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Aether glider
03-10-2009, 11:45 PM
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/AmericanFlag.jpg The 4.5-liter Duramax was a major innovation for diesel engines. It was designed by GM entirely in-house and represented a radical new approach to diesel engine architecture. (news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/03/gm-indefinitely-postpones-45liter-duramax-lightduty-diesel-engine.html)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/duramax45.jpgMike Levine - PickupTrucks.com (pickuptrucks.com/) - Mar. 10, 2009

I guess you're more worried about staying in business. I like the idea of a diesel in a light duty truck. I'm hoping for a diesel Colorado --Ed.

Light-duty truck buyers interested in purchasing a half-ton diesel are going to have to wait until after 2010 at the very earliest. GM is the latest manufacturer to confirm a diesel engine won’t be offered any time soon in its light-duty pickups. Employees at GM’s Tonawanda Engine Plant near Buffalo, New York were told Monday that the all-new 4.5-liter Duramax V-8 diesel has been indefinitely postponed.

“Due to capital constraints and the current economic climate, the 4.5-liter Duramax is on indefinite hold,” GM powertrain spokesperson Susan Garavaglia told PickupTrucks.com. “It’s not canceled. Should the situation change, we’re still very interested in adding this technology to our product portfolio.”

The news of the so-called baby Duramax being placed on hold isn’t surprising. Ford and Toyota have also indefinitely paused their small diesel programs and Chrysler recently said a diesel for the Dodge Ram 1500 won’t be available until 2011 at the earliest. Ford, GM, Chrysler and Toyota had previously promised half-ton diesels by the 2010 calendar year.

A rapid surge in fuel prices last year that left diesel fuel with an approximate 20 percent price premium over regular gasoline and the dramatic decline in pickup truck sales have been cited as reasons by other truck manufacturers, as well as the deteriorating condition of the general economy.

The 4.5-liter Duramax was a major innovation for diesel engines. It was designed by GM entirely in-house and represented a radical new approach to diesel engine architecture. It reversed the intake and exhaust relative to a conventional diesel so fresh air would enter the cylinders from the outer edges of the cylinder heads while exhaust gases were dumped between the cylinder heads and directly into a turbocharger. The breakthrough design eliminated the intake and exhaust manifolds and other related components - saving weight, reducing size and lowering costs by up to and estimated $600 per engine versus a conventional diesel. GM promised power ratings for the 4.5-liter Duramax would be over 310-horsepower and 520 pound-feet of torque with up to 25 better fuel economy.

“We currently offer a full line of gas and diesel engines in different displacements to meet truck buyers’ needs,” said Garavaglia. “And our Two-Mode Hybrid gets up to 40 percent better fuel economy in the city (versus a comparable gas engine light-duty pickup). For towing and hauling we have our 6.6-liter Duramax diesel available for our Heavy Duty Silverado and Sierra pickups. It will be updated for 2010 to meet the latest (EPA) emissions requirements.”

The 6.6-liter V-8 Duramax is rated at 660 lb-ft of torque and 365 hp.

Garavaglia added that GM might license the 4.5-liter V-8 to an outside partner even if it doesn't build it on its own.

"If it was a win-win for both parties, we could potentially outsource production (of the 4.5-liter V-8) to a third party," said Garavaglia... http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/03/gm-indefinitely-postpones-45liter-duramax-lightduty-diesel-engine.html

Taliesin
03-11-2009, 08:44 AM
Can I get a diesel for my Ranger? Somewhere between 1.0 and 2.0?

PaleMelanesian
03-11-2009, 09:05 AM
At the station I passed this morning, gas was 1.85 and diesel was 1.95. That's a whopping 5% difference.

I'm sad to see this news.

Chuck
03-11-2009, 09:43 AM
Can Buffalo trade Terrell Owens and get the Duramax production online immediately?

99LeCouch
03-14-2009, 12:25 AM
I think that would have been something to get people excited about GM again, get them back into showrooms.

The business buyers would have loved only having to buy one fuel for their fleets. And the fuel economy and versatility of the engine compared to a gas truck.

Yaris Hilton
03-14-2009, 07:20 AM
The 4.5-liter Duramax was a major innovation for diesel engines. It was designed by GM entirely in-house and represented a radical new approach to diesel engine architecture. It reversed the intake and exhaust relative to a conventional diesel so fresh air would enter the cylinders from the outer edges of the cylinder heads while exhaust gases were dumped between the cylinder heads and directly into a turbocharger.

The way they ran the manifolding on a 1940 Cadillac flathead V8. :flag:

(Well, it had the intake manifold in the middle, too.)

xcel
03-14-2009, 12:26 PM
Hi 99LeCouch:

___I have to agree. Besides the Volt and VUE PHEV, the 4.5 CI-ICE was the only thing I was actually looking forward too from GM over the next few years. I am not that fond of the 4.5L displacement as a 3.0 or 3.5 would have done the job but for a half-ton, it would have been spectacular with 25 to 30 mpg made available to anyone that drove it out on the highway.

___Given the financial straits that GM is in right now, I doubt much other than the Volt is advancing at full speed ahead nowadays. Very unfortunate for GM given they have some very talented people over there but the bean counters and work rules, trade regulations and health care have destroyed them over the last decade or so.

___Good Luck

___Wayne



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