View Full Version : 2007 Yaris Sedan Automatic current 50 US MPG tank streak
voodoo22 09-17-2008, 08:54 PM I know it's bragging, but I also want people to see the proof of what this car and many other cars are capable of given the right conditions and if you maintain the disciplines outlined on this site.
My "techniques" are basic and more common sense than any sort of skill:
1) Maintain the car properly - oil changes etc
2) Drive with as light of an accelerator foot as possible
3) Keep tires inflated 50-52 psi (thinking about increasing this)
4) Coast in N with engine on at highway speeds when possible - about 1-3 kms each way
5) On the last half of this tank I have started FASing to my morning parking space
6) NEVER exceed 90 km/h, but only accelerate to 80 km/h and maintain 90 km/h when I get the extra speed for free on a down slope
7) Slow down to 80 km/h when going up hill
8) Do not slow down below 80 km/h unless traffic conditions allow
9) I will slow down slowly to 80 from 90 if I get 90 for free on a downslope, but I cannot pulse & glide in this car or pulse & coast because of the car and the heavy traffic
10) Coast in D to use DFCO when approaching a light.
11) Turn off the car at lights when I know I am going to be stopped for longer than 10 seconds
12) Always coast in D to allow traffic to merge and keep as large a cushion between me and traffic in front so that I almost never have to use my brakes
13) NEVER use the A/C or even the fan unless I have passengers. When it's really hot I change into shorts at work for the drive home
14) Start driving immediately after ignition. Never idle.
15) When coasting in N down a hill it seems beneficial to go back to D just before the bottom of the hill and not at the end of the current hill and beginning of the next one
16) RR in the right lane to let approaching traffic know I am not speeding or even going the speed limit
17) Don't carry around extra stuff in the trunk
18) People are always mad, even though this behaviour saves no gas it saves me a lot of stress. I avoid eye contact with any other driver. This reduces nearly to 0 the road ragers who want to pretend like they're going to fight a 6'4" German:).
Some factors against me:
1) E10 gas
2) DRL are mandatory in Canada
3) Winter is coming
4) Don't have a scanguage
I think I covered most of what has allowed me to get 9 straight tanks of over 50 US MPG. I'm interested to see what I can maintain in the winter with winter tires.
I used to drive faster than now, but I always have driven more defensively than others. Thanks to seeing what people could get for FE using the techniques listed above and others, I was motivated to take my own discipline to another level. When I saw people getting near or over 50 in this car and read stories of other people on this site who also drove slow and didn't care if the road ragers didn't like it... that played a large role in taking me to where I am today. I don't know how much longer I can break the 50 MPG barrier with winter coming, but I had to let people know that you will be rewarded if you drive more disciplined. My totals over the past 9 tanks are:
That brings the summer total up to 9 straight 50 US MPG+ Tanks or
7763.91 kms using 348.823 litres 22.25km/l 4.49l/100km 52.3 US MPG
Most of my driving is my commute which is 52 kms each way, with 50 kms of very busy highway driving. It's a favourable commute, but I do have to go right into downtown Toronto (sometimes often) and on the past 3 tanks I have had to pick up my wife everyday after work. That's a short 1 km trip each way. I park in an underground parkade with a very steep grade exit which you can't build any momentum up to. So my driving is very favourable, but still not perfect.
Even beyond the joy of spending less money at the pump is that I can go 2 or 3 more days between making a trip to the gas station to fill.
I'm not doing anything complicated which can't be easily replicated given the right conditions. There's nothing magical or not real world about this driving style, it's simply a combination of conditions, car and driving discipline which EVERYONE can do and EVERYONE can improve on and many on this site already are.
mark2908 09-17-2008, 09:47 PM Nice going! 9 straight tanks at 50+. Bragging rights are yours.
Thanks for the great list.
Mark
voodoo22 09-18-2008, 06:29 AM Thanks, I hope it helps. It's all regurgitated info from this site, but it should give you an idea as to what is possible in your car in similar conditions.
voodoo22 09-28-2008, 06:28 PM made it to 10. Looks like it will be warm enough to have a chance for another, but I don't know how long this mileage will last once the cold weather kicks in.
With desperation kicking in to try and maintain the 50+ I started FAS ing to my parking space at work and have tried coasting in N as much as possible. I've got nothing left in the bag!
YarSwiss 09-28-2008, 09:19 PM made it to 10. Looks like it will be warm enough to have a chance for another, but I don't know how long this mileage will last once the cold weather kicks in.
With desperation kicking in to try and maintain the 50+ I started FAS ing to my parking space at work and have tried coasting in N as much as possible. I've got nothing left in the bag!
You know how I feel now, eh? After break 53 mpg, I am completely addicted, and I have to get more and more "aggressive" to break the 50 range continually. :p
voodoo22 09-29-2008, 07:01 AM You know how I feel now, eh? After break 53 mpg, I am completely addicted, and I have to get more and more "aggressive" to break the 50 range continually. :p
We're sick in a good way;)
voodoo22 10-08-2008, 08:13 PM barely made 11 straight. Cold weather is a definite threat now.
ksstathead 10-08-2008, 09:21 PM Amazing. I worked fairly hard for a 42 mpg tank in the Fit (Auto). I could see 50 under ideal conditions, but 11 straight tanks? Attaboy.
jdhog 10-09-2008, 11:01 AM 16) RR in the right lane to let approaching traffic know I am not speeding or even going the speed limit
Do You mean Ridge Riding at the edge of the road so approaching traffic from behind can see and pass easily? Is that dangerous at all, ie get run off the road?
atlaw4u 10-09-2008, 11:19 AM Congratulations and just think - you are getting better mileage than many Prius owners.
Do you use a block heater? I've heard they pretty much come with every car in Canada, but just making sure. That'll reduce the big hit you take from the cold start warm up.
Congrats on 50+ btw! Very nice, especially for an automatic.
needless to say I'm impressed, I don't even have one 50 MPG tank
voodoo22 10-10-2008, 07:30 PM Do You mean Ridge Riding at the edge of the road so approaching traffic from behind can see and pass easily? Is that dangerous at all, ie get run off the road?
I don't find it dangerous as the shoulder is pretty big in most areas of my commute. I've never been close to getting run off the road since I started driving slower. I think it's because people see me coming up on the horizon, see that I am obviously going slower than them and they are able to pass me so easily.
I try to make it so that it would take too much effort for people to try and run me off the road:)
voodoo22 10-10-2008, 07:40 PM Do you use a block heater? I've heard they pretty much come with every car in Canada, but just making sure. That'll reduce the big hit you take from the cold start warm up.
Congrats on 50+ btw! Very nice, especially for an automatic.
I don't use the block heater. We live in an apartment and we park underground. Then at work there's no place to plug-in. It doesn't get as cold in Toronto as Winnipeg (where I'm from). In Winnipeg they have posts with electrical outlets for people to plug in during the freeze your skin in less than a minute winters!
Thanks for all the kind word guys. With the colder weather and having to drive into the centre of Toronto every day so far on this tank, I'm already over 40 km's off the pace to safely make the 12th straight 50+ tank. It's going to take some fluke warm weather to allow me to claw back as I have to drive to the heart of downtown Toronto during peak time one more time on this tank. Those 4 commutes are really going to kill my MPG with the auto not giving much room to make anything up.
voodoo22 10-23-2008, 05:09 AM The streak is over. Too many factors to overcome on this last tank:
4 straight downtown Toronto commutes with traffic jams sometimes, going both directions
Cold wet weather, even below 0
I couldn't make up the difference and got my worst tank since May.
Final numbers on the 50 US MPG streak
Started May 29th
Ended October 7th
Number of tanks: 11
Distance traveled 9359.71 kms 5815.854 miles
Gas used: 420.688 litres 109.37888 gallons
Average FE per tank 4.496911669 l/100km 52.31720131 MPG
Actual FE for the streak 4.494669172 l/100km 52.31889003 MPG
I'm going to have to put the winter tires on soon. It will be interesting to see what kind of numbers I can post in the winter. I have averaged 43.87 MPG in 2007 from July until December and I am currently averaging 46.63 MPG for this year. So far I've improved by 6% over last year, but I think that number will go up a little bit even with winter coming.
WoodyWoodchuck 10-23-2008, 06:51 AM Sorry to hear the streak broke but you should do much better this winter over last! Whatever you were doing to break the 45 mpg barrier will continue to help. You’re still doing great at… 47 or 48 mpg for that tank. You’re still giving me a lofty goal to reach in mine!!!
voodoo22 10-23-2008, 09:06 AM your overall average is amazing. I wasn't as disciplined as you when I first got the Yaris. I feel the only thing I left to work on is being disciplined on long trips. I have a hard time justify FE over hours of time saved on a single long trip and those tanks have killed my overall average.
In my easy driving scenario, anything over 44 MPG is great and takes a lot of hard work. Since your driving situation is most likely more difficult than mine, you're posting awesome numbers already. Great job on that high average.
jimepting 10-23-2008, 10:15 AM Congratulations. It is a wonderful record for an AT where fas 'ing is precluded. I have an Echo AT which I had thought to be just as good on FE, but I have considerable difficulty getting a 50 MPG tank, using essentially the same methods as you have used. Most of my tanks are worse than 50 MPG.
I think that there may be unexplored differences between the Yaris and Echo drive trains, though there are supposed to be the same. I noted from the gov FE economy site that the gov only shows about 1 MPG difference between the two cars, Yaris better, under similar conditions. But the recorded experiences of actual drivers showed the Yaris a full 5 MPH better in highway driving.
I'm left with a tentative conclusion that the Yaris is at least a 2-3 MPG better car than the Echo, under similar conditions. I can't honestly see why this might happen since the drive trains are supposed to be the same, and the Echo is a lighter car. Anyone have a theory or explanation, or perhaps disagree?
voodoo22 10-23-2008, 11:06 AM Hi Jimepting,
From everything I've seen the Echo is capable of higher numbers than the Yaris because of it being lighter, but it's not like it's a huge difference either way and I'm sure the difference in numbers mostly comes down to driving behaviour, car maintenance and driving conditions.
At the very least you have a great car which can get awesome mileage by todays standards and at the most you have a car which does better on gas than the newer version of it. Either way you win with your choice in a car.
If you take a look at the Clean MPG fuel efficiency run (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15310&highlight=FE+CHALLENGE) going on you'll see a MT Echo is near the top and an auto Echo is beating me now, but that AT Echo is only beating me because of the colder weather we have here now and the fact that I have no choice but to use e10 gasoline ;)
You've done very well. 51.5 out of an automatic Yaris with E10 gas (the two factors I look at) is terrific, great work!
voodoo22 10-24-2008, 12:58 PM Thanks Hadi.
Your avatar... I can't look away. I feel like it's casting some sort form of control over me.
voodoo22 11-03-2008, 10:10 AM I was surprised to get another 50+ mpg tank on the last fill even though the weather was atrocious in every way and I put winter tires on a little over halfway through the tank. Surprisingly may have a chance to get another 50+ mpg with the current tank with a warm blast of weather coming tomorrow (even though this morning was an ice rain deluge) and nearly halfway there already. This would be my first ever 50+ mpg tank with winter tires on for the entire tank. So far, I can't recommend these Nokian rsi tires enough.
voodoo22 11-07-2008, 01:18 PM A lot of whacky factors contributed to me getting my best tank of gas yet... and I achieved expert status to boot. That's been a lot of hard work to get to.
Factors Against:
cold morning weather
winter tires on
Factors For:
only 2 short trips, the rest of the tank was all commute or highway driving on a shortish weekend trip which spanned just over 300 kms.
unusual blast of warm afternoon weather
no traffic jams
Oil change halfway through the tank where I got a new air filter
Somehow this combination equals
882.8 kms using 37.916 litres
4.29 l/100km
54.75mpg
I don't think I will be easily beat this mark. That shows how much of a difference those little trips make as in much better weather with all season tires, my previous best was 53.7mpg.
AlphabetBackward 11-07-2008, 05:04 PM Your car is only 5 MPG more than my car assuming freeway and you're getting 15 more than me. Amazing.
Hi Voodoo22:
___The cool thing is I doubt you will see under 40 even though winter. Nice job on the last tank indeed!
___EPA? What’s EPA :D
___Good Luck
___Wayne
voodoo22 11-08-2008, 07:40 AM Thanks Guys. I am excited to see how high I can keep my mpg this winter since I am driving more disciplined than last year. It seems I'm slowly going completely over to the green side and soon I will begin to refer to Wayne as my master :)
One guy I was talking to from Arizona thought I was recording my MPG in Imperial units, because it was so much higher than his totals :eek:
bobm33 11-15-2008, 10:42 AM wow that is incredible. my new yaris with manual transmission only gets 40 mpg but then again i'm new to this!!! what's your best secret?
:confused:
voodoo22 11-15-2008, 05:30 PM I don't have any secrets, but I think the two most important things I do is do not go over 55mph unless getting the speed is free coasting down a hill, and accelerate from a dead stop as slowly as possible.
drummerboy2004 11-15-2008, 06:02 PM C'mon Voodoo... you are making the rest of us look bad... ;)
Good work... Do this long enough, and you could save the price of the car in gas :woot:
Now, if only my commute wasn't all city, then we'd be talking...
Matt
voodoo22 11-20-2008, 03:03 PM C'mon Voodoo... you are making the rest of us look bad... ;)
Good work... Do this long enough, and you could save the price of the car in gas :woot:
Now, if only my commute wasn't all city, then we'd be talking...
Matt
Getting the mileage you do with all city commutes is awesome. I doubt I could average that high with our car.
I am happy to try and make you look bad though, for the people who don't understand the huge difference between highway and city miles :D
We've cut out almost all small trips on the past 2 tanks and that's allowed me to keep over 50 again on the past tank even through snow storms and 1+hr traffic jams courtesy of people driving too fast.
drove 923kms using 42.342 litres getting 4.58l/100km or 51.26 us MPG.
I'm amazed at the mileage I can get with these nokian rSI's. This morning people couldn't get out of the undergound parking because of the snow and ice on the exit ramp. I saw a 4x4 Jeep, Corolla with winter tires and a Honda Accord on all seasons all slide back after spinning and have to give up. Even with all that nice ice created by the spinning tires I drove up the ramp like it was a normal day. These tires really amaze me and I'm not easily amazed.
groar 11-20-2008, 03:29 PM Congrats voodoo22. Keep your needles and your dolls ;)
Is your car stock ?
May be can you test a grill block to heat quicker the engine.
I'm consuming 50% more when cold (5.2l/100) than when hot (3.5). With the grill block my engine is hot after 10 km, 20-25 km without. This makes a difference as my commute is 30 km.
Also the engine stays hot longer. When I have to drive at noon, then when I drive back to work the engine is hot after a couple km.
Denis.
WoodyWoodchuck 11-21-2008, 07:06 AM I’m testing a grill block on my Yaris this week. The upper grill is 100% blocked, the lower one 50%, drivers side. Mornings have been cold, 25 F to 30 F (I’m in NC, anything under 50 is cold). Afternoon commute in the 40’s or 50’s. While it is not the magic bullet to put voodoo22’s 50 mpg tanks to shame I have been maintaining warm weather mileages and tank averages might only go down 1 or 2 mpg.
No issue with overheating while ICE on. It can get up to 195 F after the 1/4 mile ICE off coast into my parking spot at work. Went from 8 to 10 miles to get up to temp (186 F) down to 5 or 6 miles.
It runs MUCH better for FE after warming up and having the grill block on and more than makes up for the initial loss of FE due to being cold. I have 4 ‘checkpoints’ along my commute where I check SG2 iMPG readings to see how I am doing. Example: at the first checkpoint on my commute I should be at 28 mpg average – for a 42 mpg to work run of 30 miles. Running cold it averages 22 or 23. Second checkpoint should be 38, cold it is 32 to 33. So after warming up, to maintain the 42 mpg trip I need to get way better mileage on the last leg. I pulled a 43.0 mpg average today with an inch of snow on the roads! Well, not all the roads, only the first couple miles cause I like out in the boonies.
Now, where are those boat tail plans of basjoo’s aerocivic…………
voodoo22 11-21-2008, 08:25 AM Congrats voodoo22. Keep your needles and your dolls ;)
Is your car stock ?
May be can you test a grill block to heat quicker the engine.
I'm consuming 50% more when cold (5.2l/100) than when hot (3.5). With the grill block my engine is hot after 10 km, 20-25 km without. This makes a difference as my commute is 30 km.
Also the engine stays hot longer. When I have to drive at noon, then when I drive back to work the engine is hot after a couple km.
Denis.
:p
Yes, our car is 100% stock except for in winter when I put on winter tires.
I'd like to test a grill block, but since I don't have a scan gauge and there's no thermostat reading in the car, I'm nervous about causing some damage. I'm also a little lazy about figuring out how I would make a grill block now that I'm in an apartment and don't have a nice warm, convenient garage to tinker around on the car in.
I sure could have used a grill block these last few days with temperatures nearing -10 celsius!
What kind of setup are you guys using for a grill block?
PaleMelanesian 11-21-2008, 09:14 AM I'm sure you can safely block the upper grill even with no instrumentation. That gives you the aero benefit as well.
voodoo22 11-21-2008, 10:40 AM I'm sure you can safely block the upper grill even with no instrumentation. That gives you the aero benefit as well.
What temperature do you think it would be unsafe to have the upper grill blocked at?
It can easily shoot up to the low teens in the winter for a day or 2. That's in celsius so that would be around mid 50's f.
PaleMelanesian 11-21-2008, 10:46 AM Even on highway trips, I have mine fully blocked up to about 60F, and halfway blocked above that. On the very hottest summer days I'll open up about 3/4 of it. Commuting in the summer I only open 1/4.
I have a shorter drive than you do, as we mentioned earlier.
voodoo22 11-21-2008, 11:00 AM Thanks for the advice Andrew.
WoodyWoodchuck 11-21-2008, 11:06 AM Correct, with a full upper block The temp never went over 188 F even with outside temps of 60 F. I will let you know how if the engine temps go higher than this when the outside temps here moderate. I only had the heating (to 195 F) with the partial bottom block in place. I would say you are safe doing a full upper when temps are below 50 F no problem… Unless you sit in traffic a lot, I have not done this to see what the temps are when sitting there idling!
I made my temporary one out of cardboard, the permanent one will be out of black coroplast. I’m going to make it thick enough to be as close to level as possible with the bumpercover, making it as aero as possible.
I made 6 attachment wires using standard 12 gauge home wiring, leaving the coating attached. They were about 4” (10 cm) long and had a ‘V’ bend of about ½” (1.5 cm) on one end. I poked holes in the grill block where I wanted to have the wires attach. I put the long/straight end of the wire through the grill block and used the V end to ‘hook’ onto a section of the honeycomb grill. Moving one side of the grill to the other, so I was working with 2 wires at a time (upper one and lower one on each side of the grill and 2 in the middle). Back the grill block near the grill and hook the wires onto the back of the honeycomb grill. I then pressed the grill block tight and used needle nose pliers to put a 90 degree bend in the wire tight to the grill block, to hold the grill block tight to the grill. Total time including getting materials together maybe 20 minutes. I did this on the gravel driveway with the dog dropping slimy tennis balls onto my lap.
Yeah, not fancy or pretty but has worked great all week, no shifting or signs of coming loose at all. I also figured this simple attachment method would be a really quick un-install, even on the highway if it started to make the engine overheat. No tools needed just bend the wires up and pull off.
This has worked better than my expectations and I’m actually thinking of making a permanent quick-mount system in the front end. It would require drilling a few 3mm or 4mm holes and attaching 4 thumbscrew type fasteners around the upper grill opening.
groar 11-22-2008, 03:24 AM voodoo22, I just completed my thread on my scenic modding on EM.com : groar's 2001 Scenic Modding Thread (http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/groars-2001-scenic-modding-thread-5505.html)
Denis.
voodoo22 11-23-2008, 08:30 AM voodoo22, I just completed my thread on my scenic modding on EM.com : groar's 2001 Scenic Modding Thread (http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/groars-2001-scenic-modding-thread-5505.html)
Denis.
Looks interesting, I'm going to have to sign up on that site so I can see your pictures. Thanks Denis.
voodoo22 12-03-2008, 07:35 PM I don't know how long this can last (probably until the real winter weather comes), but I've managed to start a new streak of 4 tanks over 50 US MPG, even with the much colder winter weather, snow, ice rain and puddles of water on the road many days.
We've cut out nearly all short trips and that's the major reason I think I've been able to keep above the 50 mark, especially on the last 2 tanks. The thing that surprises me the most about this recent streak is that 3 1/2 of the 4 tanks are on winter tires. I am very impressed with the Nokian rSI's for their performance in very bad weather and their FE.
I doubt this streak will last long, but it's fun while it lasts.
So far I've traveled:
3428.8 kms using 154.416 litres which adds up to:
22.2 km/l or 4.5 l/100km or 52.2 US MPG
voodoo22 01-02-2009, 08:13 AM My winter streak of 50+ US MPG ended at 5 tanks.
4376.1kms traveled using 197.477 litres which translates to 4.51 l/100km or 52.15 US mpg.
I made it from October 31 until December 30th and then got a 48.5mpg tank. Not disastrous, and we haven't had 2 solid weeks of winter yet, when that happens, I'll probably sink a little lower.
voodoo22 03-12-2009, 10:12 AM I filled in yesterday and was pleased to log my first 50+ US mpg tank of 2009.
I had a great winter, not once dropping below the 47 US mpg mark.
Hopefully this last tank was the beginning of a new streak, but the weather over the next few days will not help keep that dream alive as there is not much margin when it comes to weather/driving conditions to get safely over 50 US mpg on this car.
My major goal for this year is to average over 50 US mpg for the entire year.
philmcneal 03-12-2009, 11:14 AM well played voodoo, when i visit scarbourough, you gotta show me how RR is done, because I haven't have a clue how to do it, but at the same time not get the law enforcement invovled....
what are your rpms when your trying to cruise at 90 km/hr? I believe the 5spds are boched with shorter gear ratios :(
props for crusing at 90 km/hr on toronto highways when everyone wants to go 100 km/hr plus.
WoodyWoodchuck 03-12-2009, 11:17 AM My goal is to get one 50+ mpg tank! As soon as I can figure out how to get that milestone behind me watch out Voodoo22……
:Banane36:
Congratulations and I hope you can make that goal. :Banane48:
voodoo22 03-13-2009, 10:32 AM well played voodoo, when i visit scarbourough, you gotta show me how RR is done, because I haven't have a clue how to do it, but at the same time not get the law enforcement invovled....
what are your rpms when your trying to cruise at 90 km/hr? I believe the 5spds are boched with shorter gear ratios :(
props for crusing at 90 km/hr on toronto highways when everyone wants to go 100 km/hr plus.
HI Phil,
my RPMs are between 2-2500 rpm depending on wind and slope of the road, but I'd guess they're at about 2200 in normal conditions. I know it's about 2000 rpm when cruising at 80 km/h.
Really? Law enforcement gets on your case about RR? I RR all the time except when it's raining or there are potholes in the way. I find the tracks have less water in them on the 401 because of all the traffic, during rain. I've had a lot of OPP pass me and look at me while I'm going 80-90 km/h and ridge riding, I look at them and they move on.
What rpms are you running at with your 5 speed at 90?
voodoo22 03-13-2009, 10:39 AM My goal is to get one 50+ mpg tank! As soon as I can figure out how to get that milestone behind me watch out Voodoo22……
:Banane36:
Congratulations and I hope you can make that goal. :Banane48:
Thanks!
Getting near 50 US mpg means you're already doing most things right. From my experience, what put me over the top was:
1) Driving a little slower 80-90km/h.
2) Never using the A/C
3) Cutting out any unnecessary short trips made it possible to get over 50 in the winter when the weather wasn't too cold and combining necessary shorter trips
I hardly ever use my brakes on the hwy during my commute. Maybe once per round trip.
All the little things will add up to your success, don't give up!:woot:
philmcneal 03-14-2009, 04:42 PM HI Phil,
my RPMs are between 2-2500 rpm depending on wind and slope of the road, but I'd guess they're at about 2200 in normal conditions. I know it's about 2000 rpm when cruising at 80 km/h.
Really? Law enforcement gets on your case about RR? I RR all the time except when it's raining or there are potholes in the way. I find the tracks have less water in them on the 401 because of all the traffic, during rain. I've had a lot of OPP pass me and look at me while I'm going 80-90 km/h and ridge riding, I look at them and they move on.
What rpms are you running at with your 5 speed at 90?
i wish my bimmer had a 5spd -_-; the epa rates my bimmer 1 mpg higher on the highway than the 4spd auto i have unfortnately.
I didn't really have a choice on the car as it was given to me
But looks like my gear ratios are similar to yours, at 80 km/hr its 2000 rpms, and 2700 rpms it at 100 km/hr. But for 120 km/hr its around 3100 rpms... so for an extra 20 km/hr the increase in rpms seems like its worth it.
For the fuel consumption gauge on the bimmer its 6L/100 km at 100 km/hr. Right now i'm doing tests to determine if the extra 12 cents for 91 octane is worth it or switch back to 87 octane. (Haven't gotten a chance to do 0-100 km/hr time tests, since last time I tested that run it clocked at 10. something seconds on 87.
I dunno the car is a mess right now, I barely drive it because I still need to fix it. I still miss the Prius but right now papa is using it back west, then again the handling of the bimmer is a different story ;)
If it was a 5spd however, I wouldn't miss the Prius for even a second since its mostly highway here in Simcoe.
98CRV 03-14-2009, 06:05 PM This is an absolutely delightful thread. I was stunned when I saw that voodoo22 is doing his magic without a sgii. I wonder if it would help or hurt. Wow.
drummerboy2004 03-21-2009, 10:05 PM This is an absolutely delightful thread. I was stunned when I saw that voodoo22 is doing his magic without a sgii. I wonder if it would help or hurt. Wow.
It would probably help, but might take about an eon to gain back the money used to buy the Scanguage given the size (or lack thereof) of the increase. I have a Scanguage II my self, and must commend Voodoo for getting such mileage without it:D
Matt
voodoo22 04-07-2009, 06:02 PM Thanks guys, but it's pretty easy for me on my commute. It's mostly about the discipline to plan things out, drive only when necessary and to never speed while driving below the speed limit and never speeding.
I now have 3 tanks in a row over the 50 mark for this year. I hope to keep it going through this cold stretch that we're experiencing now with snow etc and if I can hold onto this streak until the summer gas comes and the winter tires are off I think I might put together a streak better than last years 11 tank run which didn't start until June, when I started to take my driving habits to another level.
We're hoping to move next year, so this might be my last chance to put together a long streak with this favorable commute, but who knows. If we move, maybe my next commute will be even better for FE by not having to use the Yaris at all. Oh to dream.
So far for this streak I've managed:
4.67 l/100km or 50.34 MPG
4.55 l/100km or 51.67 MPG
4.65 l/100km or 50.40 MPG
over a distance of 2584.7 km's or 1606 miles.
This also means 19 of my last 25 tanks have been over 50 US MPG
I haven't done worse than 47 US MPG over the past 26 tanks since last May when we went on a long trip to Washington DC and I lost all discipline.
Over the past 21985 kms I have used 1015 litres of gas for a standing total of 4.62 l/100km or 50.93 US MPG over 13661 miles.
It's great to see these numbers add up knowing that only positive goes in and positive goes out.
I'm less stressed on the commute
We plan our use of the car more efficiently
We're saving money on gas and wear and tear on the car
According to conservative calculations we're saving over a dozen trips to the gas station per year
I feel like I'm reinforcing all the hard work done by Wayne and other leaders on this site
Polluting as little as possible considering we're using a car
Most importantly, increasing my safety level and others around me on the road. This driving style has made me a better driver in all aspects and I can only keep improving.
PaleMelanesian 04-08-2009, 08:44 AM never speed while driving below the speed limit and never speeding.
So, you think driving slower helps? :p
voodoo22 04-08-2009, 11:43 AM So, you think driving slower helps? :p
It's kind of a wild card at this point.;)
voodoo22 05-14-2009, 01:31 PM I just filled in for my 6th straight 50+ US MPG tank this year and was pleasantly surprised to have a new PB tank which is going to be really hard for me to beat...
859 km's using 36.714 litres for 4.274 l/100km or
55.019 US MPG!! :eek:
I knew I was having a good tank and I knew it was threatening my previous record, but I didn't know it was this good.
I don't always get to use the same pump, but I try to and I have for the past few months fill ups, so this appears to be legit. It's almost like the re92's heard me complain that my best tank was until this point, using our winter tires.
Current streak:
6 tanks traveling over 5176.5 km's, using 234.474 litres of gas for 4.529 l/100kms or 51.915 MPG per tank.
If we ever move, I know I will not have a shot at these numbers as they are a by product of my arduous commute.
98CRV 05-14-2009, 02:01 PM I just filled in for my 6th straight 50+ US MPG tank this year and was pleasantly surprised to have a new PB tank which is going to be really hard for me to beat...
859 km's using 36.714 litres for 4.274 l/100km or
55.019 US MPG!! :eek:
I knew I was having a good tank and I knew it was threatening my previous record, but I didn't know it was this good.
I don't always get to use the same pump, but I try to and I have for the past few months fill ups, so this appears to be legit. It's almost like the re92's heard me complain that my best tank was until this point, using our winter tires.
Current streak:
6 tanks traveling over 5176.5 km's, using 234.474 litres of gas for 4.529 l/100kms or 51.915 MPG per tank.
If we ever move, I know I will not have a shot at these numbers as they are a by product of my arduous commute.
You got 55 mpg with a bleeping automatic! Stout! :Banane27:
WoodyWoodchuck 05-14-2009, 02:19 PM Yeah, these auto yari have been beating the pants off us manual tranny folks. It is not a pretty situation and one I hope to soon remedy!!! A couple more tanks and I should have a firm grasp on P&G for my daily commute. With good weather and some luck I’ll break 55 and then shoot for a 60 mpg tank. 200% of EPA is 65 MPG in my buggy, a mighty high target for sure.
Congratulations and I hope you can break 55 for several tanks in a row!
JusBringIt 05-14-2009, 02:30 PM great job on the accomplishment! Many more to come. I'm also sure once you learn your next commute (it might take some time), you'll figure out a nice route and be able to manage it effectively. I'm still learning the one I've had for the last couple months....which will change later this year.
voodoo22 05-15-2009, 07:38 AM Thanks guys, it's great to have a forum where you can feel good about these sorts of things.
Hey Woody, I have no doubt a MT could break 60 if conditions were near perfect the the driver was well disciplined, don't give up on that goal. Given the composition of my last tank, I'm not confident I could break 56 or maybe even 57 in the AT, given I had a few more shortish trips than I would have liked and there was some cool rainy, windy weather involved.
I'm looking forward to seeing someone break 60 in a Yaris soon.
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