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Can somebody please summarize the normal "creep" behavior of the HCH1 and (2 if it differs)?

Sometimes our HCH rolls back on hills, other times not. When is it supposed to hold, and when is it supposed to roll? I have not noticed a pattern to it, but then, I don't know what all the variables are.

Also, lately a few times when "stopped" at a light when the HCH was still warming up (so no autostop) the car was creeping forward slightly even with the brake pedal pressed. To make it hold still I either had to press the brake harder, or put it in neutral. I vaguely recall reading that the creep was supposed to be disabled if the brake was pressed, and that clearly isn't always happening here. This was on perfectly flat ground, it wasn't like we were rolling forward down a hill.

Thanks.

I believe that you'll find this thread helpful:

http://www.insightcentral.net/forums/honda-insight-forum-2nd-gen-discussion/18465-question-about-brakes-hill-hold-system.html

The long and short of it is that you must use firm brake pedal pressure and be completely stopped for at least a couple of seconds. The hill hold will only work for a few seconds after you release the brake pedal.

I believe that you'll find this thread helpful:

http://www.insightcentral.net/forums/honda-insight-forum-2nd-gen-discussion/18465-question-about-brakes-hill-hold-system.html

The long and short of it is that you must use firm brake pedal pressure and be completely stopped for at least a couple of seconds. The hill hold will only work for a few seconds after you release the brake pedal.

OK, but is it normal for the car to "creep" like a regular automatic when the brake is pressed? (Clearly it is supposed to do this when the brake is released, that isn't the question here.) A regular automatic does that because the torque converter is still transmitting force from the motor, albeit weakly, whereas it takes an active application of pressure to the start clutch to get the same effect on an HCH. This is separate from the hill holding function, which is, AFAIK, solely a brake function.

That I can't answer…

You're not alone. Mine creeps too when the engine is idling high from a warm up or battery recal. Nothing worry about.

Jess