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Chuck
12-27-2009, 12:06 PM
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/AmericanFlag.jpg Jameson's license was suspended for drug possession by a minor....marijuana was in his Hummer (http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=11732884)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/h2_cobalt_wreck.jpgNEWS9 (http://www.news9.com) - Dec 26, 2009

The collision was covered at SUVs are safer: Distracted H2 veers into wrong lane and kills all 3 in Cobalt (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27839) --Ed.

The 20-year-old driver of a Hummer involved in a fatality accident Thursday that left a Sand Springs family dead was arrested shortly after the wreck.

Steven Wade Jameson of Stillwater was booked into the Tulsa jail on complaints of possession of marijuana (first offense) and driving with a canceled license.... http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=11732884

Chuck
12-27-2009, 12:34 PM
In Oklahoma, the average fine for vehicular manslaughter is $500-1000, 2-3yrs jail time, 1-2yrs probation. Since he has had prior substance problems and multiple counts, it's will be harsher, although it looks like it will be less than ten years based on this info. :(

JusBringIt
12-27-2009, 02:15 PM
No reckless driving? No negligence? no permanent ban on driver license??


so i guess no punishment...

Chuck
12-27-2009, 02:25 PM
Wonder what he could be facing with vehicular manslaughter, possession of drugs, DUI, and other charges?

I'm not too optimistic for the victims in court when I read this: Killing 2 Cyclists while on pot & booze: 2yrs prison - 10yrs probation (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27657&highlight=prairie)

GardenWeasel
12-27-2009, 02:50 PM
Kinda makes me wish for a good lynching in his family's yard... with all the neighbors attending. BTW - what ever happened with tar-and-feathers for undesirables? :eyebrow:

Butterfly Mage
12-27-2009, 04:55 PM
The family of the victims should consider a super-duty wrongful death lawsuit. The specter of him getting 80% of his future earnings attached for the rest of his life just might wipe that smirk off his face.

chibougamoo
12-27-2009, 05:14 PM
Perhaps someone should look into any "enablers" as well. I wonder if a 20 year old was able to finance his own car, or whether some doting parent gave in to his perceived need (or just as bad, loaned the kid one of the parent's vehicles). In either of THESE cases, then the parents SHOULD have some culpability, too --- they handed a loaded weapon to someone who had SHOWN that he couldn't/shouldn't have access to the keys to that weapon.

Tis the season to be jolly ...

Chuck
12-27-2009, 05:23 PM
Perhaps someone should look into any "enablers" as well. I wonder if a 20 year old was able to finance his own car, or whether some doting parent gave in to his perceived need (or just as bad, loaned the kid one of the parent's vehicles). In either of THESE cases, then the parents SHOULD have some culpability, too --- they handed a loaded weapon to someone who had SHOWN that he couldn't/shouldn't have access to the keys to that weapon.

Tis the season to be jolly ...Soon we will have the "Thank post" option....that's what I'm doing :)

Bruce
12-27-2009, 06:17 PM
no permanent ban on driver license??

This has never been a nation of personal responsibility for motor vehicle operators...gotta go to Europe for that.

GardenWeasel
12-27-2009, 06:40 PM
BTW, Bubba that he shares his cell with will take care of his smirk... the only drugs he'll be asking for are hormones to keep Bubba happy.

echoman
12-27-2009, 08:49 PM
This has never been a nation of personal responsibility for motor vehicle operators...gotta go to Europe for that.

Theres not enough personal responsibility for anything anymore.

I think the drugs are the lest of the problems here. Suspended licence, and the fact that he kill people, are much more serious.

NiHaoMike
12-27-2009, 11:09 PM
Lock him up in a room with nothing else and let him die a painful death.

Chuck
01-03-2010, 11:13 AM
Tulsa, OK - The brother of a man killed in a car crash on Christmas Eve is urging drivers to use caution on our roads.

Michael and Angie Mulanax and their 18-year-old son James were killed in a car crash on Highway 51 near Sand Springs last Thursday.

The family had just finished wrapping Christmas presents and were headed to visit family when they were hit head-on by a Hummer that crossed into their lane.

Today, Michael's brother reflected on how quickly life can change.

"I think it's important that people take the time to realize family is important, but also you have to watch out for the other people on the road. It's just sad this happened the way it did," says Charles Mulanax.

Steven Jameson was driving that Hummer. He told police he was distracted by his dog in the backseat. When he turned around he had crossed into oncoming traffic.

Jameson was arrested for drug possession and driving with a suspended license. He is free on bail.

JusBringIt
01-03-2010, 12:33 PM
He is free on bail.

...I am in utter disbelief...

lightfoot
01-03-2010, 12:43 PM
"He is free on bail." The fact that he had been driving for two years (apparently) without a license was considered of minor consequence, and that he might continue to drive (badly) and kill even more people was of little concern.

Oof.

Chuck
01-24-2010, 12:04 AM
Last fall, Texas upgraded a law that makes distracted driving with a cell phone (and maybe a case like this) punishable by criminally negligent homicide - 2-10 years.

Chuck
05-01-2010, 08:26 PM
Prosecutoes said Steven Jameson is charged with the deaths of a Sand Springs family on Christmas Eve....

Jameson is charged with three counts of first-degree manslaughter, drug possession and driving without a license.

He has a bond hearing Monday afternoon.

Chuck
12-31-2010, 01:42 PM
They picked a new judge to hear the trial.

Maybe it will start early 2011?

http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=13664969

freezin4
12-31-2010, 07:32 PM
They picked a new judge to hear the trial.http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=13664969

No need. Some members of this forum have already judged and sentenced him in addition to bringing new and unfounded accusations. (questioning the decision to permit bail, suggesting tar and feather, life behind bars, life behind bars WITH BUBBA, DUI charge?, speculating that his parents are implicit because they may have helped him buy an SUV....etc...) Wow!

No doubt this is a senseless loss of a family and we all feel some rage over that.....and the 20 year old may be guilty of driving with a suspended/cancelled license, but how about civility, and the presumtion of innocence until proven guilty? I know it looks damning for the guy because he had marijuana in his car, but did that contribute to this tragedy?

Contrary to what some people on this forum may believe, ownership of an SUV is NOT a crime in the US.

YOMV (Your Opinion May Vary), luckily we have due process.

Chuck
12-31-2010, 07:57 PM
No need. Some members of this forum have already judged and sentenced him in addition to bringing new and unfounded accusations. (questioning the decision to permit bail, suggesting tar and feather, life behind bars, life behind bars WITH BUBBA, DUI charge?, speculating that his parents are implicit because they may have helped him buy an SUV....etc...) Wow!

No doubt this is a senseless loss of a family and we all feel some rage over that.....and the 20 year old may be guilty of driving with a suspended/cancelled license, but how about civility, and the presumtion of innocence until proven guilty? I know it looks damning for the guy because he had marijuana in his car, but did that contribute to this tragedy?

Contrary to what some people on this forum may believe, ownership of an SUV is NOT a crime in the US.

YOMV (Your Opinion May Vary), luckily we have due process.....and you are suggesting free speech and opinions should be forbidden? Are you confusing me for a jury member?

I'm not on the jury and can't since I don't live in that county in Oklahoma. But it made news because most of a family was killed last Christmas by a driver irresponsible on multiple levels:

- driving with a suspended license
- had marijuana and may have been high, which is absolutely relevant to the crash
- not driving slow enough in a winter storm - how else could he jump the median and rollover?
- was distracted - should have had the dog restrained

Driving a $50,000 vehicle is not a crime, but few of us when we were 20 could afford anything like that. Even if my parents had the means to throw me the keys to a $50,000 set of wheels, I would HAVE to have a good driving record.

It is ironic that a huge offroading vehicle crashed so tragically.

For the record, we have had threads on other fatality wrecks that were not caused by SUV's - the lipstick killer in Chicagoland comes to mind.

Check out Keith Bradsher's book The High and the Mighty - he talks about the dangers of teens and young adults driving 6000-pound vehicles. Suggesting our members calling out dangerously reckless drivers politically incorrect as if it's racist or like a hate crime is a bit twisted.

Blackbelt
01-01-2011, 09:26 AM
....and you are suggesting free speech and opinions should be forbidden? Are you confusing me for a jury member?

I'm not on the jury and can't since I don't live in that county in Oklahoma. But it made news because most of a family was killed last Christmas by a driver irresponsible on multiple levels:

- driving with a suspended license
- had marijuana and may have been high, which is absolutely relevant to the crash
- not driving slow enough in a winter storm - how else could he jump the median and rollover?
- was distracted - should have had the dog restrained

Driving a $50,000 vehicle is not a crime, but few of us when we were 20 could afford anything like that. Even if my parents had the means to throw me the keys to a $50,000 set of wheels, I would HAVE to have a good driving record.

It is ironic that a huge offroading vehicle crashed so tragically.

For the record, we have had threads on other fatality wrecks that were not caused by SUV's - the lipstick killer in Chicagoland comes to mind.

Check out Keith Bradsher's book The High and the Mighty - he talks about the dangers of teens and young adults driving 6000-pound vehicles. Suggesting our members calling out dangerously reckless drivers politically incorrect as if it's racist or like a hate crime is a bit twisted.

Well said Chuck.

Chuck
01-01-2011, 10:02 AM
I've finally figured out the pattern of flamebaits like this one - he joined last April and made a few posts, then made a few more this week. Screams like this tend to be from infrequent posters, most often it's a response to an article and they expect us to post as if their opinion is the only one that matters - more than the daily members.

While the fact it was an H2 gave this story more views, had it been another vehicle it still would have been news, just like the lipstick killer near Chicago.

Ironically yesterday I saw someone lurking at this thread so I decided to do an update on the 1st anniversary without injecting an opinion on that post.



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