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xcel
08-23-2006, 07:18 PM
Consumer Reports survey could indicate more trouble for Detroit and profitable SUV and truck sales. (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060823/AUTO01/608230367/1148)

Tom Krisher - Associated Press - August 23, 2006

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2006 Ford Freestyle - Shift to car-based crossover vehicles that are more fuel efficient, will continue.


DETROIT - Fuel economy is about even with reliability as the top factors that people consider when buying a vehicle, according to a nationwide poll taken for Consumer Reports magazine.

The nationwide telephone survey, taken Aug. 3-7 as gasoline prices remained around $3 per gallon, showed that 27 percent of likely vehicle buyers ranked gas mileage as the top factor in an automobile purchase.

Reliability was the top factor for 25 percent, followed by purchase price at 14 percent and safety features at 12 percent, according to the poll taken by the Princeton, N.J.-based Opinion Research Corp. Five percent said manufacturer and dealer incentives are the top factor in an auto purchase, and 3 percent said styling.

Consumer Reports funded the poll, which has an error margin of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

On the surface, the poll results appear to indicate further trouble for the Big Three domestic auto manufacturers, which rely more on truck and sport utility vehicle sales for their profits than their foreign-based competitors. Truck and SUV sales were down for the first seven months of the year compared with the same period in 2005, while car sales were up.

But Rebecca Lindland, an auto analyst at Global Insight Inc., said the company's research shows consumers often say one thing when polled and then do something else when it comes time to make a purchase.

Americans, she said, are loath to give up the storage space and seating of an SUV and switch to a sedan. Lindland said she thinks the shift to car-based crossover vehicles, which have the same seating and storage as SUVs but are more fuel efficient, will continue.

"It's kind of difficult to get out of an SUV/crossover vehicle and go back to a sedan," she said. "When push comes to shove, it's tough to give up an SUV, especially because there are crossovers now that do get better gas mileage."

The survey also showed that incentives such as rebates and free gasoline have been used so often by manufacturers that consumers look past them to other factors, said Rob Gentile, director of Consumer Reports' car information products.

The poll was the magazine's first of this size dealing with auto purchases, Gentile said. Past research has shown gas mileage as an important factor in buying decisions, but it hasn't ranked as high, he said.

"I think now what you're starting to see obviously is it's becoming more and more significant as gasoline prices have risen in the past year or so," Gentile said.

To conduct the poll, Opinion Research randomly called 1,000 people at least 18 years old and surveyed 526 people who said they were considering a vehicle purchase in the next two years.

AshenGrey
08-24-2006, 07:53 PM
I think CUVs are a step in the right direction. It's better for someone to drive a 23 MPG Element than a 13 MPG Escalade.

xcel
08-24-2006, 08:11 PM
Hi AshenGrey:

___I tend to agree but why not place the hybrid drivetrain in the Freestyle, RAV4, CX-7, CR-V, Equinox, or RDX? I guess I will never have my cake and at it too but I can certainly hope for the day in which they do offer a really fuel efficient CUV vs. the Mazda CX-7 2WD Zoom Zoom’s (EPA rated - 19/24) and Turbocharged RDX’s (EPA rated - 19/23)

___Our 03 MDX is rated at 17/23 and it is a rather large CUV if you care to call it that vs. these newer smaller ones and the FE is not that much different as shown above … Another next generation of automobile design completely wasted in my book. I just don’t understand what the design managers and upper level management guys are thinking :( Even the Saturn Redline should be equipped with the Greenline’s 2.4 for higher FE and performance then the 2.2 it is currently shackled with let alone the ancient 4 speed auto’s both are stuck with today?

___Good Luck

___Wayne

AshenGrey
08-24-2006, 08:24 PM
Hi AshenGrey:

___I tend to agree but why not place the hybrid drivetrain in the Freestyle, RAV4, CX-7, CR-V, Equinox, or RDX? I guess I will never have my cake and at it too but I can certainly hope for the day in which they do offer a really fuel efficient CUV vs. the Mazda CX-7 2WD Zoom Zoom’s (EPA rated - 19/24) and Turbocharged RDX’s (EPA rated - 19/23)

___Our 03 MDX is rated at 17/23 and it is a rather large CUV if you care to call it that vs. these newer smaller ones and the FE is not that much different as shown above … Another next generation of automobile design completely wasted in my book. I just don’t understand what the design managers and upper level management guys are thinking :( Even the Saturn Redline should be equipped with the Greenline’s 2.4 for higher FE and performance then the 2.2 it is currently shackled with let alone the ancient 4 speed auto’s both are stuck with today?

___Good Luck

___Wayne

There are a couple CUVs I'd LOVE to see hybridized:

-- Toyota Matrix: It's the right size for the HSD to function well, and the shape is pretty aerodynamic.
-- Honda Element: It's probably on the high side for what an IMA can support, but it's a cute/popular CUV that could get 30 MPG with hybridization.

So... Does GM just not buy into the CVT concept? A CVT seems to be the ideal transmission for a hybrid vehicle (so long as you're not using it to tow huge things). Their elderly 4ATs have got to go!

Chuck
08-24-2006, 08:30 PM
In Keith Bradshier's book The High & Mighty, he is advocating the general public trade their vehicles for a trimmer size. Not everybody is going to drive Civics and Prius', but replacing a jumbo SUV for a mid-size one, or a CUV, it would make a dent on national fuel consumption.

xcel
08-24-2006, 09:01 PM
Hi AshenGrey:

___The Matrix (2,670 #’s) would be great for so many but here again, Toyota played some games with it for whatever reason. It is built on the same line as the Corolla (2,550 #’s). In fact, it has the Corolla’s underpinnings. Now why did they hop up/gear down the Corolla’s 1.8 to drive the Matrix’s FE down to (30/36) from the Corolla (32/41) - both with sticks? Back when the Matrix first came out, you had to purchase a hopped up 170 HP 1.8 and that thing was a fuel sucking pig by comparison to the std. Corolla even though it was built on the same line and platform? Even Toyota is learning from their mistakes of the past but if the Prius-I’s 0 – 60 in 15 + seconds at ½ SoC and the Prius II’s 0 – 60 in 13 + at ½ SoC is OK for all those Prius drivers, why does Toyota or anyone else for that matter need to build automobiles that go from 0 - 60 in under 9 seconds and get just ok FE when the could build the 0 - 60 in 12 + second cars and get great FE like the Europeans do? The best FE misers in Europe are 14 and 15 + second cars in fact yet somehow they survive? I wonder why we cannot given fully loaded 18-wheeler’s can’t accelerate anywhere near those rates yet they survive.

___A good friend of mine has it right when he debates me about FE … The price simply hasn’t gotten high enough for people to change. I thought $2.50 + would be a tipping point and little did I know, even $3.00 kept the party rolling. Maybe not the same party Ford and GM were enjoying back in the Explorer/Tahoe/Yukon heydays for sure but the general public is not getting ahead of the game, instead they are slowly falling behind it. Remember that fuel prices increased by almost 2.5X’s over the past 3 + years … It would take going from an Ford F-150 w/ a V8 to almost a Prius II to just break even in terms of $’s spent over the same amount of miles traveled over the last 3 + years. The US consumer is not thinking of this in these terms but someone is getting hurt with this transfer of wealth to the oil companies vs. the small shops, stores, bars, movie theaters or whatever where that once disposable income is now filling somebody’s tank instead of spending it on the goods and services that make the economy that much more vibrant. Maybe the oil money makes the economy run like the wind in an even higher fashion but what do I know?

___I have some even more interesting analysis as to what is going on with monies being doled out by Hezbollah in Lebanon for rebuilding and we all know where those $’s are coming from … Put 2 and 2 together and you get Iran - Oil - Terrorism - Death and the rest of the picture to the detriment of the entire world :(

___Good Luck

___Wayne



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