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Right Lane Cruiser
05-09-2011, 08:14 AM
Welcome to another week in the Grind!

After touching a high of $4.01 last week, the national average for a gallon of regular gas is back down to $3.97.

I had planned to come into today but my boss's father is in the Mayo Clinic so I need to cover one of his late afternoon meetings -- the one that occurs when I'm normally on my way home. Please keep him in your prayers!

LinuxGold
05-09-2011, 08:28 AM
Sean, will do!

Back to home last Friday
69F 5S (tail) clear
80.9/19.2 mi (woo woo, new record, was 80.7 / 20.3 mi using different route)

To work this morning
57F 3N (tail) clear:

74.1/18.6 mi

Tank is now down to 71 / 356 miles (5.01 gallons used)

PaleMelanesian
05-09-2011, 09:07 AM
I'm back in the grind.

74.9 / 12.9 to school and work this morning. Temps ~72F.

LinuxGold
05-09-2011, 09:10 AM
Welcome back Andrew!

groar
05-09-2011, 09:31 AM
Keep your good work Scott :thumbs_up:

Andrew, did you have fun last week ?

After a few though about my driving, I realized that I changed my driving during the previous tank. Now with the hotter temps and the new air filter, I'm :

using DWL at lowest speed on all uphills, even the one with a small inclination. Before I was pulsing on these small inclination uphills.
up-shifting as soon as the engine allows it. I can shift up to 5th at 50km/h (31mph) even on small inclination uphills.


As my last two tanks got same result and my current tank seamed to aim to the same result, I decided to :

pulse again on small inclination uphills and
up-shift to nth gear at 11*n km/h (6.84*n mph) instead of 10*n km/h (6.22*n mph), ie 5th at 55km/h instead of 50 (34mph instead of 31). I remember Andrew saying such a change was making him save a few mpg. Definitively this one is making my accelerations much faster.


It seams that since Wednesday the gauge needle is lowering more slowly. At least I'm having a better result as I'm at 1577.7km and the idiot light is always off, which means 71+mpg :cool: last being 70, but always far from the 74 needed to beat Andrew :(

Have fun,

Denis.

gdsmit1
05-09-2011, 09:59 AM
Morning all.

I just got my Ultragauge on Saturday and used it for the first time this morning. I haven't customized it yet except to get rid of TTE and replaced it with % engine load. I also haven't filled up yet, so it isn't calibrated.

Unfortunately I'm still not in the habit of keeping track of my mileage each morning and afternoon when I get home. It was in the 42-ish range.

Do you guys keep the daily numbers written down in a log? Or just post them here?

lxmike
05-09-2011, 10:30 AM
I had an appointment at teh eye doctor so i took trhe escort to give it a lil run and now back home. no number casue the SG is in Syvlie now.


gds: on our insights (Sean, Larry and Me) we have 3 seperate trip logs in our dash we can use. I use the segment for daily and trip a for my tank numbers. I keep a lil notepad to write down my daily numbers to post here.

Welcome back Andrew! Gonna trade in the honda for a fiesta now? :p

PaleMelanesian
05-09-2011, 10:39 AM
Probably not trading in the Civic, at least for a Fiesta. It's ... cozy. It's a B-class compared to my C-class. Cars in general have gotten bigger, so it's maybe a 1/2 size smaller. Still enough to be cramped for my 6'2" frame. At least the headroom is decent, even in the back. The left front seat is definitely the best of the bunch, though. The most notable dimensional squeeze is the width.

MPG is not quite up to the standard either. Best segment of the trip was ~75 or so mpg. I handily matched that on my drive home from the airport, including a 1/2 hour stop and crawl through Dallas downtown.

rhwinger
05-09-2011, 11:01 AM
Hey Wayne, you should follow me into work for a tour more often! In all the excitement I forgot to mention it was a 75.5 mpg 30 mile segment!:flag:

Thanks,

Bob

LinuxGold
05-09-2011, 11:14 AM
To lunch
66F 9N (head) clear
69.7/1.8 mi

Back to work
68F 9N (tail) clear
86.1/2.0 mi

Tank is down a bit to 71 mpg @ 360 miles.

Bob (rhwinger) you fly an airplane? Is it Cessna 180?
I am currently inactive student pilot on Piper Cherokee 140B, 22 hours logged.
Tried to "hypermile" on an airplane yet? =)

groar
05-10-2011, 02:00 AM
The guessgauge is playing with me...

Yesterday evening I parked the car at home @1626.6km with the idiot light off :)
The cool thing is I passed 1000mi before the idiot light switches on, ie 52L = 13.74gal :)
This morning I started the car but the idiot light stayed on :( When I parked it at work @1664.9km the idiot light was off :) During all my morning commute it switched on/off...

With 1626.6km the tank is @3.197L/100 = 73.6MPG
With 1664.9km the tank is @3.123L/100 = 75.3MPG = my all time record (@74.918MPG)
With the average, ie 1645.75km the tank is @3.160L/100 = 74.4MPG

To stay at the safe side, I should simply take 1626.6km, extrapolate to 60L and drive at most 1876.8km = 1166.5mi
But... :o
My last tank was 61.09L which @3.197L/100 would be 1910.9km = 1187.6mi
Wayne's diesel record is 1174.6mi (@84.291MPG), while mine is 1182.2mi (@74.918MPG)... So tempting... :o
During the end of last tank several times the car rev up @2000rpm instead of 1100 while idle. It may be a signal to indicate the tank is nearly empty.
I repeat to me that my 2nd best is 1134.4mi @72.347MPG and I will beat it, I'm so temped to beat my best...

Morning commute was partly bad as people are back from holidays and there was also more trucks, which are making me drive faster to their PSL when I see they can't pass me.

One thing is certain : this evening I have to put the jerrycan back into the trunk.

Have fun,

Denis.

diamondlarry
05-10-2011, 04:01 AM
Oops!:o I posted this in last weeks thread.:o
Yesterday 5:00pm:
Not too bad today...considering. Temps ranged from 46F this morning to 69F this afternoon. Winds were SE@ 10-15 mph with gusts to 40 mph. So basically, the whole 15.9 mile afternoon segment was into a 45* headwind....and the 6.9 mile segment was not.
88.3 9.1(to work)
78.4 15.9(work to daughter's school via home)
109.9 6.7(school to home)
Day Total: 86.4mpg over 31.7mi

gdsmit1
05-10-2011, 06:38 AM
Filled up for the first time with the Ultragauge, that's the first part of calibrating it.

According to my un-calibrated UG, this morning's commute was:
40.1 miles at 47.8 MPG.

Last tank was slightly less than the previous one, I came in at 38.2 vs. the 38.6 for the previous tank. I'm thinking that the difference could be the "top off." This time the 2nd click came almost immediately, last time it ran for a couple seconds before clicking off.

Right Lane Cruiser
05-10-2011, 06:46 AM
Go, Denis, go!! :D

Sorry about the wind, Larry. It gets bad this time of year for some reason.

Good to see you posting here, GDSmit1!! :thumbs_up:

I do certainly love warmer weather!! I got stopped at a majority of the lights on my route this morning but still turned in an okay result. :)

54F, 10mph crosswind from the E, partly cloudy:


105.0mpg for 15.0mi (Home to work)

The tank is steady at 101.7mpg over 588.8mi with 17 of 20 bars remaining on the fuel gauge.

LinuxGold
05-10-2011, 07:42 AM
Good morning to everyone. Everything seems to be lively recently, keep it up, keep hypermiling!

To home yesterday
70F 5N (head) clear:
73.6/19.2 mi

To work today
56F 2N (tail) clear:
75.9/18.6 mi

Tank is now up to 71.3 mpg @ 398 miles.

PaleMelanesian
05-10-2011, 08:33 AM
This is what happens when the weather is good and you just finished a solid week of hypermiling :D:

89.4 / 10.5 home last night. Temps 90+
79.5 / 12.9 to school and work this morning. Temps ~75

The tank is up to 73.3 / 455 miles and ~3/4 on the gauge.

LinuxGold
05-10-2011, 08:47 AM
Andrew,

That is a GOOD tank!! Mine is 71.3 mpg on the guessgauge, 398 miles and little lower than 1/2 on the gauge.

groar
05-10-2011, 09:16 AM
Scott, good work :thumbs_up:

Andrew, is it great to get your car back ?
Hope you wont improve your current tank too much so I may pass you before the end of the challenge ;)

Sean, I hoped you was going to calm me down and not encourage me to go beyond sane limits :confused: but I'm motivated to skyrocket my 2011 results beyond my best 2010 ones :p

Larry, 100mpg one day, soon 100mpg every day ;)

Have fun,

Denis, time to go home back.

Right Lane Cruiser
05-10-2011, 09:31 AM
Hey, as long as you have backup (that jerrycan!) why not go for it? :D

shiNIN
05-10-2011, 11:19 AM
but I'm motivated to skyrocket my 2011 results beyond my best 2010 ones :p
This is a healthy attitude, isn't it? :D

Well I got my driving licence a year ago, I have room for improvement :D
Surpassing my best result this far is totally possible, I do even FAS nowadays :p

Hi people I didn't ride this week yet but I have to come here now and then :)
Bikers here in Hungary are annoyed because weekend and good weather aren't in good terms recently. I can ride any day so it's not so bad for me.

LinuxGold
05-10-2011, 12:26 PM
To Lunch
68F 2N (head) clear:
78.3/1.8 mi

Back to work
94.3/1.8 mi

Tank is now up to 71.5 mpg @ 401 miles.

Right Lane Cruiser
05-10-2011, 03:51 PM
I FINALLY get some really nice temperatures to work with... and get faced with stiff winds and everyone apparently celebrating Nascar Appreciation Day. :p

Oh well. Onward and upward!

78F, 11-19mph cross/tailwind from the ESE, mostly cloudy:


105.9mpg for 15.4mi (Work to home)

The tank is still steady at 101.7mpg over 604.2mi with 17 of 20 bars remaining on the fuel gauge.

Day Total: 105.2mpg over 30.4mi

groar
05-10-2011, 04:19 PM
I have to verify I didn't took the lawn mower gasoline jerrycan ;)
Verification... OK, the gasoline jerrycan is near to the lawn mower and I don't remember having a third jerrycan :)

I have to calculate how to reach the 1880-1900km from here to Ze gas station with my next long/short commutes to minimize the distance to Ze gas station when I'll reach the danger zone.
Searching... not very OK, I have to take the shortest commute only, which is the one with the more traffic so I will have to leave home and work sooner in the morning and evening :( but beating its own record in April-May is priceless :p

Denis.

lxmike
05-10-2011, 04:43 PM
Go Denis Go!!:Banane57:

Nice temps today helped me with my numbers as u will see.

81.5 - 7.0 to work. 73 degrees at 7am is nice and helped me get over 80 on my trip to work

90.9 - 5.0 miles home. 91 degrees when i left work. my right foot is getting more n more steady and able to keep in Lean burn longer and higher rate also 125+ at times.


tank sitting at 369 miles 12 bars on the fuel guage.


Correction 13 bars on fuel guage. It's hard for me to count them so i take a quick pic with my digital cam and use my wii to view and enlarge and can count them easier. :o:p

diamondlarry
05-10-2011, 05:00 PM
I FINALLY get some really nice temperatures to work with... and get faced with stiff winds and everyone apparently celebrating Nascar Appreciation Day. :p

Oh well. Onward and upward!

78F, 11-19mph cross/tailwind from the ESE, mostly cloudy:


105.9mpg for 15.4mi (Work to home)

The tank is still steady at 101.7mpg over 604.2mi with 17 of 20 bars remaining on the fuel gauge.

Day Total: 105.2mpg over 30.4mi

Nice! It seems your weather was nearly identical to what we had here. It was also 78F here and the wind was also from ESE@ 5-15 mph with gusts to 25+ mph. I tried a new route on the way home from my daughter's school. It was slightly longer but the traffic was lighter and the hill/topography was arranged a bit better for that direction. Temp this morning was 60F and winds were somewhat lighter but from the same direction. I think it's a keeper.;):D
97.7 9.0(to work)
81.3 15.8(work to daughter's school via home)
126.6 8.0(school to home)
Day Total: 93.8mpg over 32.8mi

gdsmit1
05-11-2011, 05:59 AM
I'm not in the mindset yet to track each trip, so for now will stick with the tank mileage.

According to my non-calibrated UG, the current tank is sitting at 44.0 mpg after 169 miles. That's down from my morning commute yesterday. But that's because the first 10 miles in the morning are windy hills and I filled up after those yesterday. I should be filling up early next week and calibrate the UG.

Right Lane Cruiser
05-11-2011, 07:56 AM
Hi, Greg -- go at your own pace but remember that the real improvements occur when you track what works and doesn't work on a trip by trip basis. If you don't, the numbers vary less and less as you accumulate miles and you really aren't much better off than you were without a gauge in the first place.

I'm working from home again as my boss is still dealing with his father's treatments. It doesn't sound as though things are going very well so keep the prayers coming!

LinuxGold
05-11-2011, 08:22 AM
To Home yesterday
74F 3S (tail) clear:
77.6/19 mi

To work this morning
54F 4E (cross/head) clear:
68.5/18.6 mi

Tank is now up to 71.6 mpg @ 439 miles.

FSUspectra
05-11-2011, 08:27 AM
In Orlando/Kissimmee this week with family... I'll probably be keeping some sort of track of numbers, and may or may not post them, but they probably won't be too great. The resort is pretty large so that you'd want to drive. The shuttle is an option, but it's just a big loop shuttle around the property. I'll have to check it out.

Happy hypermiling! :)

PaleMelanesian
05-11-2011, 08:42 AM
75.1 / 10 mi - to pharmacy then home, less than ideal routes.
71.7 / 13.1 - school and work this morning

The tank is steady at 73.3 and now 479 miles. Below 3/4 but above 1/2 on the guess-gauge.

PaleMelanesian
05-11-2011, 08:46 AM
A big black truck was tailgating me and did the "W" hand sign when he took the other road at a Y split. Not 10 seconds later he had red and blue flashing in his rearview. I guess he had been speeding until I was in his way. Thank you, Officer!

groar
05-11-2011, 10:27 AM
I have been passed in a round about by a learning car. As there was no passenger the driver had to be an instructor. I just got time to read "eco-conduite" (eco-driving) on the side of the car and it disappeared in a black smoke cloud I received in my face :mad:

odo at 1833km = 1139mi and driving... No fill-up before 1881km = 1169mi :) Will see tomorrow if I have guts to beat Wayne's (again ;) 1175mi) or my record (1182mi)... depending if I see "high rev at idle" moments or not.

Have fun,

Denis.

PaleMelanesian
05-11-2011, 10:35 AM
"you can do eet!"

LinuxGold
05-11-2011, 10:41 AM
Denis, keep up!! :woot:

diamondlarry
05-11-2011, 04:06 PM
Not as good as yesterday due to the route I had to take home from the errands after picking up my daughter.:( I had to go through 2 miles of city-like traffic. Temps ranged from 55F this morning to 84F this afternoon. Winds were SE@ 10-15 mph with gusts to 20 mph.
94.3 9.2(to work)
86.0 18.1(work to Martin's Supermarket with stops at my daughter's school and gas station for gas for mower)
101.7 8.4(Martin's to home)
Day Total: 91.4mpg over 35.7mi

Tomorrow is my higher-speed day to get to daughter's lesson in time. I have an idea to improve the trip to the lesson but the trip from work to home will be a bear as they are forecasting t-storms for tomorrow afternoon.:(

lxmike
05-11-2011, 04:54 PM
Arrgggg got the dreaded ima light this morning :(:( at first i though was another recal cause soc dropped down to 4 bars and had 4-5 bars of regen that the calpod couldn't cacel out. Then slowly started up and topepd off at 20 bars and lit the naughty light.

72.6 going to work. the "event" this morning dragged my numbers down. I had 70+ showing a mile from my house but couldn't get much higher.

79.8 coming home. warmer temps helped here



Now for good news: the battery pack my friend bought came in and tommorrow we're gonna start digging in. He didn't tell me it was from a civic hybrid and he was thinking we could replace mine with it and go through my old battery but there not interchangable. we can use the sticks and thats the road we're gonna take.
I think between 40 sticks we can " find" 20 good ones! :p

Denis what about 1900 km? ;)

Die2self
05-11-2011, 08:20 PM
sorry been busy after work the last couple of nights

Monday
27.1 / 28.7 miles (super strong winds from the ssw)
Also dropped by car dealer to see color choices

Tuesday
26.6 / 26.6 miles (super strong winds from the ssw again)
Stopped by the Honda dealer and signed paper work to order a Silver Honda Fit (Base) MT. ETA start of July:( but that is what I want and I can't get one with in 4.5 hours of me

today
27.6 / 26.4 miles (light winds this morning and strong south winds again ahead of a front)

Tank is just above 6/8 with 164.8 miles driven on it (~25.8 MPG)

Die2self
05-11-2011, 08:23 PM
we were trying to get this one to trade but the dealer only wanted another base fit from the dealer here (he has no other base fits). So, even if we wanted to drive the long, not sure I would want o give him my business for being so stingy.

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=newcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listingId=65286594&listingRecNum=1&criteria=prMx%3D16000%26sf1Dir%3DASC%26prMn%3D0%26mkId%3D20017%26stkTyp%3DN%26mdId%3D21128%26rd%3D250%26crSrtFlds%3DfeedSegId-mkId-mdId-pseudoPrice-transTypeId-stkTypId%26zc%3D64801%26rn%3D0%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26stkTypId%3D28880%26sf2Dir%3DDESC%26sf1Nm%3Dlocation%26sf2Nm%3Dprice%26transTypeId%3D28112%26rpp%3D50%26feedSegId%3D28705&aff=national

Right Lane Cruiser
05-11-2011, 08:58 PM
Congratulations on your new "soon" to arrive vehicle!! I think you will be very happy with it and I'm certain you'll be pulling quite impressive numbers not long after delivery. :)

groar
05-12-2011, 01:56 AM
Drive to work this morning without "high rev at idle" moment :)

As yesterday I left home 10 minutes sooner and got higher traffic through the short commute than through the longer one I use. In fact this may have helped me as the traffic was slower but made me downshift to 4th only a few times. I got longer glides also because I pumped up the tires to 4 bars from 3.7 (58 psi from 54) Wednesday :)

as odo @1862km, guesstimate of consumption is @3.28L/100 = 71.8mpg = 232% :)

Even if I don't go up to 1903km = 1183mi, at least I will have left the sub 70 mpg and validated that :

I shouldn't shift up so soon. 55km/h seams better than 50km/h (34 / 31mph) to shift up to 5th
I shouldn't dwl on light incline uphills. Pulsing on the uphills seams better when I know that dwl wouldn't make the car accelerate frankly at the top of that hill.


I want now to be over 75mpg soon, then 3.0L/100 (78.4mpg and 2000km = 1243mi tank) and 83.3mpg (equiv to a kilotank with a 12 gal tank) this summer.

Have fun,

Denis.

LinuxGold
05-12-2011, 07:35 AM
To work this morning
52F 1NE (cross/head) scattered clouds:
66.3/18.6 mi

Tank is now 71.7 mpg @ 477 miles.

Right Lane Cruiser
05-12-2011, 07:42 AM
I'm working from home again today as I've got a morning doctor's appointment.

Denis, what is your RPM right before you upshift? You're doing a fantastic job!! :woot:

groar
05-12-2011, 08:54 AM
"you can do eet!"

Filled-up after lunch.

Who can I do eat ?

Wayne (1174.6mi) : done :p for the second time :cool:
Myself (1182.2mi) : done :eek:


1182.5mi @ 74.27mpg

Sean, thanks :)
When I have shifted up to 5th at 50km/h, I must be at around 1100rpm as for other gears. While I can accelerate from 850rpm in 2nd very easily, in 5th @1100rpm it's more tricky.
Usual eco-driving tips says to shift up @2000rpm for a diesel. The single time I heard another thing is to shift up so in the new gear the engine is @1250rpm, not under.

Denis.

PaleMelanesian
05-12-2011, 09:47 AM
Very nice! You beat my 1133, again.
Usual eco-driving tips says to shift up @2000rpm for a diesel. The single time I heard another thing is to shift up so in the new gear the engine is @1250rpm, not under.

I follow that second line myself. 1400 rpm is the best lower limit in my car, but with your diesel you can likely take it lower. Whatever you're doing seems to work. ;)

LinuxGold
05-12-2011, 09:49 AM
Denis,

Teach me O master.... =)

Good job!

PaleMelanesian
05-12-2011, 09:51 AM
Home with some sick family. :( Took my daughter to school and came back home for ~70 mpg / 10 miles.

LinuxGold
05-12-2011, 09:54 AM
Andrew,

:( hope family will get better soon.

FSUspectra
05-12-2011, 09:56 AM
Hope everyone gets well soon, Andrew. :(

BTW, that flash drive will be in the mail early next week, wasn't able to mail it out before I left.

groar
05-12-2011, 10:22 AM
Scott, I got great results as soon as I disconnected my p...s (5 letters word, but not "Prius") and began to drive with my brain ;) :p :rolleyes:

Andrew, your best MPG is 82.394, while mine is only 74.918... In CO2 point of view, this is 68.5 g/km vs 83.5 ie +21.9% :o (ok I should be :) , but being :mad: makes me better :cool: )

Denis, abusing smileys once again :(

Right Lane Cruiser
05-12-2011, 11:30 AM
Very nice indeed, Denis!! You've left my 1111.9mi well and truly in the dust. :D

Andrew, it's never nice to have sick family members. :( I hope everyone is well again soon!

diamondlarry
05-12-2011, 07:41 PM
Very interesting results today. Today was my higher speed/time crunch day to get my daughter to voice lessons on time. Temps ranged from 60F this morning to 87F this afternoon. Winds were SSW@ 5-10 mph with gusts to 20 mph. The trip home from work was @ 55 mph and I was only able to manage 67.4 mpg. The trip to voice lessons was @ 55-60 with a peak speed of 63 for a brief time on the US-20 Bypass where the PSL is 65. That trip yielded a surprising 86.0 mpg for that speed. Then, the trip home on country/county roads yielded a disappointing 80.7 mpg. I think this was partially due to some unruly traffic and the headwind.:(
98.4 9.2(home to work)
67.4 9.1(work to home)
86.0 17.4(home to voice lessons)
80.7 18.1(back home)
Day Total: 82.1mpg over 53.8mi

PaleMelanesian
05-13-2011, 08:47 AM
Back at work. The wife and child #2 are somewhat improved. Some kind of tummy bug. :( Thanks for all the sympathies.

71.5 mpg / 11.4 miles to school and work this morning. Cooler (64F) and a detour - police blocking the road with flashing lights. No idea why. :confused:

The tank is at 73.4 / 529 miles.

Right Lane Cruiser
05-13-2011, 01:52 PM
I'm glad they are feeling better!

I'm working from home again as I was up until about 2AM this morning working on a high profile data extract and interpretation requested by top of the IT chain of command. I had a full morning and have just now eaten...

My boss' father is in pretty good condition right now considering what he had to go through but they've still got to get him down to Chicago for the experimental treatment that is pretty much his last hope for life expectancy measured in years.

lxmike
05-13-2011, 06:13 PM
well we tried using the stick from the civic pack no dice. i cleared the ima light but came right back on so we shut it down and did some head scratching. i asked and he told me it had bene sitting about 5-6 week, so now we need to get a charge into it. would the sticks still show being charged? when we check they was all about 7.5 Volts 1-2 was maybe 7.2-7.3 V


The bcm is unplugged and car running on 12V only now. My brother says "now it's not a hybrid" :( the 12v started sound funny so now gonan chance it with f.a.s'ing any so number down to around tank average.


74- 7.1 mile to work

80.3- 6.0 miles home. weather helped here also. There are 2 big red light i always end up at but today the timign was right and caught both going red as i coming up so i was happy for that.

Tank sitting at 75.2- 395 miles 11-12 bars on fuel guage.

Right Lane Cruiser
05-13-2011, 09:07 PM
Mike, that pack needs a nice long charging session to get all the cells topped up and balanced. Swapping sticks is always a tricky business… especially without proper equipment to test capacity. The voltage can show normal but just like lead acid batteries they can quickly drop to nothing under load.

diamondlarry
05-13-2011, 09:20 PM
Today was a bit better for FE in the Insight.:) Temps ranged from 62F this morning to 85F this afternoon. I didn't have as much of a time crunch this afternoon so the numbers were a little better than they have been. The morning numbers seem to be steadily improving too.:)
99.1 9.2(to work)
90.4 9.2(back home)
Day Total: 94.6mpg over 18.4mi

alvaro84
05-14-2011, 02:59 PM
After a 4 day hiatus I rode to work again (I'm on holiday but I was called back for this one night...).

In the meantime I accidentally got a GPS. I tried to test Teresa's tripmeter accuracy, but it's a fail for now, the software I downloaded for my new phone (the earlier is practically dead, it was 6 years old) literally leaks distance... so it measured the 25+km way as 13.6km. Then, after I took off my gloves and helmet, it showed 12.1... :rolleyes:
So I went ~ minus one mile while I was standing in a parking lot. Brilliant. I need some other software...



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