Chuck
12-28-2008, 11:19 PM
Cases can also be made for Cleveland, Cincinnanti, Denver, Tampa Bay, NY Jets, but it seems the two biggest train wrecks were in Detroit and Dallas.
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View Full Version : Who Had the More Disappointing Season Chuck 12-28-2008, 11:19 PM Cases can also be made for Cleveland, Cincinnanti, Denver, Tampa Bay, NY Jets, but it seems the two biggest train wrecks were in Detroit and Dallas. Earthling 12-29-2008, 07:02 AM Chuck, you forgot Buffalo. They want the coach gone. A lynch mob, with torches and pitchforks, is forming. Harry rdprice64 12-29-2008, 07:34 AM Expectations were not that high in Detroit, but Dallas was a "lock" for the Superbowl after week 3. Romo needs a Psychologist to get over his big game implosion syndrome that he seems to be stuck in. Bill Parcells was always really good at that, just look at Chad Pennington yesterday: prepared, calm, and played well. Chuck 12-29-2008, 10:11 AM Chuck, you forgot Buffalo. They want the coach gone. A lynch mob, with torches and pitchforks, is forming. HarryAnd maybe Kansas City? When Jerry Jones said several times after the game there would be no coaching changes, I could not help but to think this is like the Al Davis of recent years. :eek: Yeah, he is probably planning to make Jason Garett the next coach but wants to wait a year or two. Other than the wait and aging the current cast, the offense has slipped and that's what Jason is in charge of. :o Being an owner is a full-time job: the best ones don't try to also be a general manager, they find one. That's what Clint Murchason did in the early days of the Cowboys, the Steelers, the Patriots, and the Dolphins do now. D magazine suggested a few years ago, Jones is driven to run things himself to desperately prove it was not Jimmy Johnson alone that got the Cowboys to championships, but his administration tends to confirm that. Best thing that could happen to the Cowboys is hiring a good GM, replace the coaching staff and troublesome players like TO. peacefrog_0521 01-04-2009, 05:13 PM I voted for Dallas even though I live in Detroit (but I do NOT support the Lie-Ons). I remember Week 1 when Dallas was already being anointed as the Superbowl champions, after beating Cleveland. I believed it too because I thought Cleveland might be a good team this year. Dallas isn't used to this type of crash and burn failure like Detroit is. Detroit fans are pissed, to be sure, but they have always seen the 0-16 season coming. worthywads 01-04-2009, 05:18 PM I'd vote Green Bay, decent start but a 13-3 team completely fell apart in the second half of the season and we can't blame rodgers, the defense gave away 5 games we should have won. Chuck 01-04-2009, 06:20 PM I may at last be losing my lifelong Cowboys religion. I really would like the Cows to do well but at this point that would seem to require a regime change. My take is Jerry Jones got lucky to have a fist full of high pick drafts from Dallas finishing dead last for two straight years, plus the Hershel Walker trade. That and hiring Jimmy Johnson....if he declined it would have been Barry Switzer. :eek: Jerry got envious that Jimmy was getting so much of the credit, plus both of them wanted to be the General Manager...ran off Johnson and probably cost Dallas a 4th Super Bowl in the 90's. The coaches after Johnson were yes-men: Three Stooges. Ticket sales were starting to hurt so Jones seemed to see the light when he hired Parcells, but hindsight suggests he was still playing some back-seat driver considering The Tuna was more successful before and after Dallas (i.e. read Miami). How is Dallas screwed-up? Let me count the ways. The best organizations are Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Miami, and esp. New England....the Landry era Cowboys strongly resembled the Patriots' structured organization: the owner runs the front office, the coach runs the team, and they have someone else as General Manager that finds the players. Neither owners or coaches do well as a GM....the best situation is finding a person compatible with the coach. Now that Matt Millen is gone and Jeff Ireland is Miami's GM, it will soon be evident that Jerry Jones is the worst GM in the NFL. A good organization has a clear chain of command....painfully aware of a previous job where chain of command was broken by people with a god-complex. Jerry Jones undermines his coaches by allowng players to go over the coaches' heads. Discipline suffers. Even when Parcells was in Dallas, Jerry got TO anyway (more on that) With the excepton of Johnson and Parcells, all the coaches did not dare challenge Jones and that's the way he likes it. The NFL's elite coaches therefore won't touch Dallas or Oakland. Jones will spend money on talent without regard of compatibility and expect his coaches to make them fit...this is best done WITH a Parcells or Belichick - NOT a spineless yes-man. Specifically, I mean Terrell Owens and Packman Jones Gets high-risk players thinking only he can make them work (see above point) Teamwork: Players would make touchdowns or big plays and teamates are too competive to give a high-five (read: TO whining the ball is not thrown to him enough) This along with loose discipline is the fault of the coaching staff Jones' infatuation with players/concepts: When the West Coast offense was the buzz, he hired assistant coaches because it was cool - never mind if Dallas has the receivers and QB, nor if it undermined his head coach. Then he fell in love with Quincy Carter, fantaziing he was the 2nd Michael Vick (when he looked like the next superstar) It's kind of like the greenwasher proud of having a hybrid plate on a Chevy Malibu or Escalade.Dreaming, but wish ticket sales would go the way of FSP sales until Jones sold the Cowboys or hired a GM and GET OUT OF HIS WAY!!!! jstol3 01-04-2009, 06:29 PM I nominate the KC Chiefs. The upside to this season is that Carl Peterson is finally gone. The story of Herm Edwards is still to be told. I haven't even played football since junior high school but I believe that I could have done at least as good a job as Herm if I had coached from home by calling in at half-time! Very disappointing season! Chuck 01-04-2009, 06:33 PM I nominate the KC Chiefs. The upside to this season is that Carl Peterson is finally gone. The story of Herm Edwards is still to be told. I haven't even played football since junior high school but I believe that I could have done at least as good a job as Herm if I had coached from home by calling in at half-time! Very disappointing season!I predict Herm Edwards will be the last coach to be fired this season....suprized it has not happened yet. Would KC fans welcome back Marty Shottheimer? jstol3 01-04-2009, 07:09 PM I believe we would. God, I miss "Marty-ball"! vBulletin® v3.6.7, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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