View Full Version : Repairing Tires, plugging and inflation above sidewall
Bob64 08-10-2008, 06:01 PM Hello all,
Whats the general consensus on plugged tires and sidewall/above sidewall pressures?
Are plugged tires safe at sidewall/above sidewall pressures?
Background:
5000 miles ago, I hit a nail on one of my tires and got it plugged... now I've noticed that the plug is slowly leaking a bit... Lost nearly 5psi in one day.
Should I try to get it re-plugged?
ILAveo 08-10-2008, 06:12 PM Might be worth it to try replugging. I haven't noticed any problems with increasing pressures on my plugged tires. Occasionally a plug just doesn't take right, but sometimes you have a ragged or large hole that won't plug. If you're a D-I-Yer pay attention while they plug your tire and you'll know how to do it yourself next time--it's really pretty easy and quick.
Thumper 08-10-2008, 06:13 PM I am currently running two tires with plugs @ max sidewall psi (51) without any problems.
digidug 08-10-2008, 06:45 PM I've had one plug in for over a month. No problem here. I keep them at max sidewall (44PSI).
Boston Man 08-10-2008, 08:19 PM I hope you got it patched and plugged. Just Plugging is an incorrect way of repairing a tire and is what hacks do.
I would not ride on a plugged tire even on recommended PSI. A Patched and plugged tire is practically good as new.
ILAveo 08-10-2008, 08:53 PM I hope you got it patched and plugged. Just Plugging is an incorrect way of repairing a tire and is what hacks do.
I would not ride on a plugged tire even on recommended PSI. A Patched and plugged tire is practically good as new.
I'm a Million mile plug driving hack then.:p
I've been plugging tires for many many, years, with great success. So far, only one of these tires has developed a minor leak. A hack is a taxicab driver. I'm not a hack.
DocOc 08-11-2008, 02:01 PM sry for the hijack.
i've noticed this with my plugged tire: although the pressure has not dropped, the plug itself has gotten more pinched at the hole and i dont really understand why this would happen.
PaleMelanesian 08-11-2008, 02:05 PM At least one of Wayne's tires has a plug in it. 101,000 miles and inflated above sidewall the whole time.
A024523 08-11-2008, 02:08 PM Bob, 5 psi/day is significant loss, so I would have it corrected, or even a full patch if possible. I had a patch done 800 miles ago after running over a screw, and have had 50 psi (44 is max) ever since without any air loss.
lightfoot 08-11-2008, 03:25 PM Hello all,
Whats the general consensus on plugged tires and over/hyperinflation?
Are plugged tires safe at sidewall/above sidewall pressures?
Could we please NOT call sidewall pressure "overinflation"??? We spent a lot of effort dealing with the AAA's accusations, explaining that sidewall pressure is not "over", so please let's AVOID that terminology here???
If someone is going above sidewall, just call it "above sidewall" to avoid the perjorative "over".
PaleMelanesian 08-11-2008, 03:33 PM roger that. edited.
Bob64 08-11-2008, 11:00 PM -edit- snip -edit-
Yeah, I DO realize that 5psi a day is a LOT...which is why I've brought up this topic instead of blindly pumping my leaky tire up everyday. I wasn't sure if plugs could handle the pressure or if they normally leak after a temporary period of time.
Anyway, I've researched the basics of plugging a tire myself to educate myself on basic tire repair and have decided to attempt a re-repair.... and save myself some money while I'm at it.
Hi Bob64:
___What does your tire say on the sidewall? Maximum is not "Over". Maximum speed limit is maximum not over. Follow Lightfoot’s lead as stated.
___CleanMPG members have spent thousands of Dollars and many hundreds of hours battling this in the various print and video media outlets for the betterment of all and we just don’t need to keep fighting it when the battle is essentially won. The fires are still ready to be stoked from the few embers still hanging around so do not let them flare up with misinterpretation.
___Good Luck
___Wayne
Bob64 08-11-2008, 11:44 PM I see your point.
Suggest you make a glossary entry for overinflation :P
fuzzy 08-11-2008, 11:52 PM In a world of shallow sound-bites, a good- or at least benign-sounding name is essential to avoid losing the public relations battle.
Personally, I'm inflating my tires to the pressure required for their maximum load rating, thus giving me the greatest possible load safety margin. I.e., at lower pressure, the tire cannot safely carry as much weight.
Of course, that doesn't fit in a sound bite. Some brainstorming is in order.
--Dean
Tochatihu 08-12-2008, 10:38 PM Tires have their maximum capability at sidewall pressure. Operators may chose to operate their tires at reduced capability for comfort on the road or other personal choices.
More of a brief shower than a brainstorm. Take over from there...
DAS
Excellent topic!
I have 2 patches - the tire people actually take off the tire, patch the hole and mount and balance the tire(if needed).
I have my tires at 60psig and the side wall max is 51psig.:D
No issues here. One patch was last year and the other patch was Tuesday this week. I have a total of 36k on the tires off the showroom floor with 5/32 of tread remaining.:D
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