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http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/2010_Golf_GTI.jpgWayne Gerdes – CleanMPG (cleanmpg.com) – April 9, 2009

2010 VW Golf TDI (GTI shown) – A possible 36 mpgUS combined.

NEW YORK, NY -- The all-new Golf made its US debut at the 2009 New York International Auto Show this past week and not a moment to soon.

With the sixth generation Golf’s just announced “World Car of the Year (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21079)” adding to its illustrious history, the US will soon enjoy driving one of VW’s iconic models.

Featuring an all-new exterior, improved interior and amenities, the sixth generation Golf can also be purchased with the optional 140 HP and 236 Lb-Ft of torque; ULEV rated 2.0L TDI turbo-diesel. With the standard six-speed MT or optional six-speed DSG dual clutch AT, the 2.0L mill will allow the 2,930 pound Golf to achieve 0 - 60 in 8.6 seconds while offering its owner up to a guesstimate of 43 mpgUS.

On the active occupant safety front, the all-new Golf will not only include standard front, side and side curtains, it will be offered with a first in its class, side airbags for rear seat passengers.

The US based 2010 Golf will appear in VW dealership showrooms this fall.

Wayne, any word on pricing for this bad boy?

-ATL

Hi ATL:

___Not even a peep but I expect it to come in well under $20K with a 2.0L TDI.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Why can't entry level hybrids look this upscale inside & out.

I'm seriously considering this. Of course it might be best to wait for the 2011 model. I'm not sure I'd trust the first year of any car.

Hi ATL:

___Not even a peep but I expect it to come in well under $20K with a 2.0L TDI.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Under $20k? I don't think so. The comparably-equipped Jetta TDI MSRPs for $22.2k. Golfs are cheaper than Jettas, but not THAT much cheaper. Maybe $21k.

As I posted in the other "Golf VI wins world car"-thread, the only gasoline engine available for the US market will be the 2.5L. I'd love to see the 1.4 L twin-charged or the 1.6 L as a base.

2010 VW Golf TDI (GTI shown) – A possible 36 mpgUS combined

36 mpg (US) combined? I don't understand why we consider this to be something good. It's fuel economy isn't as good as the Toyota and Honda hybrids, so it emits more greenhouse gases. Furthermore, though much improved versus older diesels, it still emits much more smog forming air pollution per mile than gasoline cars. So, why do we tout this car on "CleanMPG".com?

-Bryan

36 mpg (US) combined? I don't understand why we consider this to be something good. It's fuel economy isn't as good as the Toyota and Honda hybrids, so it emits more greenhouse gases. Furthermore, though much improved versus older diesels, it still emits much more smog forming air pollution per mile than gasoline cars. So, why do we tout this car on "CleanMPG".com?

-Bryan

Because getting 36 mpg combined is better than the gas model which only makes 24 mpg combined. 36 mpg combined also beats the Yaris/Fit/Astra/Matrix/need I go on?

36 mpg (US) combined? I don't understand why we consider this to be something good. It's fuel economy isn't as good as the Toyota and Honda hybrids, so it emits more greenhouse gases. Furthermore, though much improved versus older diesels, it still emits much more smog forming air pollution per mile than gasoline cars. So, why do we tout this car on "CleanMPG".com?

-Bryan
While not as good as the Toyota and Honda hybrids, 36mpg combined would put the Golf in the top 10 most fuel efficient vehicles sold in North America. Second, what is your definition of much more smog forming emissions? Here is the Jetta TDI (Golf would be similar) compared to some other cars in its class:

|NOx (g/mi)|Hwy NOX (g/mi)|3-day Evap (grams/test)|
Jetta TDI|0.04|0.03|N/A|
Civic ULEV|0.04|0.03|0.20|
Corolla ULEV|0.03|0.01|0.26|


So the TDI spits out more NOx than the Corolla, is similar to the Civic, and has less evaporative emissions than either.

Hi Bryan:

___When we recommend a vehicle for someone, we ask about its primary drive cycle. I would never recommend a Golf or Jetta TDI to someone that drives a 75% city or stop and crawl like drive. If they however drive the highways, now you are speaking of Prius-II/III, HCH-II and Insight-II like FE and that is where the Golf will really shine.

___The Golf's 36 mpgUS combined does not sound like much just as the Jetta TDI’s 34 mpgUS combined is pretty poor but you drive either of these two on the highway, there is little a diesel can get beat up by including the hybrids. I suspect the Golf TDI will be rated at 43 mpgUS highway and you can see what that looks like compared to the Prius-II/III, HCH-II and Insight-II.

___Regarding emissions, the Prius-II/III and HICH-II will always dominate due to the SULEV specs but compared to the Yaris, Fit, Civic and Corolla, it is actually cleaner while rated as a ULEV-II and practically non-existent evaporative emissions that both GreenVTEC and Mike pointed out.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I want one! And I'm anal enough to do the maintenance, too!

Might have to get the DSG to please the S.O., however.

I want one! And I'm anal enough to do the maintenance, too!

Might have to get the DSG to please the S.O., however.

If you get the DSG, you'll definitely save a lot by doing maintenance yourself ($500-800 transmission flushes every 40k miles... I'd rather use that money for a PS3 or whatever next-gen video game console comes out by then).