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Hi All:

___Let me introduce to you the CleanMPG Technical discussion forum. Having watched the Prius I and II folks in the YaHoo - Prius Tech forum as well as the Insight’ers over at IC take their automobiles to new heights via technical discovery; I thought it appropriate to create a forum such as this. I am just as much interested in that discovery as I am with the details about the how’s and why’s our automobiles work the way they do and with that, I hope some find this forum worthy of their time.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Thanks for the forum. It seems discussion of mods has been outlawed over across the street.

Randall

Thanks for the forum. It seems discussion of mods has been outlawed over across the street.

Randall

You mean at GH? Seriously?

Hi Tim:

___GH? What is that ;)

___IC is what Randall is talking about. They (IC and its moderator) have been far to trigger happy for far too long :( I will share both Chuck's and my own stories about IC with you and Randall privately sometime ...

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Huh. Oh, well. Personally I would like to get more into the technical side of FE, particularly with respect to the Insight. It's such a mileage monster that there has to be some benefit to knowing how it does its thing, even for someone who doesn't own one.

All, I will say publically is the worst thing a forum can do is let a member become a solid member of the community, then cancel a very active thread, that person's membership, or both for no good reason. :( Killing a thread like MIMA at that forum runs off members that were interested in that topic and makes other members worry if their posts will be allowed.

I think this accurately articulates the policy of the CleanMPG's founders :

Provide a positive atmosphere by pruning out spammers, trollers, rude and vulgar people, other disruptive people that wish to be a killjoy for our members that wish to pursue better fuel economy. Some admins philosophy of letting anyone do anything sometimes seems like letting the cats into a bird sanctuary. :eek: I call that a corruption of free expression....
Not go to the other extreme of worrying our good members with numerous prohibitions like no redundant topics, no environmentally related topics, no off-topics, no related topics, no vehicle mods.... A forum is supposed to be fun. Good members like Mike D should not be treated like trollers. :( If you feel like it requires a lawyer to determine if a post is acceptable, that forum's management has a problem.

Thanks for the incourageing words.
I am not banned from the site or anything like that, they just feel uncomfortable about discussing MIMA. It would seem that some of the other mods could potentially be as much of a concern reguarding warrantys, so I am not quite sure why MIMA has been chosen as the example.
AI was told that a letter or e-mail was going to be sent to honda by one of the moderators asking for their opinion about MIMA and warranty, so the answer to that letter may be behind this? I thought that a letter like that was bad judgement, and could only have one answer.

Go with the flow is my motto, so I will make the necessary adjustments to my path, and keep on pluging. (into the grid and my solar panels):)

Mike,

First of all, welcome to CleanMPG!

I'd have to agree about them contacting Honda - what were they thinking? When I've had the Honda dealerships do my oil, they NEVER use Mobil One, even though it's been on the market for 30 years and never hurt my 1988 CRX HF or my Insight. If Honda is reluctant to use synthetic motor oil, they will not smile on any mods....

I did not mean to imply you had been banned, but locking that MIMA thread is still a pretty serious slap in the face. I'd prefer the initial post just have a disclaimer "do at your own risk...".

I just happened to be lurking and saw the thread on the MIMA thread being locked. I let Wayne and Tom know and they agreed this was definitely over-moderating and to set things up in the event you decide to resume a MIMA thread here.

I just can't imagine the moderators and admins that closed your MIMA thread enjoying participating a forum if they were on the receiving end of their administration. That could come off as a vicious statment towards them, but it's because they seriously need to address their problem of over-moderating....

They squashed MIMA discussion?! What the hell are they thinking?
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I am not anxious to start another forum, it is a lot of work to do it correctly, and to set up all the nice little goodies like :cool: :) ;)
If the type of discussions that we were having at IC would fit within CleanMPG's "rules", I would rather move here than work with the present form of the 99MPG forum.
What do you think?

I am not anxious to start another forum, it is a lot of work to do it correctly, and to set up all the nice little goodies like :cool: :) ;)
If the type of discussions that we were having at IC would fit within CleanMPG's "rules", I would rather move here than work with the present form of the 99MPG forum.
What do you think?

I think the answer will come sometime today and you will like it. :)

Mike, feel free to discuss it here.

As you know some people don't see the value of MIMA, but that doesn't mean there isn't any. I for one would love to hear MIMA's pros and cons discussed. Who knows, some people might have suggestions on how to more effectively use it. I know when I program applications the users sometimes do things with the programs I had never anticipated and extend it in ways that weren't intended.

I'd definitely like to discuss MIMA.

My work commute is 25 miles, with the first 2 miles and last two miles being residential. The rest is highway. I'd think the 21 highway miles will easily recharge the batteries from the first two miles.

For those of us interested in hypermiling and fuel efficiency improving modifications (such as MIMA), CleanMPG seems like an appropriate forum. Since learning about it from Wayne Gerdes at the 2006 Tour de Sol, I've been impressed with the many interesting and informative articles, and the noble mission of "improving fuel efficiency in any vehicle".
-Brian

Good to see you here NEmystic and it was nice to meet you at the TDS 2006.

Welcome NEmystic!

Welcome to CleanMPG!

I think we met at HybridFest 2006, but it was all too short. :(

We welcome everybody that wishes to continue the MIMA discussion.

One of the cool things about vBulletin is it's search features. I know that thread was large, and searching with this software will make it easier. :)