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Super Bowl 43 will be different.

Is this the first year of no car commercials?

PETA had a racy pro-vegan commercial that will not be showing

http://www.youtube.com/v/5GJiIXn87BQ&hl=en&fs=1

I'm sympathetic with their aims in the commercial....I'm not vegan, but realize I could cut out a lot of meat and it would be heathier. Still, is the tatics PETA uses effective or backfiring?

umm, interesting commercial, it did catch my attention. ... Success?


"Mommy why does she like those veggies so much?" :D

Peta needs to learn how to convey their message to people like me that like numbers and facts. You know, like smoking kills X number of people every second. Tell me how many cows are dying every minute, that's the kind of stuff I want to know.

Seems like all I ever hear about peta is "Oh look at so and so getting naked for peta". I don't care about that, and thus far peta's never given me any reasons to stop eating meat besides "Look at the pretty naked lady, she doesn't eat meat so you shouldn't too!"

Eh... guess I went a little off topic there. Anyways with the commercial, my guess is after the Janet Jackson incident, the people in charge of what gets displayed during the super bowl will be overly cautious for years to come.

I'd already forgotten about that.

Yes, they need to come up with more than feel-good campaigns and stop the finger wagging, and destroying expensive coats (the damage is already done why become a vandal?)

Some sort of appeal to the logically oriented amoung us, or numerically minded in you case. While there at it something for the general population b/c its not working for them either.

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Paris Hilton molesting a vehicle passes but this doesn't?

Paris Hilton molesting a vehicle passes but this doesn't?

It's in part cultural and political. Paris Hilton sex & 5 Bud lights is as American as apple pie. PETA sex & a joint though means we are doomed.

The people in PETA tend to be extremists, and they often engage in activities which are against the law.
There are balances to most everything. I donate to local animal shelters, because they are actually doing some good things without destroying private property.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/davepenn/petabanner.gif

Dude, that has got to be the funniest banner I've ever seen!! :biglol:

animals are delicious, in particular the cute ones with the soft fur and sad looks in their eyes

however i get the message that animals should be treated humanely

i think that the commercial is ineffective, i really dont see a strong enough connection between peta´s message and the commercial, maybe a grocery store should use it to promote vegetables or something

but i also think that people at too uptight these days, you really cant keep that kind of stuff from your kids, and in the end, this peta commercial isnt going to turn your kid into a psycho, being a psychotically overprotective parent might though

and i dont know if it was just me but there was 1 second of it where i think it was too much for sure, not apt for tv

conclusion, peta was wrong for making it and whoever sensors that stuff was almost wrong for censoring it, they both fail

That commercial will have little or no effect. I"ll probably be eating chicken wings when it airs.

We Americans allow 40 million poor citizens to go uninsured and risk needless death. It's a little optimistic that a society like that is all of a sudden have a soft spot for caged chickens. I too will likely be violating PETA policy during the Super Bowl.

If you think this is bad. PETA is currently trying to change the name of fish to "sea kittens." There was a story about it in my local paper.

If you think this is bad. PETA is currently trying to change the name of fish to "sea kittens." There was a story about it in my local paper.

Yeah... They equate fishing with the torture of small children...

They want me to quit fishing?!?

After they pry my fishing rod(s) from my cold dead hands!

If you think this is bad. PETA is currently trying to change the name of fish to "sea kittens." There was a story about it in my local paper.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/215975/january-15-2009/tip-wag---monkey-on-the-lam

I think PETA is a dangerous organization being run for the profit of a few at the top (who would probably run over a squirl for a quarter), and a group of hard cores just below them who don't even want humans to have pets.

Most of the celebs doing adds for them think they are just anti-fur & pro-veg, but its far more than that.

She really loves vegetables. :o

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x5/grizzly55/saskatoon.jpg

Pass the gravy please.:D - Dale

If we used PETA tatics, we would flaunt tailgating semis, running red lights at every opportunity, reveling in being outlaws...is there a reason we don't go there? ;)

PETA defends their tatics as getting "the most bang for the buck" - I won't deny the publicity they get. Is alienating a large part of the audience helping or hindering? I say the messenger is hurting the message. Some will eat more BBQ to defy them. Fallout from groups like PETA is felt on this forum on a variety of topics that are overly politized....groups like PETA are seen as the face of all things green, so millions will blindly assume such absurdities such as driving a Prius condones PETA.

PETA polarizes. Many will be anti-environemental in a misguided way to oppose groups like PETA.

If we used PETA tatics, we would flaunt tailgating semis, running red lights at every opportunity, reveling in being outlaws...is there a reason we don't go there? ;)

Can't forget we'd be naked while doing it! :Banane51:

Can't forget we'd be naked while doing it! :Banane51:That's why Toyota should make a Prius ragtop! :D

Quick note: I'm a vegetarian, and I don't like PETA. I don't like their PR campaigns or tactics, among other things. But PETA members, many of whom are reasonable, don't think, for example, that people shouldn't own pets. Yes, there are extremists--there are people who think hypermiling includes drafting semis, but they aren't representative of the group as a whole.

So: not trying to convert anyone to vegetarianism, just trying to say: not all vegetarians are PETA members. (In my experience, most aren't.)

The argument has been made that they exploit women to save animals. I suppose that is better than exploiting women to sell (insert any product here).




*I'm not complaining.

Quick note: I'm a vegetarian, and I don't like PETA. I don't like their PR campaigns or tactics, among other things. But PETA members, many of whom are reasonable, don't think, for example, that people shouldn't own pets. Yes, there are extremists--there are people who think hypermiling includes drafting semis, but they aren't representative of the group as a whole.

So: not trying to convert anyone to vegetarianism, just trying to say: not all vegetarians are PETA members. (In my experience, most aren't.)I'm glad to get a perspective of a vegetarian on this.

From what I've read, it seems Americans have increased their meat consumption and strictly from a numbers standpoint, getting millions to reduce their meat consumption would make a big impact on how livestock animals are treated, the health of the humans, and sustainability (less resources to grow food).

I suspect that obesity is a problem in part because in the time one is full, a high meat-diet will have far more calories than a fruit and fibre one.

whoa i just realized that not eating meat or eating less is a lot like hypermiling
same effects on wallet, environment, economy, happiness, ect
it isnt the norm but is accepted in what are considered advanced cultures

thats almost enough for it to be recommended to all hypermilers

someone who is in a place to, should talk to the people of this forum that want to hear about it or like start a thread or something

A number of members would consider it offtopic, yet related.

isnt there a special area for off topic conversation, so as to not offend anyone it could go there, maybe?

i mean it is somewhat related

Anything Goes is probably the most appropiate area.

I endorse the discussion.

awesome, now we just need someone who knows about it to start a thread

Quick note: I'm a vegetarian, and I don't like PETA. I don't like their PR campaigns or tactics, among other things. But PETA members, many of whom are reasonable, don't think, for example, that people shouldn't own pets. Yes, there are extremists--there are people who think hypermiling includes drafting semis, but they aren't representative of the group as a whole.

Sorry, don't mean to offend PETA members. When I say PETA is an evil and underhanded orginization, I don't mean its members, but instead the people at the top who are in charge. And I'm sure there are some good forthright people there too, but not enough when you look at their actions.

Take the animal shelter they run. Its not a no-kill shelter. People bring animal there they love but can't take care of anymore. Out of ignorance they may be putting their animal in the line of fire.

I would say its similar to AAA, while most people are just there for the perks (road side assistance & that sort of thing), they are also supporting an org which often take negative stands (say against higher mpg cars).

We need to remember that an orginization isn't just the PR they stick in front of us, but the people and their motivations that run it.

...groups like PETA are seen as the face of all things green, so millions will blindly assume such absurdities such as driving a Prius condones PETA...

Hmm... now imagine me driving down the road in a Prius (or Insight) with my fishing poles easily seen through the windows...:D

That would give some people that are blindly assuming a bit of a pause...:confused:

Taliesin, that's precisely why I contemplated slapping a McCain/Palin sticker on the back of my Insight. ;)

Anything Goes is probably the most appropiate area.

I endorse the discussion.

Cool! When I have a little more time, I'll try to post the basics of why I'm a vegetarian.

cant wait to read it