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bassplyer92517
12-26-2011, 09:54 PM
Taking my Ford Ranger home on Friday from San Francisco to San Diego (close to 600 miles). On my way up I hit an all time high of about 24 mpg. Are there any reccomendations other than the basics for such a long trip? I rarely ever drive this far so I don't know if there is anything different I should be trying. I'd love to see 30 mpg and make the drive in almost 1 tank, but I figure that would take some serious modifications. Thanks guys.

SentraSE-R
12-26-2011, 10:30 PM
Make 55 mph your top speed, and take US 101 instead of I-5. If you must take I-5, make 62 mph your top speed. Be sure your tires are inflated to within 5 psi of sidewall maximums.

bassplyer92517
12-26-2011, 10:49 PM
Make 55 mph your top speed, and take US 101 instead of I-5. If you must take I-5, make 62 mph your top speed. Be sure your tires are inflated to within 5 psi of sidewall maximums.

Why do u say take the 101? I have actually never taken it, always the 5 just because its more of a straight shot? More chance to go slower?

SentraSE-R
12-26-2011, 11:29 PM
Exactly. Much less traffic and slower speeds, plus more hills to pulse & glide on. You can set your cruise control to 50 or 55 mph on 101 & not impede traffic. On I-5, 62 mph feels unsafe by comparison.

bassplyer92517
12-26-2011, 11:38 PM
Didn't think about it that way, great advice! Too bad I don't have cruise control....:(, but i guess that means more time to P&G. lol

TheStepChild
12-27-2011, 05:44 AM
dont stop.

pack your lunch and munchies. try not to stop, unless you have to.

ALS
12-27-2011, 09:35 AM
dont stop.

pack your lunch and munchies. try not to stop, unless you have to.

Drink water and nothing with sugar or caffeine and that also includes any liquids with in twelve hours of your leaving on the trip.

bassplyer92517
12-27-2011, 10:33 AM
Good idea on the no-stopping thing. My main goal is to fill up before I leave and make it home on one tank of gas. That means I have to pull and average of 27.5 mpgs to do it. I got 24 coming up, taking the I-5 so I really hope this is possible.

southerncannuck
12-27-2011, 05:42 PM
I’m going to be the devil’s advocate and sing off the Clean MPG script. A 600 mile trip at 75 mph will take 8 hours on the road. 55 mph will take close to 12 hours. The difference between the two speeds is large in a % standpoint, but in absolute number of gallons it hardly amounts to 4 gallons. Slow speeds don’t add up to a hill of bean’s difference in time on short trips but on a 600 mile run it’s close to 4 hours. I would open her up and get there sooner.

bassplyer92517
12-27-2011, 06:13 PM
Hmmmm, I didn't even consider the extra amount of time, but you're totally right. Especially since I now have 1 passenger with me the whole ride. And I just did the calculations for approx. money saved. At 55 mph I'm gonna say I can get 25 mpg as a rough estimate. That equates to about 24 gallons used. at 75 mph lets say 20 mpg and that equates to 30 gallons of gas. At about $3.60 for a gallon that would cost me $86.40 to make the trip at 55 mph and $108 to make the trip at 75 mph. So, I save roughly $20, but spend an extra 4 hours on the road. I guess that comes down to the decision of whether or not I want to spend 12 hours on the road, doesn't sound too exciting, but we shall see.

TheStepChild
12-27-2011, 06:17 PM
That's my problem on most trips over 3-400 miles. Just want home and out of the truck

bassplyer92517
12-27-2011, 06:19 PM
Yea honestly 20 bucks is not worth a 12 hour day in the truck. Sorry if that goes against the hypermiler way, ill work extra hard when i get home. I've been away too long as it is. lol

ALS
12-27-2011, 06:23 PM
I'm not of the fifty five every where you go kind of guy.

100 miles or less 55 mph
120-200 miles 60 mph
Anything over say 250 miles 65 miles per hour max.

There is a mpg vs time factor that needs to be addressed.

If your driving a short distance 100 miles or less your not saving that much time driving 75 mph over 55 miles per hour.

When you start getting your distances up over 250 miles then the speed / time / mpg discussion starts to come into play.

600 miles at 65 mph 9:14 vs 8:34 at 70 mph it is probably even less of a difference due to traffic and stops. Driving from home to my place in Fl. is 1170 miles. Driving down and back at max of 65 mph over the 70 mph speed limit, it only costs me about 45 minutes, and I save around 3 gallons of gas or $10 each way.

Ford Man
12-28-2011, 03:51 PM
When I lived in NC and visited my parents in KY the drive was just over 500 miles. I tried driving it at 65-75 MPH and at 55 MPH. By the time you figure in having to vary speeds because of other drivers, driving faster isn't going to save you 4 hours time. When I set my c/c at 55 MPH I often drive 200+ miles and never have to disengage the c/c or change my speed, but when I drove 65-75 MPH I was constantly having to cut off the c/c because of catching up with slower traffic and resetting the c/c. Usually the difference in driving time was approximately 1-1.5 hours on the trip, which if I recall correctly was about 510 miles. I could usually make the trip in 10-10.5 hours at 55 MPH and when I tried the faster speed the trip was usually somewhere between 9-10 hours. The fastest I ever made the trip was 8.5 hours and that was driving at night when there was little traffic and was driving about 70-80 MPH.

ItsNotAboutTheMoney
12-28-2011, 04:26 PM
Yea honestly 20 bucks is not worth a 12 hour day in the truck. Sorry if that goes against the hypermiler way, ill work extra hard when i get home. I've been away too long as it is. lol

As others have mentioned
- driving at a steady rate in a single lane is less demanding on your body and mind.
- if you are having to negotiate traffic, you'll lose time to braking.

You want to get there as soon as possible, but you don't want to function poorly after you arrive. The adrenaline rush can keep you going when you first arrive, but it can take days to recover after that.

So, I'd suggest more haste, less speed and adjust to the traffic conditions to make your long drive low on stress.

EdwinTheMagnificent
12-29-2011, 09:45 AM
If I can make the trip in a day's drive (12 hrs) , I will go 50-60 mph DWL. If it is longer , I have gone mostly 70 mph , bleeding off to 55-62 up hills to avoid downshifting. The latter method gives me 44-45 MPG,the former about 50.
Only you can decide how to spend your time/money/fuel.

bomber991
12-31-2011, 06:33 PM
My tip is to drive for 4 hours, then stop, gas up, get something to eat. Then drive 4 more hours, stop, gas up, get something to eat, then drive 4 more hours and relax at your final destination. You don't really need to gas up on those breaks, but you do need some time outside of the car and you probably need to wipe off the windscreen.

herm
01-02-2012, 08:24 PM
I take so many breaks that it does not matter if I drive at 55 or 75...

drees
01-03-2012, 12:49 AM
Make 55 mph your top speed, and take US 101 instead of I-5. If you must take I-5, make 62 mph your top speed.
The problem with 101 instead of I5 is that instead of 502 miles (using suggested Google route from SD to SF) you have to drive 540 miles. I'd bet that you'd barely break even in overall fuel consumption driving 101 at 55 mph vs I5 at 62 mph.

Plus I always seem to hit some sort of traffic in Santa Barbara when I have to take that route.

I'd vote to take I5 (usually opt for 405S - always seem to hit horrible traffic on 5S through LA before it opens up) and just drive the slowest speed that you're comfortable at. Plenty of slow trucks to settle in a safe distance behind to use for pacing. Watch out for the tailgaters in the left lane when it starts packing up passing trucks - always seem to either see some near accidents or accidents due to drivers following too close and not looking far enough down the road.

SentraSE-R
01-03-2012, 01:50 AM
Update? Which way did you go, and at what speed and what fuel economy?

herm
01-03-2012, 09:00 AM
Sentra, I always wanted to ask you about that big dob that you use in your avatar..

SentraSE-R
01-03-2012, 04:46 PM
Herm, It's an 18" Pegasus mirror, f/4.2 Nightsky.

herm
01-04-2012, 12:51 PM
ohh nice mirrors.. years ago I saw details on Jupiter that compare to a Voyager picture (with the color saturation toned down) using a Pegasus mirror (I think in a Starmaster dob).. sometimes we get exceptional steady seeing in South Florida.

SentraSE-R
01-05-2012, 11:04 PM
John Hall trained Carl Zambuto, so he makes some great mirrors. Mine has a .992 Strehl ratio, and is a superb mirror.

dieselbeetle
01-08-2012, 08:14 PM
Taking my Ford Ranger home on Friday from San Francisco to San Diego (close to 600 miles). On my way up I hit an all time high of about 24 mpg. Are there any reccomendations other than the basics for such a long trip? I rarely ever drive this far so I don't know if there is anything different I should be trying. I'd love to see 30 mpg and make the drive in almost 1 tank, but I figure that would take some serious modifications. Thanks guys.

MARVEL MYSTERY OIL, trust me, dude.

set the cruise around 55.

block main part of your grill (google grill block).

unload everything you can, lighter is better.

don't use the radio or a/c.

when you do use a/c, recirculate your air.

make some cardboard air foils.

don't get caught up in stop and go traffic. transcend it by anticipating the waves. there was a really useful study done about this entitled "traffic wave experiments" by a professor at university. google it.

stick with the concurrent traffic flow. this air will assist you safely, unlike "drafting" would.

inflate tires.

disabling daytime running lights would help quite a bit, too.

keep your windows up.

lower your driver's seat as low as it will go (height-wise).

Right Lane Cruiser
01-08-2012, 10:32 PM
I'm not sure that last suggestion will help with mileage if you are in a (non-convertible) pickup truck. :p

xcel
01-30-2012, 12:59 AM
Hi All:

An extra stop or two and there goes those hours. 70 or more on Cruise does not average 70.

Our time is worth no more than anyone else’s but a needless waste of resources is a waste that never comes back.

I have been driving the I-5 at 50 to 55 mph for years and as long as you follow the rules, you are good to go. RR at all times and take it easy. An accident from 70 in your Ranger and you are dead. From 50 to 55 mph, you may even be able to avoid whatever the problem ahead is.

On our way to CA on Dec. 29th, we and hundreds of others were held up for over an hour from a ejection fatality when an SUV rolled over on the I-40 just west of Shamrock, TX. If that family had been going 55 to 60 mph instead of 75 +, they may have had a chance :(

Wayne

dieselbeetle
02-11-2012, 07:20 PM
...so...

How did this trip go anyway?



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