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Guess I get to start off this week!

I'm off to a good start but I think that the week is going to be hard on the numbers. I'll be doing a lot of extra driving at odd times for my work this week so there will be lots of extra miles without optimization.

At any rate:

Temp at 66F, no wind, partly cloudy:

1) 47.1mpg for 25.4mi (Home to work)

SG reports 46.4mpg over 336mi (337.2mi ODO) with 8.8g left. The fuel gauge is pointing at just over 3/4 right now, so not too bad. ;)

I did not manage to get those mods done in my car and I'll be getting home late every night this week. I'm not sure how long it will take for me to get the gumption up to start tacking extra wires in!! :eek:

I started the commute from my fiancee's house with everything out of sync, it seemed -- traffic timed wrong, EV mode activated or deactivated when I intended the other, cars behind me during some normally good P&G segments, whatever. It got a little better toward the end, and I finished at 68 MPG, 58F.

83.8mpg this morning.

A coworker helped me push the car into the parking lot - they know my game now. :D

67.2 MPG this morning.

i am at 66.7 now, back at work. the two H's did me in.....highway and headwinds.

An ok trip in to work, traffic, train, tailgaters, blew 3 glides again, not the same ones as last week, managed a 31.3 mpg.

14.3 mi @ 80.4 mpg @ 82 ºF = 138.2 PoE

1) 47.1mpg for 25.4mi (Home to work)Man Sean, Your sitting well over 150% PoE. That's insane!A coworker helped me push the car into the parking lot - they know my game now. :DChuck, Now that's dedication... There is a guy down here that gives me a hard time and keeps threatening to tow me in his hummer. Might take him up on it.i am at 66.7 now, back at work. the two H's did me in.....highway and headwinds.Laurie, Breaking 66.6 in a Prius is like crossing the sonic barrier, don't know why. Certainly looks like an evil number. Turns out 66.6 is the EPA's 2007 unadjusted combined mileage for the Prius II ;). Great Civic piloting.

Second ever 80+ commute! Here's the kicker... that was WITH AC at 79 ºF :D.

Pre-EBH/EV/S1a AC-on commutes were in the high 60's low 70's. This is easily a 10% boost in FE. Got up late this morning and only had time for a 30min soak with the EBH, but I think I was just north of 130 ºF (55 ºC) after S1.

For those tracking my S1a experiments, my warm-up FE (with S1a) was 66 (Pre-EBH/EV/S1a was 45).

In eco-terms, this consumed 150 Wh of electricity with a GHG equivalent of 2 oz gas and saved me 3.65 oz of gas. Netting a reduction in GHG this morning of 1.65 oz gas or 3.92 oz CO2.

Saves money, gas, and GHG. Total win this morning.

Sitting at 2 pips and excel tells me my next fillup (barring any gas baths) should get me my hypermiler star ;). I should know Wed.

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Drove 130 miles to Boston yesterday evening. On the Mass Pike a young woman from New York in an older compact (Corolla?) trailed me for miles, going a steady 51-52 mph as I P&G'd back and forth from 60-50. Kept the tailgaters off my tail, bless her!!! When she finally went by as we approached Boston I wanted to thank her but she eased past, looking straight ahead.

The best part was that until I hit the local streets the Subaru averaged 32.2mpg - WITH a covered 26' rowing shell plus a second boat rack on the roof (IOW, serious aero drag) and normal tire pressures (really must do something about that!). This was really satisfying.

Hi Sean:

___I thought we lost you there for a few days! I see you are right back on track with the Elantra too!

___Jim, Michael and Laurie, all in the mid to upper 60’s in (2) Prius II’s and an HCH I see. That is some competition you all are having!

___Chuck, that 100 mpg segment is just out of reach but you will get it sooner or later ;)

___Ken, any day above the EPA is a good one in my book. Especially knowing what you are driving through!

___Dan, gold star of the day :)

___Lightfoot, we need that sig so we know how you are doing?

___73 - 86 degrees F with 0 - 10 mph side/tail winds. 77.8 per the SG-II into the drive. MFD took 2 ticks up. 5th pip fell off at 535 miles.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/Prius_I_MFD_78_9_mpg_-_575_miles_-_Commute_RT.jpg

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Man Sean, Your sitting well over 150% PoE. That's insane!


It's not enough! It's NOT enough!! ;) Yeah, I'm hooked. :D

Hi Sean:

___I thought we lost you there for a few days! I see you are right back on track with the Elantra too!



Nope -- still here! ;) I didn't drive over the weekend at all -- just parked it on Thursday and it didn't move until this morning. I was on call over the weekend and that pretty much means I'm chained to the house (with high speed network) because my response SLA (Service Level Agreement) is all of 10 minutes. Can't go very far with that kind of timeframe...

I just wish I'd been able to rig the lights to stay on with the ignition off on Friday as I had intended!!

Barely eked out 64mpg on the way in to work today. Laurie you seem to be extending that wonderful segment you had the other day –good job!

I filled up last weekend anyway though I still had a lot of squares left on the gauge. My trip-B overestimated this time and instead of the expected 62mpg, I only got 60+. But still happy about having a fourth consecutive tank over 60. Of course now that "raises expectations" for the rest of the summer...

Well, the EBH is installed and it seems to have made a difference! 74.1 mpg on the way in to work this morning, with temps in the low 60's. Lately seeing 68 - 71 mpg, so I'll see how things work out for the next few days.

Got my first "finger" today on the way home. Someone just had to get there, I guess. I merged into traffic on a secondary road and shortly after that hit a red light. There was a SUV in front of me, so I didn't have a clear sight further ahead. The person behind me honked about a nanosecond after the light changed. When I looked in the mirror, all I saw was a hood and windshield - no headlights! Another honk and a hand waving out their window, but I was behind this SUV. I kind of panicked and started to look for a place to pull over. A place came up, and I pulled over, the driver passed me and ran right up behind the SUV. More honking and excited finger waving, but the SUV didn't pull over. I just followed behind, and then I saw a few school buses ahead, so I knew I wasn't the cause. This went on for about 3 or 4 miles

Kind of upset me for the rest of the trip home. Turned in a 65 mpg return segment.

I guess most of you see this pretty often. Ugh.

72.67mpg (551.5miles, 7.59gal) Mostly DWL at 55 to 65mph on I26 in North Carolina and one trip down to Greenwood, SC on US25 at similar speeds on the rural portions of the drive.

A little better trip home, with a short errand on the way: 75 MPG, 13 miles.

My current tank is up to 59.1mpg partially due to some errands that I had to run after work. It's amazing what a few miles of P&G at the right speeds can do as I was in the range of 58.6mpg before that. Must...find...alternate...commute...

Temps started at ~70F and got to the mid 80's.
1) 61.7-5.8
2) 74.0-9.6
3) 72.1-9.6
4) 98.3-6.3
5) 67.5-8.5
6) 91.0-8.6
Average for today: 74.9 Tank is at 74.8 at 184 miles. I have been accelerating with the FCD showing the mpg as ~50% of the mph and it seems to be doing better this way.

I had the Civic today. I've been having fun breaking it down into segments lately.

5.5 miles at 56.5 mpg (+220 ft)
5.5 miles at 106.5 mpg (-220 ft)
4.5 miles at 41.1 mpg (+280 ft)
4.6 miles at 101.6 mpg (-280 ft)
5.4 miles at 63.1 mpg (+220 ft)
2.5 miles at 68.9 mpg (-110 ft)
4.8 miles at 123.7 mpg (-110 ft)

32.8 miles at 70.6 mpg (total)

None of these elevation changes are that much, but some of the hills are spaced and sloped just right to make for some good pulsing and gliding. For the 100+ segments, they were all done on a stretch that has a slight hill after a stoplight, followed by a long decline perfect for maintaining the speed limit during an FAS. The speed limit in this area varies from 25 to 35 mph.

I'm working on adding P&G in my neighborhood as well. However, it can be a bit frustrating. Specifically, the range on my garage door opener is too low. This caused me to have to stop (during an FAS) in my sloped garage while waiting for the door to open. Next time I'll call my wife in advance to have her open the door for me. :p

Holy cow, I hope I don't get quite as fanatical about my daily commute as you guys, I just want to save a little gas. However...

I did change my route through my neighborhood on the way home to take advantage of the hills. I can glide almost the entire last mile! An additional perk of this route is that about 1/4 mile out I have a clear line of sight to my garage. On a whim the other day, I hit the garage door remote at that point and amazingly, the door began to open! :Banane19: So no worries for me having to slow down waiting for the door to go up.

Put 44 psi in the tires sometime in the middle of the previous tank and have been extra careful ever since. Filled up today...436 miles, 11.324 gallons, 38.50 mpg! :Banane40: I'm getting so close to 40 mpg I can almost smell it!

<queue the deep announcer voice> .... Well, as you may remember last week, SlowHands posted a new PR of 36.2 mpg for 10.5 miles into work, and amidst the cheering and toasts all around commented about how tough that was and didn't think that 40 would be possible... <voice gets deeper> Well, friends... HE DID IT!! 40.0 MPG for 10.5 MILES!!:Banane35::Banane33:

:D heh wonder if it had anything to do with the girls winning in softball tonight 9-4 ... :D

Way to go, Ken!!!! :Banane49:

I did better than I expected to on the way home. It was just late enough that the traffic had died down a little, but not late enough I was forced to put on the headlights -- so I FASed as much as I wanted. :D Saw 52.3mpg briefly on the way...

85F, clear with no wind:

1) 42.9mpg for 6.9mi (Work to bowling/dinner for work group -- nice FAS after entering the lot gained me 0.3mpg. ;))
2) 51.3mpg for 20.8mi (Bowling to home)

Now if I can just maintain that for the rest of the tank. :Banane52:

SG reports 46.6mpg over 364mi (365.5mi ODO) with 8.2g left and the fuel gauge pointing at just under 3/4 tank. I'm still switching it back and forth between 0% and +1% correction on speed. Since it is closer to +0.7% it gains slowly at +1% but loses quickly at 0%.

:woot:

55 mpg for the trip in to work. 74f and a very slight tailwind breeze.
48 for the drive home. HOT and a fricking headwind. Did I mention HOT!!!! I hate summer... :(

Also got fliped off by a (bad words) female in a Corolla today coming home. I laughed at her wagging bird back at her under the dash.

psy

work. massage. groceries. home. 66.9

Hi All:

___Temps from 73 – 81 degrees F and a 5 mph side wind. 71.8 per the SG-II w/ tank at 73.9. MFD lost quite a bit this evening to a weak 78.3 into the lot but with a full SoC.

___Lost the 5th and 6th pips at around 595 and 645 IIRC? I have the actual miles in my logs for the review. I think she will fuel starve either later tomorrow night or early Wednesday morning? Starting to think about taking the Accord and is not a pretty knowing what this Prius I has been offering these past 10 days :ccry:

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I did change my route through my neighborhood on the way home to take advantage of the hills. I can glide almost the entire last mile!

Tonight I improved on this. I found that I could take my foot off the gas sooner (assuming no traffic behind me) and not have to touch it for about 1.1 miles, ending inside my garage. How cool is that? :) The first third of that I did with the engine off too. Speeds during that range from 35 to 20 mph. I don't have the guts yet to stay ICE off the last part, as it's steeper with a few sharp turns.

Dave

I laughed at her wagging bird back at her under the dash.LOL. I'm going to have to remember that stress relieving technique (when my son isn't in the car, that is).

RLC, I'm just amazed what you're able to pull out of that Elantra. I do remember renting one of those 4-5 years ago and getting 30ish mpg under aggressive driving, but still. Very well done.

I'm now correcting for the miles my SG loses during my car's long bus resets. Could still be + or - significantly depending on conditions when I key off, but until I get a kill switch installed I'll have to settle for this method.

AM: 26.3 corrected mpg (23.3 reported). 400' net climb, 54F, 3mph headwind,5 min stop & go.
PM: 44.1 corrected mpg (37.4 reported). 400' net drop, 63F, 9mph headwind. Longest ICE-OFF glide ever: 2.3 miles!
Overall: 32.9 mpg.

I found that I could take my foot off the gas sooner (assuming no traffic behind me) and not have to touch it for about 1.1 miles, ...



I should have mentioned that this was in the Mazda 6. Not sure if I'll be able to do the same in the Legacy, as it dosen't glide quite as well, but I'll find out.

Also noticed that with the previous post I'm now a Member, no longer a Junior :D

Dave

RLC, I'm just amazed what you're able to pull out of that Elantra. I do remember renting one of those 4-5 years ago and getting 30ish mpg under aggressive driving, but still. Very well done.


:o I just take advantage of whatever I can -- the longer trips do afford me a bit more time to pull higher numbers. I think with a shorter commute of the type I do now I wouldn't be able to get up there. I could hit higher with shorter routes if the speeds were low enough, not many stops, and little traffic... I think. Not sure as I haven't had that opportunity yet.

Did you rent the Auto? If so, using the stick can make a sizable difference (as you know, I'm sure!) but I really wish I had something reasonable for final drive ratio. :(

Wayne, maybe you should buy one of those Prius Is ?? It seems to like you. ;)

Today was a "Push it!!" day for me. 68F, clear, no wind:


49.6mpg for 25.7mi (Home to work)


Got stymied on the 2nd to last FAS into the drive again -- would have hit 50 I think if it hadn't been for that!! :mad:

Anyway, the SG reports 46.7mpg over 390mi (391.1mi ODO) with 7.7g left and the fuel gauge showing just a bit under 5/8 tank.

I have GOT to get that headlight issue addressed -- I've been pushing the limits with the blinky lights in the mornings because it is brighter out but I could be FASing for something like 1/4 more of the trip! That should be good for over 52mpg on the way in, I'd think...

67.5 MPG this morning.

Great trip in this morning. 60F, 11.5 miles, 81 MPG. The EV switch is doing its job. (Despite a certain skeptic on PriusChat (http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=34361&hl=) -- who doesn't drive a hybrid -- that insists it can't.)

I pay a little more attention to posts from the Prius drivers here, but I don't want the others to think I'm overlooking you. Especially you non-hybrid folks -- I really respect what you accomplish and some of the gyrations you go through to accomplish it. Sean, Psy, Mike, SlowHands, WriConsult, Dave (keep practicing, you'll save more than a little gas!) and of course Wayne (when he's not hijacking a Prius) ... I'm not sure I'd have the patience for the non-hybrid techniques described here. The Prius makes it so easy.

And awesome work, you other hybrid drivers: Laurie and Tarabell (Girls rock!), Bob, Mr. Kite, Chuck, Lightfoot, Basjoos.

Proud to be hanging with all of you!

(Totally off-topic, but on the subject of girls rocking, especially for Laurie: How 'bout that filly at Belmont?!)

89.7mpg this morning. :)

My belly pan was drooping, so I trimmed it off last night and had a great ride in this morning. Segments of 41/43/53 MPG for 48 MPG over 15.4 miles at 68°F. The last gallon or two is up to around 42.6 MPG.

I spent the last week supporting some bicycle rides with my dad...he's a retired GM development engineer and probably knows way more than I about hypermiling and gas saving mods, but is more interested in competitive (aggressive) driving and GPS navigation -- racing from point A to B, but farting around with the laptop for a half-hour with the engine idling while parked. On one leg of a trip, he had to follow me in his van and got pissed off when I didn't maintain a constant speed through hilly country, so I lent the Scangauge to another hypermiler who was helping support us and just settled for DWB. I was in my wife's car, so I didn't care too much.

C'est la vie.

:D Well to back up last night's PR of 40.0 mpg into work, I pushed out a 40.9 mpg for the way home - who woulda thunk I'd ever pull back to back 40's in a truck that we normally got 19-21 in? I sure didn't, but I have a feeling Wayne did :) The way in this morning, cool, moderate traffic, got a 33.1 mpg for 10.5 miles. Thanks JimboK for the recognition, I am jealous more and more of you Prii drivers... Sean, keep it up, nice numbers, and thanks for the bananas :D
Tank is at 32.4 for 133 miles, just now nudging off the full mark. Shows 565 to go... hmmm... 600 mile tank probably easy, 700 tank possible??!!
DiamondLarry can probably confirm this, but I think the groove for this Ranger's engine is 1500-2200 max 2400, based on the spec that peak torque is at 2400 rpm. Also, seems like my big morning hill gets the best instant mpg of about 20-23 at steady 35 ish in 5th gear, as 4th gives about 16-18.

Great trip in this morning. 60F, 11.5 miles, 81 MPG. The EV switch is doing its job. (Despite a certain skeptic on PriusChat (http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=34361&hl=) -- who doesn't drive a hybrid -- that insists it can't.)


(Totally off-topic, but on the subject of girls rocking, especially for Laurie: How 'bout that filly at Belmont?!)

pretty darn awesome. not been done in what, about 100 years? it was the talk of the mare owners at the barn :)....meanwhile, my gelding just kept eating hay, knowing that he's far to lazy to run that fast or that far.....unless maybe he was drafting a hay wagon......:D

After several days with the car in the shop, I'm back. Got all the fluids changed, fixed the AC blower (summer in TX!), spark plugs, cap/rotor, etc... 150,000 miles.

This morning was 49.5. New tank to remove the repairman from my numbers.

First round trip commute with the EV and EBH scored me an 80 mpg :woot:

So an 80.4 to work on Monday and and 80.3 on the way home.

I should have some 85's in her, but with the mornings temps in the mid 80's and the afternoons temps in the mid 90's, AC has become required. So I'll have to wait till mid Fall before the temperatures usually drop in Houston.

The perfect commute did have a kink though. The round-trip was over when I hit my drive way, but as soon as I got there I had to pull right back out and keep going. I'd forgot that my family was at the pool so I had to go meet them there. Then I had some other errands to run Monday evening. By the end of the day, my numbers had fallen to 77.6.

So on to Tuesday.

14.3 mi @ 78.6 mpg @ 84 ºF = 131% PoE

70 minute soak on the EBH leaving S1 with a block temp of 136 ºF (58 ºC). Got shut out on one light, and failed 2 glides (still need to retrain on use of EV). Now here is the absolutely insane part of the commute. Using S1a warm-up on the Prius, I got a warm-up segment of 1.9 mi @ 82 mpg. Keep in mind this includes letting the car idle in Park for 60 seconds! Maybe SGII lost it's mind or something, but that's what it reported.

I'm becoming a fan of S1a. For those 54 seconds I think it turns the Prius into a serialized hybrid. I'll have some numbers to compare against next week when I do rolling S1 transitions.

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Hi Sean:

___I can almost smell 50 ;)

___Jim, another 80 in the bank! Keep stringing those things together and it will be close to a 1,000 mile tank ;)

___Chuck, another gun to the knife fight I see :rolleyes:

___Bruce, you have some ways to recover now but I highly recommend having your dad drive his own vehicle when you are visiting ;)

___Ken, those are excellent numbers! The 03 shows her best stuff between 1,500 and 2,250 whereas the 96 probably needs a bit more from the top to see her best. If I had the time, I should have taken you for a ride in the 03. A world of difference and I know an easy 50 + in your hands!

___Andrew. Welcome back! You and Psy have a battle royale on your hands, don’t you :D

___Dan, I cannot wait to read your results. The Prius I after her first FAS was at 88.x this morning with an 81.x 4 miles out. But I have a key! Keep us informed as I will eventually get to drive an NHW20 and am going to need all the help I can get :(

___Temps from 73 - 84 degrees F with a 5 - 15 mph head/side wind. SG-II reported 86.8 to the Interstate, 75.6 all the way home and 74.6 over the tank. MFD is showing a wee bit higher.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/Prius_I_MFD_769_miles_-_78_8_mpg_-_Commute_RT.jpg

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I pay a little more attention to posts from the Prius drivers here, but I don't want the others to think I'm overlooking you. Especially you non-hybrid folks -- I really respect what you accomplish and some of the gyrations you go through to accomplish it. Sean, Psy, Mike, SlowHands, WriConsult, Dave (keep practicing, you'll save more than a little gas!) and of course Wayne (when he's not hijacking a Prius) ... I'm not sure I'd have the patience for the non-hybrid techniques described here. The Prius makes it so easy.


Ditto that. Given that only ~2% of all cars on the road are hybrids, your efforts to smash the EPA are much more relevant to the everyday driver. My 75 in the Prius will elicit a "sure, but I can't afford a hybrid". Well what about 45 in a (insert here)? What's your excuse now, huh?" :)

110 to work. Tank keeps falling, and is now down to 77.1. My run at an 80 tank will continue, but may not happen until the fall. Man, it is HOT down here :).

Also, I know I have a 130+ in me to work, but the hypermiling gods are as they always are. Once I get a good idea, they say "let's make you earn it. TWO WEEKS!". Then I'll have my 130+.

Edit: And yes, no fan at all to work in the a.m. I'm still sweating at 80F. That's the low. ;)

I'm becoming a fan of S1a. For those 54 seconds I think it turns the Prius into a serialized hybrid. I'll have some numbers to compare against next week when I do rolling S1 transitions.
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Dan, can't wait to see your numbers. I plan on trying this out for the first time tomorrow. I'm not optimistic, as I don't like the thought of letting 'er sit and run. But I am tired of "cannibalizing SOC", so that will be a nice change of pace.

I take my "can not switch to EV mode" alert very, very, very personally :)

I'm becoming a fan of S1a. For those 54 seconds I think it turns the Prius into a serialized hybrid. I'll have some numbers to compare against next week when I do rolling S1 transitions.

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I will be trying this tonight on my outgoing segment that's been around 100-110 recently. Something just seems wasteful about letting it idle for a minute like that but your segments certainly suggest that it is a net gain.

Tonight I used the scangauge on my homeward segment in the work truck I'm using to meet drillers far away tomorrow morning. 4.2 v6 F150 with about 800 #'s of equipment and supplies under the topper in back, AC on (yeah I'm a wuss), 40 mph avg, mix of city and country roads. 21.6 MPG (US EPA 16-21). Doesn't that make you guys feeling disappointed about not hitting say 50 mpg feel better?

I had a new personal best on one of the legs of my morning commute. It was on the 9.6 mile trip from the wife's work to my work; 82.5:woot: Also, my "Today" mileage never reset since I parked the car last night at 8:55 pm and started out again at 4:55 am. But I do have a pretty nice average of 76.4 over 104 miles. Yesterday's average was 74.9 for 42.1 miles.
1) 61.9-5.8 miles
2) 82.5-9.6 New PR!
3) 68.5-9.6
4) 93.8-6.3
5) 58.7-5.1 WTF?
6) 122-5.1
7) 67.2-5.1
8) 60.8-2.4
9) 136-6.9
Tank is at 239.8 miles at 75.7 mpg and I still have all of my pips.

I've started using the lap function of the SuperMId to record each drive. The morning drive to work at 4AM from near the South Carolina line up the mountain into North Carolina and taking US25 and I-26 to Weaverville, NC, a distance of 52miles at a temp of 55F and an average speed of 60mph got me 68.8mpg. The return trip at 6PM at 75F and 65mph was at 83.4mpg, for a round trip average of 76.1mpg over 104miles. I mostly DWL where traffic allowed.

Brought the tank up to 59.6mpg as of this afternoon, and rolled over 150mi for the tank. I've been running in a mostly DWL mode with a target of 1500RPM on the highway with some necessary excursions into the low-mid 2,000RPM range for hills and to merge onto the stinkin' highway. Unfortunately the on-ramp is up hill in both directions, which is a bit of a bummer. But we have reeeeaaalllyyyy long merging lanes so I can usually take my sweet time getting up to speed when there's nobody behind me.

The big bonus this week has been learning to milk warp-stealth on the gentle rolling hills in order to avoid that "loafing" ICE mode that Hobbit describes. I think the next step is to turn it into a bonafide HS P&G routine rather than DWL with occasional warp-stealth. The hard part is just feathering the pedal to keep current draw at the absolute minimum but it's getting a little better.

I'm starting to feel like a bonafide amateur given the numbers some of you guys are pulling. ;) Eventually my Daily Grind posts are going to be along the lines of "I got in my car and it moved so I threw a party. Yay!"

Cooler weather with rain all day for me.

5.5 miles @ 51.8 mpg
3.1 miles @ 54.4 mpg
3.2 miles @ 47.4 mpg
2.5 miles @ 58.2 mpg
4.9 miles @ 75.6 mpg

19.2 miles @ 56.7 mpg (total)

Where is everyone getting their elevations from? I can find numbers for a zip code but are they available down the the street or even the exact address?

Where is everyone getting their elevations from? I can find numbers for a zip code but are they available down the the street or even the exact address?
I got mine from my navigation in my Civic. For that vehicle, it's as simple as touching the the circle in the middle that represents the current location. I haven't been able to find that information on the Toyota's navi. Also, there are programs that can give you the topography of your route, but I don't know much about these.

Where is everyone getting their elevations from? I can find numbers for a zip code but are they available down the the street or even the exact address?

If you know how to read a topographical map you can read it off of a USGS topo at www.terraserver-usa.com.

To work 52 mpg. 73f, some rain
To home 48 mpg. 83f, some rain

psy

Where is everyone getting their elevations from? I can find numbers for a zip code but are they available down the the street or even the exact address?

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/

OK, I tried the S1a warmup idle and I have to say I'm not convinced. :confused:

97.4 / 11.5 miles / 82F (EBH+S1a)

In these near-perfect conditions that should've been near 110, even with the atrocious downtown traffic I faced today. At a stoplight before the downtown mess I was at 102, I've been as high as 116 there and usually around 105-110.

I think the difference is that in S1 I really go easy on everything, and avoid drawing unnecessarily off the pack. There's even a deadband spot in there. Basically I'll DWL and hold around 10MPH as things warm up. The IMPG starts at 10-12, creeps up to 17 or so as S1 progresses, and then jumps to 25-30 and I'm in S2. All while not losing SOC.

I can see how S1a has a benefit vs "normal" driving/acceleration in S1 (which may take off 1-3 bars of SOC) but I think I'm sticking with my method of warmup. ;)

I did make up for it with a record segment on the way back, in which I hit every light except for one (so I could go to S4 :cool:).

80.4 / 11.5 miles / 72F (segment PR by 2.7 MPG)

Today's average was 88.0 / 23.0 miles.

The tank is +1.1 to 72.5 / 296 miles / 7 pips.

work. ride horse. home. 65.8

i am torn between filling up and seeing if i can break my record fill, which was 65.18....OR, trying for a 700 mile tank. i am at 355 miles and have more than half a tank left........decisions, decisions. :)

13.2 mi @ 75.4 @ 93 ºF = 128% PoE

Drive home was fine. Had to take an alternate route to run some errands. Warm-up out of the garage was 52 mpg. Chased two lights hard and got totally shut out. But with all the mods a bad day of 75 is a-OK with me.

A few ramblings about S1a. I too hate the thought of leaving a Prius idling for 60 seconds, but here are some things that bring me comfort.


The Prius will spin the ICE for 60 seconds wether your rolling or in park.
If your rolling the ICE power is not used to move the car, pack power is.
If your in park, the ICE power is used and sent to the pack
So your gonna chew charge getting going whether you do it in EV or in S1. And the ICE is gonna run in S1 whether your moving or not. Difference is in Park, you actually get to harness some of the energy the ICE produces.

Neat bit on EV. In the mist of a full blown glide failure, I find myself in EV panic. For me this is the incessant punching of the EV with continual chimes of EV refusal. After a bit of this I find myself wondering if I'm in EV or not. So I devised a test. Switch to the consumption screen and hit the EV. If the screen switches to power, your now in EV, if nothing happens (no refusal chime either) then you were in EV, and have just turned it off.

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I had a new personal best on one of the legs of my morning commute. It was on the 9.6 mile trip from the wife's work to my work; 82.5:woot:
...
9) 136-6.9
Tank is at 239.8 miles at 75.7 mpg and I still have all of my pips.

:eek: What is with you and nearly tripling my segments?? AWESOME JOB!!!!

Ken, you are knocking out some killer stretches these days! Congrats on both that and the girls' victories!

I'm embarrassed to post my numbers for traveling home. :ccry:

Temp at 80F, clear and dark, no wind:


46.6mpg for 26.1mi (Work to home)


No light equals (almost) no FASing. :p

SG reports still at 46.7mpg over 416mi (417.0mi ODO) with 7.1g left and the fuel gauge pointing at 9/16 tank. The gallons estimate looks a bit low for the position, but I did tell it 16g instead of my estimated 17g capacity.

Doggone those headlights anyway!!

Hi Sean:

___Those Prius and HCH owners suck, don’t they :angel: I am pretty sure your next car will probably have an EPA above 50 the next time around too! Darn those hybrid drivers embarrassing us non-hybrid drivers into submission ;)

___68 - 81 degrees F with little wind. SG-II current showed 73.5, tank at 74.0 and MFD at 78.9 after 865 miles. Lost pip #9 at 845 miles. Depending on when that last pip starts flashing, this thing might actually touch 1,000 miles? Not bad for a Prius-I? I have 2.00 gallons of fuel in a sealed plastic container inside a sealed plastic bag so when she decides she has had enough of this non-sense, I will be ready to feed her some E10 based RFG for the trip to the gas station.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

AM: 26.4/28.6 indicated/corrected mpg, 51F, no wind, 400' climb, minimal traffic.
PM: 34.8/41.9 indicated/corrected mpg. 75F, 5mph side wind, 400' drop, no traffic. Traffic light interrupted what could have been a repeat of yesterday's record glide. By the way I should have said that 2.3 miles was a record non-highway glide. I've definitely had longer glides on the freeways around town.
Overall: 34.0 mpg.

330+ miles on the clock, getting below 1/8 tank but no low fuel light yet. To get 30+ mpg on this tank I think I'll need to be showing 350 miles before the light comes on. Oh boy, it's sooooo close. Will have to refill by the end of the week, so I'll know soon.

Here's a scary thing :eek:
The 6 has a large gas tank, 18 gallons no less.
Previously (before I attempted this hypermiling thing) I've let the low fuel light come on once or twice, and if I recall correctly I had a little over 500 miles on the tank. My best mpg has been just a hair over 32.
Today the trip meter hit 400 miles and the fuel pointer was still touching the half full mark.
I am so tempted to fill up to see what I've really got going, but I'm gonna try and hold out at least till I get down to 3/4. I can go for max miles on a tank another time.;)

Oh yeah, I was just getting into my glide into the neighborhood tonight when I saw the flashing lights up ahead. Did I mention I have to cross train tracks about a mile from the house? I don't get stuck very often, but did tonight. The good thing is that the tracks are at a low spot, and so you can stop above them on either side and get a nice start when the gate goes back up. Still, no gliding up the other side this time...

Dave

work to meet Tom and then home was about a 29.7, that while having the AC on and NICE-on coasting, timed the lights as best as i could, and only hit 1 light where I shut down. On way back in tonight to work, took KennyRoute2 (via 290), tried P&G NICE-on 50-55 to somewhat run with traffic, and then remainder on 83 yielded a 32.4 mpg for 11.6 miles. First time I've taken this route in over a month.

Bruce, you have some ways to recover now but I highly recommend having your dad drive his own vehicle when you are visiting ;)

Did that. :D The only time I drove was when we needed a separate car, and at that point I was driving my wife's car, which I don't have mileage stats for anyway. Otherwise, we rode in his van. Most of the time we needed it to haul stuff and riders anyway, but there was at least one day we used it as a two-passenger vehicle for recon; my car would've used less gas regardless of who was driving, although the FE in my stats would've taken a hit and it was easier to just let him drive his own vehicle.

I plugged in SG into his van, but he has an iFCD/aFCD already and uses it for the temperature/compass function, so the SG mostly served as a tachometer.

Segments of 39/41/52 MPG this morning for 46.1 MPG over 15.4 miles at 57°F in light drizzle. This chunk of the tank is up to 43 MPG.

I have an appointment after work on a road with heavy traffic, so I'm only expecting high 30s on the way home.

68.4 MPG this morning.

88.1mpg in the am - a shot at the 1st 80mpg tank other than vacation trips.

A few ramblings about S1a....

It occurs to me that the electrical side of S1 behavior seems similar, maybe identical, to EV mode. So lately I've tried the same approach to driving as I do during EV mode: If I can move slowly or otherwise not put a big draw on the battery (as Locutus describes), I'll move. If I can't (like when I start from my landlady's steep uphill driveway), I'll wait until the ICE shuts down. With a preheated block, it's probably only about 30 seconds or so.

Thoughts?

... After a bit of this I find myself wondering if I'm in EV or not....

My Can-view tells me. ;)

A good ride today on the cross town commute: 68F, 24 miles, 81 MPG. That's the first time I've crossed the 80MPG threshold on a weekday.

50.2 home last night with some errands on the way
55.5 this morning.

could not get my rhythm this morning. i was "drafting" a guy in a buick who was about 5 seconds ahead going between 55 and 60, so i figured i was justified in just hanging behind him and going the same speed, but he wasn't consistent enough to P&G. after he turned off semi came up behind me, and then backed off and followed me a while, which didn't help.

when i first got on the highway, someone honked and waved....seemed like a friendly wave, they used their entire hand, not just one digit....but i didn't recognize the car, so who knows?

ended up at 65.1.

Didn't manage nearly as high as I had hoped...

Got paged as I was trying to leave the house, got delayed 30min, and had terrible traffic to deal with on a different route to a different building. :mad:

Temp 68F, 5mph headwind, slightly overcast:


47.7mpg for 24.2mi (Home to work)


SG reports 46.8mpg over 440mi (441.1mi ODO) with 6.6g left and the fuel gauge at just barely south (half needle width) of the middle of the half way mark.

Hopefully I'll do better this evening but it looks to be another late one. :(

It occurs to me that the electrical side of S1 behavior seems similar, maybe identical, to EV mode. So lately I've tried the same approach to driving as I do during EV mode: If I can move slowly or otherwise not put a big draw on the battery (as Locutus describes), I'll move. If I can't (like when I start from my landlady's steep uphill driveway), I'll wait until the ICE shuts down. With a preheated block, it's probably only about 30 seconds or so.

Thoughts?


This seems like a good compromise to me. Needing to get up to speed quickly is something best handled by S2+ (when the ICE decides to join the effort ;)) otherwise you'll just run a bunch of battery charge off and get shortchanged on your glides later recharging it... so just get through S1 while still stopped (and yeah, with EBH I noticed this was well under the 57 seconds it's supposed to take). If you don't need to get up to speed then you can "limp" through S1 while getting low (but not zero) MPG and not running off charge.

Had a great start this morning and smashed all my benchmarks up to the halfway point in my commute. But, no cigar. Saw 70.4mpg at the high point and finished at 68.5. Yesterday's commute ended up at 67mpg.

14.3 mi @ 75.6 mpg @ 85 ºF

Bob, That EBH seems to really be landing you some good segments 74.1 is about 150% PoE. Nice!

Tim, I hear ya' on the need for a route finder. Three R's of Hypermiling are probably Route-Route-Route. For what it's worth killing climate control when your about to attempt a stealth-warp seems to help. Anything to reduce load. I also find it much easier to hit with 6 bars than with 5.

Kite, Those garage door woes got me thinking... A phone operated garage door! Let's get it added to the CleanMPG shop ;)

Sean, 51.3 ?!?!? over 175% PoE. That's like breaking 100 in a Prius. Great Job.

Wayne, I'm with Sean, sounds like the Prius wants to stay awhile. Any adoption papers in the works? A thousand mile commuter tank... now that's just sick ;)

Jim, Tried to set the PC skeptics strait. Just my opinion, but it seems kinda hostile over there as of late.

Ken, great job on the 40.9 PR. You guys are putting us Prius Drivers to shame.

Locutus, Thanks for the test. I was gonna run all week before I flipped over, but now you've got me second guessing. I've never been able to get much deadband out of S1 and always end up eating a bar. I'll see what I can pull next week when I'm pulling rolling S1 transitions. I should also have a larger test sample so if S1a leaves more SoC in the pack, it's possible that this might show up in my return segments.

As for Dan, Lots of road rage out today. There is a bunch of construction going on through my route. Doesn't bother me, cuz they drop the speed limit down to 30 on my whole route. Well going 30 through a construction zone is enough to absolutely freak those road-ragers out. Feel sorry for those poor guys doing the construction having to deal with guys clipping by at 50 mph talking on their cell, and in a generally unpleasant mood. Missed a few lights, and had to burn a lot of AC. The ragers always unsettle me a bit as well.

Also wanted to mention a neat Google maps addition. Now you can tell GMaps which route to take. It's done through adding multiple destinations (turning points). Shows you the miles on each leg so I can just concentrate on MPG not miles. I'll try to add another thread on it later.

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Had a great start this morning and smashed all my benchmarks up to the halfway point in my commute. But, no cigar. Saw 70.4mpg at the high point and finished at 68.5. Yesterday's commute ended up at 67mpg.

Sounds pretty good anyway! Summer is around the corner!

I took my car to the dealer and they knocked down my current tank from 55.5 to 54.5 :( And that's with 250 miles or so on it. What were they doing with it?

So anyway I've almost got it back up to 55 again :)

About 345 miles on the counter now and still no Low Fuel warning. That's a record, but I'm not sure that tells me anything because I didn't drain the last 2 tanks down that far.

Drove the full 12 miles in today, and took ICE-off P&Ging to a new level on lightly rolling terrain. Pulsed up to 40mph on slight inclines, did engine off glides for 1/4-1/2 mile or so the other side before restarting. Worked well with the light timing on this road. Doing everything I can to keep the mpg up through the end of the tank, killing the engine anytime I think it will help just a little, even if it does throw the SGII way out of whack.

For what it's worth: 26.7/33.5 indicated/corrected mpg over 9.7/11.9 indicated/actual miles. No net elevation change, 61F, 8mph headwind, 3-4 min stop & go traffic.

EDIT: wow, what an effort Wayne! 945 miles on a tank is insane. At this point I think I might be able to get just shy of half that distance from my current tank. :rolleyes: And I'm definitely not going to find out!

Hi All:

___75 - 84 degrees F with a 5 - 10 mph headwind. 91.1 when I hit the Interstate. Boy did I need a tail wind today too :( It is funny what a low fuel - last ditch effort segment with a final blinking pip (Prius lingo) will do to focus your attention to the task at hand. I pulled all the tools out of the toolbox and threw them all at her for this drive! She started out the day at 873.5 miles and 78.8 per the MFD.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/Prius_I_MFD_880_miles_-_79_0_mpg_-_pegged_5-minute_bars.jpg
5-minute bars pegged - She can play with the Prius-II’s too ;)

___A 15 mile stop and crawl from I-290 to a few miles beyond the Touhy toll plaza on I-294 (Chicago’s Tri-State tollway) and again, she took off. Although the 3.5 hour commute was a nightmare, at least Prius and FEH drivers have the proper tools to deal with the insanity while laughing all the way past the pumps :)

___She fuel starved well short of my “un-realistic” goal but what a ride to say the least.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/Prius_I_MFD_947_miles_-_79_3_mpg_-_Fuel_Starve_Point.jpg

___Final tally, 947.3 miles at 79.3 mpg per the MFD. About 4 mpg optimistic. Fueled up 16.5 miles later at 963.8 miles on 12.821 gallons (2.00 gallons from the gas can + 10.821 at the station) for a decent 75.17 mpg. I gave her the two gallon drink at the Fuel starve point to get her home …

___Boy, put someone behind the wheel of one of these little beauties with an all-country or heavy traffic-Interstate and the sky is the fricken limit :D I am almost relieved that this tank is over as driving a vehicle down to fuel starve in extremely heavy traffic is a business nobody can possibly relish :rolleyes: My hands are still shaking from today’s effort in that monster I call “My Daily Grind”.

___Here is what a Prius-I looks like when hitting her Fuel Starve limit. The 2 gallon gas can fillup brought a really cool message saying “Problem has been fixed” or some other such nonchalant saying just before the Warning Splash Screen disappears into the ether and the MFD returns front and center.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/Prius_I_MFD_947_3_miles_-_79_3_mpg_-_Fuel_Starve_Warnings.jpg

___Good Luck

___Wayne

This seems like a good compromise to me. Needing to get up to speed quickly is something best handled by S2+ (when the ICE decides to join the effort ;)) otherwise you'll just run a bunch of battery charge off and get shortchanged on your glides later recharging it... so just get through S1 while still stopped (and yeah, with EBH I noticed this was well under the 57 seconds it's supposed to take). If you don't need to get up to speed then you can "limp" through S1 while getting low (but not zero) MPG and not running off charge.


Dan's stage1a is a no go for me too, according to SGII. It's become clear that unless I begin with something similar to Jim's landlady's steep climb, it's better to simply head out and do a NICE-on, S1 "limp", or some combination. I've been doing the opposite extreme of Dan's stage1a......tearing through S1 and eating up SOC. I think I've settled on a nice NICE-on / limp combo. Warmup mileage will be sacrificed, but opportunities to recoup are always present.

Tank at 75.8 / ~250 miles.

Well, maybe there is a God. Had a difficult day at work and when I walked out to the parking lot, I was just exhausted. I was thinking "I'm not going to hypermile" - I'd just drive home and run the A/C. So headed out and picked up the interstate, but hadn't turned on the A/C yet. I merged into traffic and found there was this tow truck in front of me. After a few minutes I realized he was only going 55 in a 60 mph zone. I just followed the tow truck (NO DRAFTING!!) and then I realized HE was following another tow truck in front of him. Followed the tow trucks all the way to my exit, watching the trip mpg climb the whole way.

Another slow moving work vehicle held up traffic on the secondary road to my neighborhood. I don't know how it happened, but turned in a 74 mpg segment this afternoon. :woot:

Thanks,

Bob

Thats some great driving xcel.... :)

psy

81 MPG on the trip home. Woohoo! Let's see, for the day ... it was 81 MPG in the morning ... and 81 MPG in the evening ... 23 miles each way ... that's, uh ... oh, I got it -- 81 MPG! Woohoo again!

Tank's sitting at 77.3 per the MFD, 140 miles. Actually, that's not 100% accurate because I mistakenly reset the MFD (again!!!) about 35 miles into the tank. That first 35 miles was in the upper 70s too, so it's close MPG-wise.

Of course when I think I'm doing pretty good I look at some of the rest of you. Like Wayne with 75+ in an NHW11, for cryin' out loud! ;)

Wayne, WOW! If you ever get a Prius II, I'm dead meat along with everyone else too.:eek: Nice driving.

The temp started at ~65F and the weatherbug say's that it got to a high of 89F. I had a stiff crosswind which turned into full-on headwind then back into tailwind. Unfortunately the tailwind didn't last as long as the rest of the other stuff did. I set another PR for my second leg to my work this morning; 84.5 mpg.:woot:
1) 61.0-5.8 miles
2) 84.5-9.6
3) 66.8-11.5
4) 81.7-7.6
5) 67.8-9.0
6) 91.7-4.9
7) 90.4-5.8
Average for today: 74.8 Tank is at 75.4 at 293.8 miles according to the FCD. I lost the first pip at ~250 miles and the second one dropped off somewhere around segment 5 or 6.

The same drive as yesterday at the same temps and speeds. The only difference is that I drove "normally" (i.e. constant speed) instead of DWL like I did yesterday. Like I did yesterday, I also took the gravity ride ICE-off on any downhills steep enough to maintain speed on. The resulting mileage was down about 3mpg from yesterday, the morning drive was 65.4mpg, the evening drive was 80.8mpg so DWL does help improve my mileage.

To work 52 mpg, 72f no wind.
To home 46 mpg, 83f cross wind.

psy

Hi Sean:

___Those Prius and HCH owners suck, don’t they :angel: I am pretty sure your next car will probably have an EPA above 50 the next time around too! Darn those hybrid drivers embarrassing us non-hybrid drivers into submission ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne


I have nothing to be embarrassed about. My non-hybrid gets hybrid level mileage at normal highway speeds, although a hybrid would probably beat my mileage in stop-and-go traffic or in a 20mph crawl (although by using my hand throttle I have lately been able to maintain 120mpg at 30mph in 5th gear on a level road).

Another day in the Civic for me. The weather was pretty good.

5.4 miles @ 59.8 mpg (+220 ft.)
12.9 miles @ 73.9 mpg (-120 ft.)
13.2 miles @ 75.9 mpg (+120 ft.)
5.4 miles @ 88.4 mpg (-220 ft)

36.9 miles @ 73.8 mpg (total)

Lots of FASing. My commute between home and work, the 1st and last in the list, has 11 stoplights. I try to time as many of those as possible. Today's drives brought the tank back over 60. Early on, I had it around 67, but my wife drove it over 100 miles and gave it back to me in the mid 50s.:(

I just got a ScanGauge delivered today, so I'll now be able to track segments like this in the Highlander. I may try to keep the Highlander for a whole tank pretty soon. Those Toyota hybrids are a whole new game. I still have lots to learn.

My first 150 mpg displayed on SGII for 8.6 miles, at 916 ft elevation change at the low point of a segment.
Two roundtrips today:
65.1 @ 4.2 mi (-315' drop)
33.5 @ 4.6 mi (+315 climb)
83.1 @ 11.55 mi (-728 drop)
34.6 @ 11.55 mi (+728 climb)
For the day, 47.2 @ 31.5 mi. Best day so far with start and end at home.
My first 0.3 mi has a 120' drop but ends at a stop sign. Can't see oncoming traffic without stopping :(
I need one of those MC Escher routes so I can go downhill all the time.
--Walter

Hi All:

___Temps from 74 - 81 degrees F and a 0 - 10 mph tail/side wind. MFD shows 80.3 into the lot. SG-II, 76.8. Just 3 more drives and she leaves me … And I cannot stop hypermiling her. I think I am addicted ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Wayne,

My Insight this evening was exactly only 0.7mpg better. :o

34.5/36.0 indicated/corrected mpg on tonight's 14.6 mile drive home.

Something weird happened today. I noticed late in this morning's drive, and again when I started the car this evenng, that my starter was cranking slowly. With the engine off at the first stoplight tonight, I switched one of the SGII gauges to Voltage and watched it drop steadily from 12.0, passing just below 11.0 before I got scared and (just barely) restarted. As a result I didn't ICE-OFF the rest of the way home except when already stopped at lights, and then turned it all the way to the ACC position to save juice.

Seems to me there are two possible causes:

My battery is starting to go. It's older than the 3 1/2 years I've owned the car, so distinctly possible. Also, voltage won't quite go back up to 14.4 or whatever it's supposed to, topping out at 13.8-13.9. That also makes me suspect the battery.
Lots of ICE-OFF gliding -- especially the unusual amount this morning (probably spent almost as much time with the engine off as on this time) -- could be gradually draining the battery. I'm driving with the lights and A/C off, but the radio on and fan usually on II, so this seems possible. Anyone else had anything like this happen and have it turn out to be caused by lots of ICE-OFF?


Despite no ICE-OFF gliding tonight, I'm up to 358 miles and still no Low Fuel warning. Hoooo Boy.

Trip downtown earlier today was pretty good, 32.5 mpg, way back was disgusting, traffic backed up immediately and I was actually doing 29+ in traffic, but decided to take my usual alternate of Roosevelt Road via Laramie from the Ike, but I it was an absolute parking lot. I have never seen it like this, and watched in horror as my avg just kept falling falling falling falling down to under 20 mpg... but was able to get back to 25.2. Way home was decent, 35.2 I think.
Oh darn, on the way in to work tonight, I set a new PR again...:woot:
:Banane27: 42.5 MPG for 10.5 miles :Banane27: beating the 40.0 of Monday night for the trip in, and nearly matching the 42.8 for trip home PR from last week. Addicted? Yeah....:cool:

Oh man, you are going to catch up to Wayne and the accord if you keep going like you are going. We will have to start sending reporters over to your house :)

Hi Sean:

___Those Prius and HCH owners suck, don’t they :angel: I am pretty sure your next car will probably have an EPA above 50 the next time around too! Darn those hybrid drivers embarrassing us non-hybrid drivers into submission ;)



:) That Prius sure is responding in your hands and I'd love to have a crack at one myself. I certainly plan to get myself a hybrid for the next vehicle if at all possible, but that is probably a good ways out. Maybe that mythical LION Prius will be out by then? :D

Trip downtown earlier today was pretty good, 32.5 mpg, way back was disgusting, traffic backed up immediately and I was actually doing 29+ in traffic, but decided to take my usual alternate of Roosevelt Road via Laramie from the Ike, but I it was an absolute parking lot. I have never seen it like this, and watched in horror as my avg just kept falling falling falling falling down to under 20 mpg... but was able to get back to 25.2. Way home was decent, 35.2 I think.
Oh darn, on the way in to work tonight, I set a new PR again...:woot:
:Banane27: 42.5 MPG for 10.5 miles :Banane27: beating the 40.0 of Monday night for the trip in, and nearly matching the 42.8 for trip home PR from last week. Addicted? Yeah....:cool:

SOLID!!! :Banane53:

I know what you mean about the bad traffic... The stuff around here is just getting to be unbearable. I can't understand how it got this bad in the space of one month! I looked for construction but I wasn't able to find anything at all that would cause the kind of increase I'm seeing.

Yesterday was brutal for the numbers. I had to travel between buildings at a bad time of day on routes with lots of hills and plenty of traffic.

Temp at 84F, sunny, no wind,
Then temp at 79F, clear, no wind but DARK because it was 11PM :(,
Then this morning it was 66F, sunny, no wind:


35.1mpg for 6.1mi (Work to other work building :eek: -- What is this?? A Hummer?!)
45.7mpg for 26.2mi (Work to home in the dark)
48.6mpg for 24.3mi (Home to other work building -- new route)


The route I took in this morning was pretty good. I don't often have to come to this building from home but I'll remember this -- the last several miles are on low speed, hypermiler friendly roads that are pretty deserted early in the morning. It was also light enough out that I was safe turning off the headlights there, though I had enough miles already to make it difficult to lift the tank. It was good for about 2mpg, though.

SG reports I've slipped to 46.6mpg over 497mi (497.7mi ODO) with 5.4g left and the fuel gauge indicating 3/8 tank left. Frankly I'm surprised it isn't worse given the numbers I'm seeing for trips this week. :(

It will be interesting to see how close I am with the gallons this time...

Next week should be a *lot* better.

64.1 MPG home yesterday. Last night I had to drive across town with two passengers, and then did some short trips, and back home. I finished up the day around 60 MPG. On the way home last night I had quite a few interrupted glides. :mad:

66.2 MPG this morning.

73 MPG this morning on the short commute, 11.4 miles. I never got to S4, so on low-speed glides I used the EV button. Still trying to get into a rhythm with that. Several times today I missed my cue turning it off or on, either letting the ICE run when it didn't have to or starting a pulse with EV mode on. (That really pulls the battery down, BTW. Duhh!)

In S3 with the EV button I'm now always ICE-off when gliding to a stop, so it takes a conscious effort to invoke the S4 idle check. I have a couple of opportunities to do it on this commute; I just gotta pay attention to it!

47.7 home last night - Rain :(
53.1 this morning - empty roads, but the handful of drivers that were out were raging all the way!
49.4 / 65 tank

ok, you guys won't believe this.......really......i must have been in a twilight zone episode.

driving home my normal way on the backroads, and a chevy pickup turns on the road ahead of me. i always figure that's good, because if he's ahead of me i don't have to worry about getting passed. i followed him for a couple of miles......at about 45MPH! he was almost going too slow for me! but, since there wasn't anyone close behind me, i just enjoyed the ride. after a bit, there was a car behind me, who i figured would finally pass me, but didn't. must have been a slow night on the roads.

64.7MPG

107 to work. Hiccups throughout. Tank sitting at 74.8.

I filled up this tank as much as I could, so I probably have 11+ gallons in it. Inspired by VABeachPrius, this tank's goal is 800 miles. 900/1000 to come later.

I don't know "davem5321" in WA state, but he video'ed his experience with his new PHEV Prius. I'd never seen it in action before, and it left me with more questions, but enjoyed it nevertheless. Hope you do too.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=PHEV%20davem5321&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&search_category=0&search=Search&v=

My commute is on the major highways around a big city - Boston (anyone else do something like this?). I get a huge FE advantage in the warmer months, but the downside is that the traffic patterns are against me.

So on Tuesday, my 30 mile commute took 2 hours, and Wednesday it took 70 minutes. blech.

I know if no one got in my way, using my minimal hypermiling techniques, I could get 40 MPG sustained, but I have never broken that number.

33.3 mpg corrected (27.5 indicated), 12.7 (10.5) miles, 56F, minimal wind, minimal traffic. LOTS of gliding again today.

Starter is cranking normally again, so I think I had just let the battery get drained with all of yesterday's ICE-OFF. Battery might be on its way out though, so I'll be keeping an eye on the voltage (another good use for the SG!), keep the fan on "I" whenever feasible and try to key back to ACC when stopped at lights.

371 miles on the trip counter. Still no warning light.

Different morning - 68.8mpg getting my 15lbs red lion to the vet (encouraging progonosis on his healing eye he almost lost).

Late commute to work with heavier traffic - 82mpg.

Have a chance of my first 900-mile tank.

had the vet out to the farm to check the horses (lice!) and a sheep (abcess), and went to work late. i thought it would be an advantage since the speed demons are already there, but.......the &*%$*(&(^%$#*& WIND. it's as if i have been transported to nebraska, what with all the wind we have had the last two months. it stands the flags straight out, and it really wears on me, both physically and mentally. every drive in it is a struggle......my battery was really low on the way in, and P&G was hard work. dropped to 64.3, hoping i can pick it up tonight on the backroads home from the barn. by that time of day, i can always hope the wind will die down. :(

Hi Digraph:

___That 40 will come sooner then you think. Just keep working it and it will come as it is only a matter of time ;)

___WriConsult, whenever I see the 12V at 11.7 or below, I know its time for an extended pulse if I like it or not … The Optima in the Accord has removed that problem in all but long night time FAS’s in temps below freezing but I still keep an eye on it as one of the four showing in both the Accord and Ranger.

___Laurie, 64.x on a bad day? What the heck are you going to do on a good day :D

___Temps from 75 - 88 degrees F w/ 5 - 10 mph head/side winds. SG-II shows 80.5 for the trip home.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/Prius_I_MFD_198_miles_-_82_3_mpg_-_Post_Tank_Commute_RT.jpg

___She still has some left in her to discover but only 2 more drives before its over :(

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Well, I goofed. :( I tried to find out if a code was being thrown by a friends '98 Explorer and managed to somehow reset the stats in the SG. During the 3rd segment below I discovered it when the SG wouldn't stay on during FAS and I lost a LOT of reading from it while I was doing that. While trying to get them back in shape I accidentally reset the fillup -- I only wanted to check that the offset was correct but it reset instead of showing me!! ARGH!!!

So I fiddled with it while driving and I think I have it all back to what it is supposed to be (+8.6% on gallons, +1% on speed, 2.0 ltr, 16gl tank, hybid fuel type), but I lost my tank stats. My current trip kept chugging along, but I'm pretty sure it got hosed from all that first part.

So...

88F, sunny, no wind for the first two segments (passenger on #1),
91F, sunny, no wind for the third segment (but can't trust the reading):


42.4mpg for 9.4mi (Work to park)
22.1mpg for 0.6mi (Park to other entrance -- longer to walk and I was leaving in a few)
42.7mpg for 30.0mi (Park to home)


Calculating that out I have (apparently) about 4.4g left and the fuel gauge is pointing at 5/16 tank. The ODO reads 538.9mi.

600mi is in easy reach but I ought to have been shooting closer to 700 with the extra 2 gallons aboard, I think. We'll just have to see how far it will go and what it takes to fill, I guess.

To work 48 mpg, 70f no wind.
To home 52 mpg, 82f slight crosswind.

psy

I set several records today. I set a new record for my second leg of the morning commute, my trip home from the wife's work, and the overall for the day.:woot: Here's the numbers.
1) 60.2-5.8 miles
2) 89.2-9.6(new PR:woot:)
3) 71.9-9.6
4) 114-6.3(new PR:woot:)
5) 66.4-5.1
6) 124-5.1
7) 73.6-8.1
8) 106-8.6
Average for today: 82.2.(new PR:woot:) Tank is at 76.3 at 351.9 miles with 7 pips left. On segment 8, I wish I would have had the camera. I left from the second floor of a hospital parking garage and was able to EV all the way out to the street, around a corner, and up to the light ~3/4 of a mile away. There was a bit of a downhill on the street that helped too. Anyway, the SG was reporting ~3,000 mpg.:eek:until I had to light the ICE.:(

66.1mpg to work, temp was 51F, pulse and glide between 65 and 45mph. 83.5mpg going home, temp was 73F, mostly DWL for the day's average of 74.8mpg. Pulse and glide doesn't appear to give as good FE as DWL with my car.

70.4 @12.0 mi (-950')
30.3 @11.9 mi (+950') including a few shopping stops.
44.3 @23.9 RT.

--Walter

I ended up with the Highlander today (with ScanGauge). I haven't added any calibrations to the ScanGauge yet, so I don't know how accurate these numbers are. According to the MID, the tank went from 31.5 to 32.0 mpg during my 26 miles of driving. The tank now has 381 miles. Before today, the tank was mostly interstate driving at 31.5 mpg and then my wife driving it for the past three days and maintaining the 31.5 mpg.

2.0 miles @ 17.7 mpg
5.5 miles @ 43.5 mpg
7.5 miles @ 40.3 mpg
2.0 miles @ 84.0 mpg
4.4 miles @ 24.6 mpg
4.3 miles @ 84.4 mpg

25.7 miles @ 37.8 mpg

My wife drove the Civic today and improved the tank.:) She drove 57.8 miles at 62.7 mpg to up the tank to 60.8 mpg after 345 miles.

Kind of got owned by the lights on the way out today (was hoping for 110+), but the way back very nearly matched tuesday's record.

99.3 / 11.5 miles / 86F
80.2 / 11.5 miles / 79F (missed record by 0.2)

The day's average was 88.7 / 23.0 miles - also very close to a daily avg high.

The tank is +0.9 to 73.4 / 319 miles / 6 pips.

ho hum. work. ride horse. home. 64.3


however, i have been seeing a lot lately of what seems to be a new trend in speeding around here......the multi vehicle high speed pass.

i came home my usual back road route, and a few miles from the main road turnoff, i noticed a truck behind me. we are in farm country, and it was a milk truck (same size as semi). i could see there was another vehicle behind it. the truck was keeping a respectable distance behind me, even though i was only doing 50. less than 1/4 of a mile from the stop sign, a pickup truck came roaring out from behind the truck and passed us both. he no sooner got past me, than he had to slow down for the stop sign. WHAT THE HECK!!!!!! i have been seeing a LOT of this multiple passing....i turn left onto a two lane road in the morning, and several times recently as i look to the right, it looks like a 4 lane, with cars coming toward me in both lanes.....and for quite some time, making it obvious he's come from the back and is going to pass the whole dang line ahead of him.....:mad:

I set several records today. I set a new record for my second leg of the morning commute, my trip home from the wife's work, and the overall for the day.:woot: Here's the numbers.
1) 60.2-5.8 miles
2) 89.2-9.6(new PR:woot:)
3) 71.9-9.6
4) 114-6.3(new PR:woot:)
5) 66.4-5.1
6) 124-5.1
7) 73.6-8.1
8) 106-8.6
Average for today: 82.2.(new PR:woot:) Tank is at 76.3 at 351.9 miles with 7 pips left. On segment 8, I wish I would have had the camera. I left from the second floor of a hospital parking garage and was able to EV all the way out to the street, around a corner, and up to the light ~3/4 of a mile away. There was a bit of a downhill on the street that helped too. Anyway, the SG was reporting ~3,000 mpg.:eek:until I had to light the ICE.:(

:eek: is right!!! Larry, you just keep raising the bar!!!!

I wasn't making any records today, that's for sure.

Temp down was 88F, clear and sunny,
trip back was 77 and clear:


42.5mpg for 19.9mi (Home to Windows on Minnesota for recognition dinner)
46.6mpg for 24.4mi (Restaurant to home)


I calculate I've got about 3.4g left with 583.5mi driven and the tank sits at just a hair under 1/4. That could be good for over 700 if I can get out of the low number doldrums. Or the number is way off.

On the plus side, the trip home had exactly ONE FAS -- not bad for NICE ON P&G!!! :Banane21:

Trip home at noon was in lunchtime traffic, not too bad, got a 36.1 even with the cicadas. On the way back into work tonight, virtually no traffic, was able to get a 41.5 mpg. Finding that this engine seems to really like staying under 2400rpm. Been using the ScanGauge with RPM, IMPG, GPM, and TPS for the last few days or maybe a week. Using the GPM, I've been trying to keep the pulsing in the 2.0-2.5 GPM, and it seems to be helping pull my numbers up.

My Gosh Larry... Just ... wow.:eek:
Sean, awesome job on 1 FAS!
JimboK, Laurieaw, Locutus, Mr. Kite, Walter, basjoos, Pravus, etc etc: Inspiring - This is really something how many people just keep getting better and better, and are having a ball doing it.

Man... I don't know about you guys, but these DG numbers are getting out of hand! At this rate everyone will be at 180% PoE by Hybrid Fest.

I seem to be about 4 weeks behind my fellow Prius Pilots, but lord Locutus... 88 %$!@$^! I'm gonna need a sail and Flintstones floor boards to hit that. Guess I'll add it to my mod list. One big detractor is AC, but with temps in the 90's it's just a necessary evil that will just have to be factored in.

Well I'm definitely in love with last weeks mods. Never knew how much those failed glides were aggravating me till I had the opportunity to repair the failures. The fact that I may have more MPG in store with an S1 creep strategy instead of the S1a test sound exciting.

Some new EV strategies are borrowed from some comments by Marc. I'm locked into EV when I come to a dead stop. This ensures that I always start my acceleration on EV to 30 kph (20 mph) before I light the ICE. Any other EV enhancements from the EV vets? Also added a new item to my list of EV hacks (#2):
1) If you need to ensure your in (or out) of EV, flip to the consumption screen, and the MFD will jump to the Energy screen (only) on successful EV enage. A good test.
2) While in a glide in NICE-off you can go into and out of EV. Too my surprise if the ICE is off, you don't need to be in gear for EV mode transitions.

Well I've been running a lot of errands, so I don't have all the SG numbers, but for the last 43 miles, I've averaged around 73.7. All with AC on Auto b/t 79-82 deg.

Ohh, and I fiddled with Google Maps. You can plan trips from intersection to intersection. This allowed me to google map from my driveway to my garage entrance. To my surprise, my ODO seems to be over-estimating distance just a tad. Turns out SGII may be accurate, and the ODO may be off. I assume this is probably intentional since any auto maker caught under counting miles would probably get creamed. So best to work in a 0.5% overestimate just to be safe.

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36.7 mpg corrected (30.6 indicated) tonight, 11.5 (9.6) miles, 68F, 9mph tailwind, moderate traffic. Really getting the hang of the ICE-OFF P&G on rolling terrain.

___WriConsult, whenever I see the 12V at 11.7 or below, I know its time for an extended pulse if I like it or not … The Optima in the Accord has removed that problem in all but long night time FAS’s in temps below freezing but I still keep an eye on it as one of the four showing in both the Accord and Ranger.Sounds like something to always keep an eye on even if my battery is OK for now. Will keep one of the gauges on Voltage.

Just curious for when it does come time to replace my existing battery ... which Optima do you have/recommend? The red top or the deep cycle yellow top?

Hi Larry:

___Sounds like the Integrity’s are finally scrubbed and you are in your element now. Congrats on the new personal best!

___Basjoos, if I ever get to the Carolina’s, you, Tim and I will have to get together. It is always great to hear that you are still pushing her.

___Walter, comparing your sig to your 44.3 1mpg segment today; you are really beginning to learn the art of hypermiling. Nice job!

___Mr. Kite, 35 + in a HiHy beats what I can get out of the MDX! That thing kicks @$$ in its element, doesn’t it! Got to hand it to your wife in the HCH-II. 62.7 from a non-serous driver is excellent! Make sure you tell her that too!

___Jerad, shortest trips and one of the highest segments … I don’t know what has gotten into you these past 6 months but whatever it is, I hope you share it with the rest of us sometime ;)

___Lauire, you are performing as steady as a rock. 64, 64, 64 … I wish it could be that good for all of us :)

___Sean, you are another … Talk about coming out of nowhere running mid 30’s for years and within 6 weeks you punch out a 46 mpg tank with more yet to come ;) According to the Internet, Hypermiling is a myth :D

___Ken, you are another up and comer. From zip to what might be a near 40 mpg tank coming up. In an older Ranger no less! Good god what has the world come too :angel:

___Dan, you are doing well figuring out the Prius’ secrets even today.

___Std. 72 – 84 degree day with 5 – 10 mph side/tail winds. 76.8 per the SG-II with the MFD at 82.0 after 198 miles.

___WriConsult, the Optima Yellow Top for us FAS’ers ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

___Sean, you are another … Talk about coming out of nowhere running mid 30’s for years and within 6 weeks you punch out a 46 mpg tank with more yet to come ;) According to the Internet, Hypermiling is a myth :D



No myths here!! ;)

Unfortunately, this tank is a wash. I've been completely stymied by traffic, circumstances, and happenstance. And now I've no idea what the tank should be at. I'm still having fun though and the tank will still be in the mid 40's (I think!!!). :)

Numbers for this morning were less than ideal. I had to split off of my intended route due to accident/construction (not sure which as I didn't get close enough to find out) and it ended up costing me big time.

Temp at 68F, partly cloudy, no wind:


44.6mpg for 26.7mi (Home to other work building)


I calculate about 2.8g left (from what the SG is reporting) in the tank at 610.5mi -- the fuel gauge sits somewhat under 1/4. This would leave me one gallon in the tank if the consumption rate has been correct (SG thinks 16 and I think 17g total capacity)

I'll be leaving early today and hoping I can punch out a 50+ on the way home. I'll fill up tomorrow and see what the actual damages are. :o

Started later than usual - 78.7mpg, at least 5mpg under what it otherwise would have been.

Around 36 MPG homeward on Wednesday; rode my bicycle to work yesterday, then segments of 41/43/52.3 MPG this morning for 47.5 MPG over 15.4 miles at 52°F. This chunk of the tank is at 42.6 MPG with about 6.8 gallons remaining.

Awful drive in. Rain at levels that would make Noah proud. at one point my street and yard were flooded out. And no I dont live in a flood plain. I waited for my street and yard to return to view then left for work. Hit the rain north of town. Running late already. I had to keep going. The poor Civic had to dog paddle in. Was good for a awful 40 mpg...

psy

Awful drive in. Rain at levels that would make Noah proud. at one point my street and yard were flooded out. And no I dont live in a flood plain. I waited for my street and yard to return to view then left for work. Hit the rain north of town. Running late already. I had to keep going. The poor Civic had to dog paddle in. Was good for a awful 40 mpg...
Thanks Wayne :) - it will be a bit before the tank gets up to high 30's, right now at 32.6 at 266 miles, needle just moved below 3/4 mark, a 650 mile tank is what is attainable per ScanGauge at the moment.
psy

Nice visual Psy, the dog paddling Civic :) Way home last night 41.3, the way in this morning in medium traffic 35.7.

took the backroads to work this morning, which just about parallels the 4 lane, only west a couple of miles. very quiet and peaceful. i may have to do this all the time. i got passed by a few cars, but nothing like the frenetic speeders on the other road.

rolled into work at 64.7, 596 miles on the tank with 5-6 bars left on the gas gauge. we be goin' for 700......:D

oh, ya, and i was on TV last night.....the first night since the interview that i DIDN'T have the news one......

___Mr. Kite, 35 + in a HiHy beats what I can get out of the MDX! That thing kicks @$$ in its element, doesn’t it! Got to hand it to your wife in the HCH-II. 62.7 from a non-serous driver is excellent! Make sure you tell her that too!

Yes, I am loving the HiHy's FE. So far it seems a little bit better than the Odyssey at interstate cruising (despite what the EPA numbers say) and of course it is WAY better and easier in the city. One of these days I will get a block heater installed in it.

I did tell my wife how good those numbers were. She's certainly capable.

Well, the hypermiling gods have released me from their playful grip, and today allowed me to put it all together for a record trip in.

https://webspace.utexas.edu/mparrish/misc/DSC02356a.JPG

132 to work. The 130 barrier falls. It became clear today that my latest wrinkle combined with a full NICE-on for warmup on a decline combined with an early force of stage 4 is my way to go, so I look forward to some more runs soon. There were 3 light hiccups along the way, so 140 is certainly not out of the question.

Almost pegged six bars. Warmup is significantly transferred to bar #2; I gotta focus on squeezing 15-20mpg more out of it.

I've got a little stretch on my commute I call "the run". I get up to speed and force a glide that with some timing usually lasts 2.5 miles to a red. I've extended it by waiting atop a hill for a green, EV moding down and picking up speed, slamming into N, merging right, back to D, making a hard right at 25mph, and paralleling the river at 20-25. When no one is on my tail, as today, that's 3.5 miles without the ICE. Mileage skyrockets from ~100 to ~145, which I give back a bit as I turn uphill into downtown. Today it resulted in a blank bar.

The fun continues.....................

32.1 mpg corrected (30.8 indicated) mpg in this morning, 12.2 (11.7) miles, 55F, 6mph headwind, moderate traffic. Minimal rolling ICE-OFF stuff: light rain meant at least parking lights on and I've learned to ICE-OFF as much as my battery can handle even with the lights off:D.

394.6 miles and still no fuel warning light. Maybe I'm doing better than I thought. If I have 2 gallons sloshing around in the tank right now (now looks possible) I can hit my 30mpg target. My gas gauge seems to drop precipitously fast from 3/8 to just above "E". At that point I still seem to have a looong way to go.

Well, the hypermiling gods have released me from their playful grip, and today allowed me to put it all together for a record trip in.

132 to work. The 130 barrier falls. It became clear today that my latest wrinkle combined with a full NICE-on for warmup on a decline combined with an early force of stage 4 is my way to go, so I look forward to some more runs soon. There were 3 light hiccups along the way, so 140 is certainly not out of the question.

The fun continues.....................

WOW!! Way to go!! Here's a couplabananas for you :Banane35:

132 to work. The 130 barrier falls. It became clear today that my latest wrinkle combined with a full NICE-on for warmup on a decline combined with an early force of stage 4 is my way to go, so I look forward to some more runs soon. There were 3 light hiccups along the way, so 140 is certainly not out of the question.

:D The milestones just keep falling, don't they? Congrats!

(If you can hold 68.3 on the way back, you'll have a 90 TODAY :eek:)

This week has just plain sucked. :(

I took the back route I used to take to avoid traffic. I didn't even get to 40mpg until half way through the trip!!!! :mad:

Looks like I'm screwed no matter what I do.

88F, clear and sunny, no wind:


43.8mpg for 23.9mi (Work other building to home)


I should have about 2.2g left and the ODO shows 634.5mi. The fuel gauge points just a bit above 1/8 tank now. At this point, I'll be seriously surprised if I even hit 45mpg on this tank.

Ok.. got a 71 today with tons of traffic and highway driving. Daughter was sick so I was Dr Dad till my wife relieved me around lunch. Then I had to run a ton of errands to close out her workday and start mine. Love this EV and EBH. Time was a 70 would have made my day, now it's down right expected.

Filled up today 68.1 MFD and 64.7 pen-n-paper. Bringing my life average up to 56 flat! <edit> Added the gas spilled in April, brings it down to 55.6 </edit> :woot: I finally got my hypermiler star!

Can't wait to hear about Marc's soon to be 90 mpg day! Hey Marc, I can make Austin in about 3 hours, if you stay late I can give you a push to help out your segment ;)

Here's hoping for a record day.

Well after my trip home I'll start working on an S1 creep start strategy for next week.

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Hi Marc:

___Way to go! 90 RT with that climb back home is saying something!

___Sean, there will be better days :(

___Dan, I really need to update the Congrats Hypermiler thread, don’t I? You should see all the new members posting previous tanks as of late ;)

___75 - 88 degree temps, no wind and 10 miles worth of stop and crawls saved the best for last … 96.6 per the SG-II after 19 miles to the Interstate. This was a short tank before she goes back to Cheryl of the MaHG in a few hours. 392.5 miles on 4.96 gallons top off to top off for a 79.13 mpg tank. Compared to the recently calibrated SG-II, not a bad calibration if I do say so myself!

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/83_6_mpg_-_Last_96_2_mile_commute_home.jpg
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/79_1_mpg_over_392_5_mile_tank-_last_commute_home.jpg
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/Prius_I_MFD_392_miles_-_83_4_mpg_-_Gas_Station_Final_Short_Tank_Fillup.jpg
83.6 mpg over 96.2 miles for the commute home. 79.1 mpg for the 392.5 mile short tank. 83.4 per the MFD for the same short tank.

___She showed me a few secrets last night and this morning that I hope you Prius II guys can use once I get this review out … Anyone want to loan me their Prius II for two weeks :angel:

___Good Luck

___Wayne

59.7mpg on the MFD to end the week, 300mi on the tank. Prior to Wayne's pulling 70s and 80s in a Prius I on a mostly highway commute, I would have said my numbers seem pretty decent for a Prius running between 45 and 65mph. ;)

Hi Tim:

___If you or any of the rest of you had the first 19 miles of the Warm-up P&G route I have available to me thanks to Carl H. (only drive the Interstate for 2 miles of it!) and the Chicago traffic nightmares that turned into godsends in disguise this week, you would be punching out these numbers without even working hard! That 10 mile stop and crawl at one point saw 4 of 6 5-minute bars pegged for pete sake! With what I seem to have found, this tank and the final 2 segments were a lot easier to get then the previous week and a half of fighting for every tenth. I just hope you guys can use some of what I saw in the Prius-I?

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Can't wait to hear about Marc's soon to be 90 mpg day! Hey Marc, I can make Austin in about 3 hours, if you stay late I can give you a push to help out your segment ;)

Here's hoping for a record day.



I'll give you a call 2 miles out for my "bump draft" ;)

90 will be a tall order day, as I'll need 68.3 as Jared pointed out. My best back home is 63.7. But 85 would be a milestone too.

A 90 RT commute is a goal of mine, but I imagine it will happen under more ideal (read: no AC) conditions. At some point in the fall I'll have one of those freak days with the lights that will get me a 140+ (150???!!!!!!! :) ). A 150 plus my current record back home will get me that 90. I'll be tellin' the wife that day that I'm leaving late and slowin' 'er down. :)

Dan - back when you were consistently posting upper 60s without EBH/EV, I thought to myself "good god wait till he gets those things in". Looks like I'm right.

Congrats on the hypermiler status!

Oh, while it is fresh in my mind, I think I speak for the rest of the Cleanmpg Prius II community when I say that we really, really want Wayne to get his hands on a Prius II for a week or two. :)

Oh, while it is fresh in my mind, I think I speak for the rest of the Cleanmpg Prius II community when I say that we really, really want Wayne to get his hands on a Prius II for a week or two. :)
I dunno. After what you other Prius folks keep doing, my fragile ego can't handle much more. :p

31.8 mpg indicated over 10.3 miles (11.2 actual), finished off by a 1/2 mile glide right into the gas station. Fuel warning finally came on at 401 miles (a new record) and figured this would be as good a time as ever to see how I've done.

Now I feel a little like Charlie Brown after Lucy grabs the football: Don't get my hopes up too high ... don't get my hopes up too high ... moment of truth is getting closer ... feeling more hopeful ... maybe it's possible ... here it comes ... WHUMPP! Drat.

405.8 miles on 13.9 gal gives me 29.2 for the tank overall, less than I was hoping for. Oh well, being the optimist that I am, I can see the bright side:

29.2 is the best tank I've ever gotten on this car, substantially better than I'd ever gotten on the highway prior to starting this exercise a couple months ago.
405.8 miles is more than I've ever gotten on a single tank in any vehicle I've ever driven, rental or owned.
At this mileage, I could have potentially gone another 30 miles. That's another round trip to work!
I know I can do better (this is the one that matters most). Will keep at it.

Guess I'll have a banana after all.:Banane14:

47.5 miles at 38.7 mpg for me in the HiHy today. The tank is now at 32.7 mpg and 430 miles.

My wife did 57.6 mpg over 39.2 miles with the tank sitting at 60.5 mpg and 384 miles.

Today's FE was a bit on the low side for me. I once again ended my last segment last night late enough that the "Today" mileage didn't reset. What I have is 76.9 after 132 miles for yesterday and today. I had a bunch of short trips with a fair amount of city driving. Also, the stops between segments were just a bit too long to go in and leave the car in Park so, when I came back out, the ICE would have to run; even if it was only for a short time until it did the idle check.
1) 65.6-5.8 miles(home to wife's work)
2) 77.4-9.6(wife's work to my work)
3) 71.9-9.6(my work to wife's work)
4) 101-6.3(wife's work to home)
5) 68.2-11.6(home to bank)
6) 44.7-.5(bank to liscence branch)
7) 60.4-3.3(liscence branch to my wife's grandma's-she's 95 and physically and mentally OK:))
8) 64.2-8.8(grandma's to Lowe's for a new circuit breaker for the house)
9) 80.4-12.2(Lowe's to visit my mom in the nursing home)
10) 117-5.2(nursing home to home)
Tank is at 75.9 after 425.7 miles. This is down from yesterday when it was 76.3 351.9 miles.

WriConsult,

The best thing about hypermiling is...........tomorrow is another day to have another go. 30 will come.........

Back home @ 62.4, for a record RT commute of 84.6. We'll round up and call it an 85 ;). 90 one of these days.

Next goal? a 30 minute, six pegged bars commute. I find that prospect more insane than any of my other goals.

work. ride horse. home. 64.7.

650 miles on the tank with 4 bars left :)

WriConsult,

The best thing about hypermiling is...........tomorrow is another day to have another go. 30 will come.........

Back home @ 62.4, for a record RT commute of 84.6. We'll round up and call it an 85 ;). 90 one of these days.

Next goal? a 30 minute, six pegged bars commute. I find that prospect more insane than any of my other goals.

Nice :) I see a 90 in your future, probably by way of 150 on the way out. :D

I have had 5 bars pegged, but not 6. My favorite 11.5 mile route just doesn't take quite long enough. ;) Found the snapshot I took from it back on may 10:

http://tripprofile.com/images/070510-totkd-108.jpg

With your great route, you *have* to be able to get 6 pegged bars at some point. :D

Or let Wayne borrow your Prius for 2 weeks and have him nail it. :eek:

Wayne, thanks -- I'm hoping the better days start tomorrow!! :p

Everybody is turning in such awesome segments this week! No EPA ratings for us! :Banane36:

This tank has entered its twilight -- nowhere near where I had hoped it would be, but that happens. Next week I'll be leaving earlier all week so I should be able to pull some good segments. Right now all I want to do is SLEEP.

Did some extra running around that I didn't expect. All but the last segment were at 88F, partly cloudy skies, 15mpg side/head wind. The last segment was on wet roads in the dark, 68F, 2 FASes at the end up to my garage door. (One of the springs broke when the wife left so now we can't get in or out without risking damage to the opener. I've had WAY too many things breaking recently. :()


41.7mpg for 8.6mi (Home to Sam's for a wedding shower cake)
42.1mpg for 9.1mi (Sam's to home)
44.9mpg for 14.1mi (Home to townhouse)
43.9mpg for 9.1mi (Townhouse to home)


I calculate I've got about 1.3g left with 675.7mi on the ODO. The fuel gauge is currently showing about 2.5 needle widths up from the empty mark -- a little less than 1/16 tank. This was set up with a gallon leeway so as long as it is reasonably close to actual consumption I've really got about 2.3g left. Either way I'll be fine getting down to my haircut tomorrow and coming back. That should put me at or over 700mi on this tank -- new PR (but with 2 extra gallons to help)!! :woot:

Lot of driving today, about 1/2 of it through relatively unfamiliar territory. Did some Interstate 355 P&G with NICE-on coasting from about 57-50. Did about 2 miles of distant drafting and let the semi go, he was moving off for 290. Just not comfy enough to NICE-OFF coast yet on interstate, at least not with the dingalings that were around me.

Came real close to setting a record again for the way home from work, but had a stoplight that was green shifted to red :( by ambulance, and then coasting left turn got killed by 3 nitwits :mad: that appeared out of nowhere, so was 42.4 mpg to home, just short of 42.8 record.

But nicest thing of the day was seeing a 36.5 mpg for 112 miles :D, and then seeing the tank at 33.3 mpg for 333 miles, with 333 miles to go :Banane03: Oh good grief I could end up with the 'number of the beast' tank! :eek: The gas gauge is still pretty close to the 3/4 mark, so I have no idea what to expect yet for sure, but I kinda sniff a 700 being possible..

Sean, you are getting quite proficient at this. Kinda funny that we both are looking at 700 mile tanks being reachable. :cool:

___She showed me a few secrets last night and this morning that I hope you Prius II guys can use once I get this review out … Anyone want to loan me their Prius II for two weeks :angel:

___Good Luck

___Wayne

OK, so spill the beans! What secrets? Wayne, you can drive down any time to pick up my Prius. I'm just afraid that I will never get it back.:D

My daily commute is 138 miles, mostly highway on I40 and I95. Speed limits range from 65 to 70 MPH. I cruise at 65 and turn in 58-59 MPG consistently. I miss having a hypermiling friendly commute.:(

Hi Dan:

___I do not think you have the traffic tie-ups we have in Chicago and without them; she would not be pulling the numbers she did the past two weeks. Read the review once its up and hopefully there is something in it for everybody? Or not ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Cross-town commute from my fiancee's house: 29 miles, 84 MPG. If that's not the best ever on this trip, it's close. I tried a different route for one segment which may have actually shortened the trip, and it was smooth sailing with no traffic for practically the entire segment. It was a little cool this morning, 53F to start and hitting the low 60s at the finish, so maybe I can hit 90 MPG on this trip when mid-summer temps peak. Of course then I won't be looking forward to the p.m. trip home with no AC, but I'll deal with it ... maybe.

I did a lot of extra city driving this tank as I was outfitting a new office space, and I had some extra-slow commute segments over the mountain due to both the construction and tourist seasons being in full swing.

The wife also drove the Yaris up the hill to her folks 3 times to feed their dog while they were out of town.

I even ended up filling up a few days early as I forgot the wife's new pain meds for her still-healing leg on my desk at work, and had to get up there this morning to pick them up. I hadn't planned on fueling up until this coming Tuesday morning but the extra commute this morning killed that idea and I fueled up on the way home.

518.6 miles on 10.362 gallons equals 50.048 MPG.

518.6 miles on 10.362 gallons equals 50.048 MPG.


Nice driving!

OK, so spill the beans! What secrets? Wayne, you can drive down any time to pick up my Prius. I'm just afraid that I will never get it back.:D

My daily commute is 138 miles, mostly highway on I40 and I95. Speed limits range from 65 to 70 MPH. I cruise at 65 and turn in 58-59 MPG consistently. I miss having a hypermiling friendly commute.:(


I'll have to make sure that I still have MY car after next Saturday when I come home from the meet at Oak Creek.;):D

518.6 miles on 10.362 gallons equals 50.048 MPG.
Brian, you seem to have mastered hill driving. That's really impressive for a Yaris.

--Walter

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/

Great, thanks! It confirmed my suspicions, work is about 300 feet lower than home. Explains why my mileage is usually better going in.

Nice driving!

I second that, Brian!! :flag:

I didn't do as well as you did but I did surprise myself. :D

I had to run errands in addition to my haircut (the wife called and insisted I pick up a fruit tray and some ice from the grocery -- then I had to stop to get gas).

Temp at 80F, sunny and partly cloudy, no wind:


44.3mpg for 14.3mi (Home to haircut)
31.0mpg for 1.1mi (Haircut to Cub Foods)
46.4mpg for 15.8mi (Cub Foods to Costco for gas)
38.9mpg for 1.8mi (Costco to home)


So I filled up... kept going until it showed at the top of the filler neck (geez, takes a while to get that far!), and stood back grinning at the amount! I figured I needed 15.3g to fill -- it took 14.92!! :Banane17:

So... new PRs all the way around. :)

New tank distance: 707.3mi
New fillup difference: 15 days
New best tank: 47.406mpg

And my LFE went up by another tenth!!

Obviously I'm still a bit off with my gallon offset, but I'm pleased as punch that even with the awful driving conditions over the last couple of weeks I still managed to beat the previous tank!

50mpg, here I come!! :woot:

Here's hoping you can catch a 700mi tank too, Ken! :thumbs_up:

Checked my tire pressure yesterday on a whim (it's been a few weeks)... and much to my surprise I must have a slow leak or something in the rear left one. It was all the way down to 22! The others were still around the 46/44 where I last filled them. Pumped it back up for now, but need to get that fixed...

Checking out the MPG clinic course with Wayne today. Must've done a little better by osmosis or something. ;) All after the first segment were stop w/o shutdown.

82.9 / 6.9 miles / 84F
97.3 / 2.7 miles / 82F
93.3 / 5.5 miles / 82F <-- clinic loop
81.9 / 2.7 miles / 82F
78.6 / 7.7 miles / 81F
102 / 4.6 miles / 81F

87.0 / 30.1 miles for the day.

The tank is +1.0 to 74.4 / 349 miles / 6 pips.

barn. ride horse. home. 65.1

how far can a civic go with 2 bars on the gas gauge?

So... new PRs all the way around. :)

New tank distance: 707.3mi
New fillup difference: 15 days
New best tank: 47.406mpg

And my LFE went up by another tenth!!


Great job!:Banane47: New PR's feel awesome, don't they? Now, it shouldn't be long until we see the following: 750 mile tank, 18 days between fillups, and 50 mpg's for a tank.

I started my driving when the temp was ~90F and it got as high as 93F and there was very little wind.
1) 59.2-5.1(home to mom's)
2) 155-.7(mom's to Dollar General)
3) 126-5.4(DG to home)
4) 64.3-8.4(home to Kroger's)
5) 77.0-13.3(Kroger's to feed mom's cats)
6) 129-5.3(mom's to home)
Average for today: 78.5. Tank is at 76.1 at 464.8 miles and there are 5 pips left.

47.2 @16 mi (round trip, low point -300' below home).
Ashburnham dump.
I can get better mileage going to the center of my town than to the places I go more often because of less elevation drop (-300' vs -750' to -1300').
--Walter

82 MPG on the trip home, for 83 average for the day, 59 miles.

Hi Brian:

___Congrats on your second 50. Simply excellent!

___Larry, on the way to Madison this morning I was drooling at all those miles of empty frontage roads from the state line to beyond Racine, WI. to play on … It might take you 3 hours to get there but I bet the numbers would look pretty good ;)

___Sean, congrats on beating your personal best over a tank! Best Hyundai Elantra tank on the planet in fact :D

___Jerad, I am simply amazed just looking at the numbers you achieved today and you were not even trying given all the stops and starts we pulled in the State park start point! Heaven help anyone that goes up against you when the chips are down :)

___Laurie, how far do you want to go? I say load up a gallon container in the trunk and let us know how it turns out :D

___Larry, mom’s to Dollar General? WTF!

___Walter, I have never heard of someone pulling an upper 40 segment in a Fit? Nice job!

___Jim, you just keep popping out those 80’s like nothing, don’t you ;)

___74 - 82 degrees F and 0 - 5 mph tail/side winds. 55.2 for the trip back from Madison. I miss my (I mean Cheryl’s) hybrid :ccry:

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Did a home tour that took us all over town today ... 34.0 indicated over 104.0 actual (98.3 indicated) miles. Temps 58-64F, winds light & variable except 15-20 mph tailwind on the return leg. Dry except for moderate rain during one ~10 mile stretch.

Was mostly on roads I don't drive regularly. It's interesting how much familiarity helps with some of our techniques. I'm a lot better at timing the pulses, coasts and glides with the lights and the undulations of the roads on my commute than I was on these less familiar roads today. Still was able to do it quite a bit, and better than I could have a couple weeks ago. Really starting to get the hang of all this.

___Larry, mom’s to Dollar General? WTF!
___Good Luck

___Wayne

The really scary thing was that it was reading over 400 from mom's driveway to the street which was just over .1 miles. :eek:

Went out to the Henry Ford and Greenfield village for Motor Muster, their classic car show. Pretty much all expressway driving, arrived with a 38.9 average. Got to ride in a 1967 Buick, man is that a nice ride!

Anyway, took my parents to dinner afterwards, then back to my place. (We carpooledish, they drove to my house, I drove to Henry Ford.) 38.7 MPG average so far. Eh.

62.9mpg on a bunch of short commute and lots of rain. :( Oh well, the very rainy weather will make the summer cooler, saving lots more on utilities than the extra gas.

Over a half-mile segment, was going 42mph and passed a blue Prius II. ;)

i have been seeing Prii all over the area i live/work in, including two stopped next to each other at a light, and 3 within several miles of each other, going the opposite direction i was going.

Great job!:Banane47: New PR's feel awesome, don't they? Now, it shouldn't be long until we see the following: 750 mile tank, 18 days between fillups, and 50 mpg's for a tank.


You bet your boots they do!! All I need is some reasonable traffic to do what I know I can do now... :banane58:


___Sean, congrats on beating your personal best over a tank! Best Hyundai Elantra tank on the planet in fact :D


I'm so jazzed right now -- making PRs is great... Doing it when you think you've failed is AWESOME!!! Remember when I said I'd do anything to get it over 40mpg?? :p

50mpg is definitely my goal -- once I'm there I can legitimately say I'm in hybrid territory with my mileage. ;)

i have been seeing Prii all over the area i live/work in, including two stopped next to each other at a light, and 3 within several miles of each other, going the opposite direction i was going.

Laurie, I know what you mean. The other day I counted seven of them in my work parking lot! Last time I went to my father-in-law's cabin I saw 9 on the way up. Crazy!!

It looks like I'm done driving already for the day. My mother-in-law is bringing T-bone steaks and the wife and daughter and her are going to cook them on the charcoal grill along with a few wet hickory chips for added smoke flavor.:woot::D I'm going to have to quit typing about that or my keyboard is going to short out from all the drool.:p Just one round trip to church and back: 56.0 there and 95.6 on the way back at 10.4 miles total for 75.8. Tank is at 5 pips after 475.2 miles at 76.0 mpg.

HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL!!

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went to barn, rode horse, filled up car. i hope you will forgive my indulgence in posting the results of that tank in a new thread :D

on the way home my gauge showed 79.4 for 34.5 miles.....here we go again :woot:

Shorter trips around town today, but did well. :D

87.5 / 4.5 miles / 81F <-- segment best by 2.5 MPG
94.3 / 5.8 miles / 82F <-- segment best by 1.8 MPG
68.1 / 5.3 miles / 86F

81.8 / 15.6 miles for the day.

The tank is +0.3 to 74.7 / 364 miles / 6 pips.

I filled up yesterday so I have a new tank to play with. We all went to Boulder today in the Highlander. I took the backroads and ended up around 45 mpg over 38 miles.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/504/medium/IMAGE_00018.jpg

Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there.
Went to Worcester be with my sons.
52.6 @32.6 mi. Home to Worcester.
unrecorded segment ~30mpg @5? mi city (included in day total).
43.1 @ 32.4 mi. Worc. to Gardner. (some city miles)
51.8 @ 16.8 mi Gardner to home.
46.2 @ 88.7 mi Day's total.

My city driving 'skills' need work. Fortunately, most of my driving is not city, but rural roads or highway.
--Walter

15.1 mi @ 75.8 @ 81 ºF; Fri PM
_4.9 mi @ 77.2 @ 77 ºF; Sat AM
_4.7 mi @ 76.1 @ 75 ºF; Sat AM
19.5 mi @ 68.7 @ 82 ºF; Sun PM
12.5 mi @ 69.1 @ 81 ºF; Sun PM

Jim/Marc/Dan/locutus, Ya'll keep kicking out those 80 mpg RT like they are routine. Hopefully I can find that grove in the next few weeks. I'm getting pretty close only 2-3 MPG behind. Now it looks like Laurie's gonna start throwing 80's! Man I've got to step it up.

Brian, 50 in a Yaris! Man alive you'll make those cost comparisons between Yaris and Prius pretty hard to make even. D4mn fine driving there!

Sean, You chasing after Brian's numbers is just totally insane.

As for me... Finished the week out with a PoE of 128.4% (just missed 130), and a weekly MPG of 74.5 (just missed 75). Still a weeks record, so I'll take it. This was also the first week where I ran AC the whole time. Today the two sub-70 segments were heavy on AC, plus I had the whole family in the car so all the vents were opened making the AC work even harder.

PS. Ditto to the other Dads out there . Happy Father's Day!

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Father's Day was great ... except in the mpg department. 8 mile round trip to restaurant for brunch, only 24.0 mpg indicated. I think the combination of 55F temps and short distance (minimal warmup) must have been the big factors. At least it was short, not too much fuel burned. As a family we traveled a greater distance by bicycle today (10 miles) than we did by car.

I think I reported this awhile back, but I'm doing some comparisons of P&G with steady-speed driving as described here (http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=32732&hl=test). Testing has been on hold pending the acquisition of data logging capabilities, but I finally got that going with Can-View as described here (http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=17709&hl=test). So yesterday afternoon was spent driving back and forth through the industrial park. Can't say what the total MPG was because I reset the CV after each test, but I'm sure it was well into the 70s. Some of the individual test segments were >100 MPG.

I went to the mountains this weekend. I was alone, so I could P&G slowly with no A/C. I only lost 2 MPG over 200 miles uphill 1000 feet. I topped off the tank a little early since I was going to be doing more highway treks where the gas stations are questionable at best. My return trip put the tank at 61.1 MPG over about 300 miles. I had a state trooper following me for about 50 miles. I didn't P&G as much as I would have liked. Every time we came to a passing zone, there was on-coming traffic. There weren't any good places to pull off and let him pass either, so on we went.

Note: For previous weeks, look here, and for later weeks, look here.

Late hit on the data dump but I am very behind... here's week 24

Data Dump...

Key (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/z/Dan/blog/?cmd=viewentry&entryid=13)#|Notes|Start trip|Start mpg|Start SoC|End trip|End mpg|End SoC|Avg mpg|Trip mi|°F|50W car|Er± mpg
01|Drive in Monday (6/11; wu=66)|515.6|66.1|4|529.9|66.4|4|79.39|14.3|82.0|2.5|5.2
02|Work to pool Mon (wu=52)|529.9|66.4|4|544.8|66.7|3|79.47|14.9|93.0|2.0|5.1
03|Pool to home Mon|544.8|66.7|3|547.8|66.7|4|66.70|3.0|91.0|0.0|19.3
04|Drive in Tue (wu=82; pS1c=58)|547.8|66.7|4|562.1|66.9|5|75.58|14.3|84.0|2.0|4.9
05|Drive home Tue (wu=52)|562.1|66.9|5|575.3|67.1|5|76.89|13.2|93.0|2.0|5.6
06|Drive in Wed (wu=70; pS1c=56)|575.3|67.1|5|589.6|67.3|4|76.47|14.3|84.0|3.0|5.2
07|Work to Grocery (wu=50)|589.6|67.3|4|592.7|67.3|5|67.30|3.1|93.0|0.0|20.4
08|Grocery to Home|592.7|67.3|5|603.8|67.4|5|73.21|11.1|88.0|1.0|6.3
09|Drive in Thurs (wu=70; pS1c=56)|603.8|67.4|5|618.2|67.7|5|83.23|14.4|93.0|1.5|6.3
10|Work to Karate (wu=.6mi @ 50)|618.2|67.7|5|631.1|67.8|6|72.96|12.9|93.0|1.0|5.6
11|Karate to home|631.1|67.8|6|632.5|67.7|4|40.66|1.4|93.0|0.0|20.0
12|Errands to gas station|632.5|67.7|4|662.1|68.1|5|77.94|29.6|91.0||2.8
13|Gas station to reset|0.0|65.1|5|1.1|65.1|3|65.10|1.1|90.0||0.1
14|Reset to work|0.0|65.1|3|1.0|65.1|3|65.10|1.0|90.0||0.1
15|Work to home|1.0|65.1|3|16.1|75.0|4|75.76|15.1|81.0||0.0
16|Other Driver Errands|16.1|75.0|4|139.8|52.9|6|50.95|123.7|81.0||0.1
17|Trip to Walmart|139.8|52.9|6|144.7|53.5|5|79.10|4.9|77.0|0.5|5.6
18|Home from Walmart|144.7|53.5|5|149.4|54.0|4|75.81|4.7|75.0|0.0|5.6
19|Out to dinner|149.4|54.0|4|168.9|55.1|5|65.29|19.5|82.0|7.0|1.1
20|Home from Dinner|168.9|55.1|5|181.4|55.9|3|69.54|12.5|81.0|0.5|2.1
21|Errand|181.4|55.9|3|195.7|56.9|4|73.60|14.3|82.0|1.0|2.1

Weeks stats|||||||||
Current city|81.88%| | | | | | |Goal EPA_mpg for current city/hwy split|58.14 mpg
Current hwy|18.12%| | | | | | |Current_mpg for current city/hwy split|*74.43 mpg
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Difference (PoE)|128 %||||||||Key (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/z/Dan/blog/?cmd=viewentry&entryid=13)

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