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Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S. (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11138)

I know things are not doing too well, but I think he had too much vodka.

Boy, that guy is kinda out there.

I suppose when your frame of reference includes the USSR and the Slovakian area you expect "countries" to split apart whenever governmental issues arise.

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.
Heh. Texas all by itself. :D

Concerning the split up of the US, at the end I was wondering if he was going to say "I can see Alaska from my home" :p

That sounds like it is just asking for another Alamo!! :eek:

Concerning the split up of the US, at the end I was wondering if he was going to say "I can see Alaska from my home" :p

Ouch. Let it go, Chuck... let it go!!

Sorry - I guess there was a reason I don't write scripts for SNL

Wow, chuck, lol you are absolutely right, I did actually think he was gonna say he could see alaska from his house :p. maybe he can see Florida, otherwise there's no way anyone could take him seriously.

I'll have what he's drinking...

And not even a mention of the Euro & the EU as a competitor in the buyout ;)

The fact that he describes Alaska as "a lease" tells me that he actually knows nothing about America, its history, or its people.

There's nothing new about this, there were russkies predicting the collapse of the United States back in the early 70's amid all of the anti-war demonstrations and the political turmoil surrounding the impeachment of President Nixon.

The Russians predicting the dissolution of of the States is like the Inquirer predicting the breakup of a Hollywood marraige. Such is the nature of our decentralized system that we have always been, are, and will likely be half way there for some time. Such an arrangement helps to ensure the very territorial integrity of a country to a much greater degree than the opposite.......iron fists towards Vilnius 1992, Grozny 1994, or Kiev more recently.

I heard Spain is breaking up too! Catalonia now has their own provincial government and language! You know, like every other western, non-Russian federalist state. ;)

Maybe the breakup of the US seems possible from the perspective of Russian history, but I doubt it. Even if things have become more polarized in the past few years, it doesn't break along the clean "red state/blue state" lines he seems to suggest. Most states have serious political splits within them, and that actually helps keep the whole thing bound together.

And even in the extremely unlikely scenario he prophesies, I don't agree with his logic on how things would cleave. "The Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population" -- ?? I agree, the Pacific coast might well stick together. But if anything, the Hispanic population (which he associates with the South) is a much bigger cultural influence than the Chinese, and even that is only one dimension of the shared culture of the west coast. If things cleaved that way, the eastern parts of OR, WA and CA might well split off from the western parts, since they have more in common with the intermountain western states (ID-MT-WY-UT-CO-NM-AZ) than they do with the coasts.

On the other hand, I could easily see the states themselves remaining strong and resistant to split -- and at the same time the northern/western states (WA-OR-ID-MT-WY) finding common ground with each other on certain issues, possibly in opposition to the southern/western states (CA-NV-UT-CO-NM-AZ). There are other possible split scenarios I could envision too, depending on the issues we were to find irreconcilable. Bottom line is I don't think there is an easy "natural" way to split the West. Across any potential border you're going to have neighbors with natural affinities that won't want to split.

I think other parts of the country would have similar dilemmas in finding good lines along which to split. If anything, the lack of such natural divisions probably helps keep us bound together. Any kind of breakup is only likely after tremendous turmoil has taken place, and the one time we ever found reason to divide ourselves along a strong border, it was really ugly. I hope we never find out, and I think the author has used a simplistic and ignorant analysis.

I think the red Texagan's and Okies would do just fine together.

We have the two best college football teams. Lots of guns and beer. More than enough oil and natural gas to keep us going for 100's of years between us. We have plenty of industrial means and enough raw oar to keep us going. We have heavy and light recycling. Not to mention the wind and sun. Lots of land to grow staple foods on with enough live stock to more than feed ourselves. I'm sure there are as many if not more horse's than people if somebody would really get to counting. We don't need the left or right coast's at all. :)

I know things are not doing too well, but I think he had too much vodka.
Some of what he says is accurate (i.e., huge debt), but his conclusions are more likely propaganda than vodka. He works for the Russian Foreign Ministry.
--Walter

Real Russian vodka.....is 400 proof :D

I found a link that has a more detailed interview. (http://www.russiatoday.com/features/news/33836)

It's good for a chuckle. I don't think he understands the US's history, geography, politics or economics--in addition to his map of the future disunited States of America I particularly enjoyed his conspiracy theory about the secret agreement to have the "Amero" replace the dollar. He probably represents conventional wisdom for a particular slice of the Russian intelligentsia, but he doesn't appear to be dangerous.

The main fallacy is he seems to think "Americans are just like Russians". I'll conceed we both belong in the Human Race....as Sting in his song Russians ...we have the same biology... Having said all that, there are some cultural changes. As imperfect at America has been a a multicultural nation, we seem to be ahead of Russia and definitely ahead in a democratic society.

It's amusing, but Americans can make the same mistake of thinkng "everybody is like us"....only have to go back 5-6 years to Sean Hannity predicting the Iraqis would rebuild quickly after we reached Bagdad.

and 8 yrs later we're fighting the iraqi for the iraqi...we're just there to avoid an embarrassing leave...spending an unjustifiable amount of income more so than we are spending here to keep our heads above water. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not into the whole idea of keep someone else afloat while I sink. I'm generous, tolerant, and easygoing, but only while I'm above water.

and 8 yrs later we're fighting the iraqi for the iraqi...we're just there to avoid an embarrassing leave....


Actually from what I read we're getting smarter in Iraq. Now we're paying graft/aid to most of the main leaders of the different ethnic divisions to get them to slow down killing each other. The ethnic cleansing that has been completed also helps settle things down. If we're lucky things will calm down enough soon so that we can declare victory and leave. Most likely it'll end up in a scenario like Vietnam where unfriendlies (of either the Saddam or Khomeini style) take over a couple of years after we leave.

There's actually a lot of Youtube videos about the decline of America too! Yeah, I think America will go bankrupt!

If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the United States will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.

Read More (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29504880/)