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Does anyone believe the FE numbers GM is claiming with all their new auto's? For instance the new 340 hp Camero at 42 mpg and the Malibu gets 52 mpg. :Banane45: Hal

I haven't seen the ads to which you refer. Are they GM corporate ads, or local ads from random dealers? While watching the later this spring, I found the later to be almost entirely fiction, not even close to EPA Highway numbers.

Hi Harold:

___Did you see this on a spoof or something as GM would not advertise anything but EPA under any and all circumstances unless they held some kind of record or something? We know they do not hold anything like that ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

...and Canadian figures are doubly exaggerated.

Hi Scandinavian Gigolo:

___Transport Canada uses our 1985 - 2007 EPA figures as the basis for their ratings.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I see the adds every day on TV. I'm not sure who pays for these adds, but I would think GM dealers? They even claim to have the most FE SUV! How can they get away with this type of advertising unless it is true! These claims are way off base? Must be our lax advertising rules here in Canada allowing them to deceive people? Hal

Maybe Ford should start advertising the fusion as 100mpg imperial gallons :D.

This is so typical of marketing hype.

For the benefit of those not familiar with the background, here's a bit of history:

Canada supposedly adopted the metric system more than 30 years ago. Our gasoline is sold by the litre, and our speeds/distances are measured in kilometres.

GM and others like to use the outdated miles per imperial gallon - highway (only) in their advertising. (The imperial gallon is 20% larger than the US gallon). They never mention the 'city' ratings which for many owners would tend to be the more relevant figure.

As Wayne mentioned earlier, the fuel economy ratings in Canada are based on the previous EPA methods converted to the metric equivalent (expressed as litres/100 km).

So here we have advertising claims based on the now outdated US EPA methods and using a method of measurement which has been obsolete in Canada for over 30 years!! Says a lot about the mindset of our car companies and their opinion of the customers' intelligence, doesn't it?

Unfortunately this is just the 'tip of the iceberg' related to the mixed-up use of the metric system in Canada. Many retail prices are still quoted in feet, pounds, etc. but labels must show the metric measures (in 2 languages). A jug of motor oil, for example, may be sold as 3.78 litres but it's really a US gallon container relabelled for sale in Canada. A trip to a grocery store here can be a real challenge even for a numerically literate person; but that's another story!

Cheers,

Roger

In the US, many GM advertisement push "HIGHER MPG" (highway) against a competitor's specific model, usually Asian.

Have not noticed Ford doing this.

Where did you get those numbers? I haven't seen anything like that.
GL