?
Thanks
Terry

Tomjones76
12-11-2009, 11:51 AM
Normally that'll be a corrupt download.
Delete it, download it again.
If still no joy, suggest defragging / checking disk / opening in a different application, like Openoffice Calc.

KlnAir4U
12-11-2009, 08:37 PM
I have a different but related problem. I have a Hymotion pack and a tank of gas would last me about a year. So, I've been filling up with only 10 litres of gas which lasts me almost a month.

Telling my SG that I just filled up with 10 litres completely desimates my calibration. How do you suggest that I enter a partial "fillup"?

~ Erik



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