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Can you hypermile a turbo 5 spd car? There's a nice 1995 MR2 Turbo on Craigslist for $3600! - Mint, no rust, all options - a nice toy car! Requires Premium. EPA rated 18 / 25. So gas will hurt. I wanna FAS P & G on it - can this be done on a turbo 5 speed car? Or will the turbo break? Ok to bump start too, right?

Anyone here hypermiling a turbo 5 speed manual?

no. you can't hypermile one of those. ;) :p I'd love to try it, actually.

I'm not sure about the turbo part. You might want to avoid going straight from running boost to FAS, but otherwise you should fine.

Bump start should be fine.

Being a 1995, it's still not SG compatible. :(

It's a small, lightweight car. That's a bonus. If you stay out of boost, it's just a small car with a small engine. Good potential.

Hi 99HXCivic:

___You can but if you have the choice, stay the hell away from it. It simply has to low an FE rating and when you start on the bottom, it is a lot tougher to reach the sky vs. starting from near the top and you are already half way there. In other words, turbo and premium fuel, that would be a very poor purchase in today’s environment and possibly even worse in tomorrows?

___Good Luck

___Wayne

It's gonna hurt driving it. A 45 mile Saturday drive might cost $9. It would only be a Saturday fun car. Maybe I should skip it but it's probably a collector's item. Always garaged by probably the original owner.

0-60 in 6.2 secs. I'm gonna burn rubber!

Hi 99HXCivic:

___All I can add is this is a mistake. Burning rubber can mean all kinds of things and 99.9% of them are not good.

___As for being a collector’s item … An MR2 that retailed for $25 - $30K new and it’s going for $3,600 just 10 years later? Doesn’t sound like the collector demand is going to be there in another 10 to me?

___For your own sake, think with your head before thinking with the other parts that have more to do with want than need.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

lol i dunno wayne judging from the list of cars you owned... i don't think you ever experienced crazy horsepower have you?

Hi Phil:

___With 55 mph Interstates throughout the Chicago area, I never knew what the need for HP was :D

___Come to think of it, I have been through about half the sates in the country the past 6 months and I am still trying to figure out what 125+ HP vehicle is good for other than to throw more gas into :confused:

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Wayne, I will say that more than 125 HP can be a lot of fun. (Then again, my cars average less than 100 HP between the two of them.) But it's certainly not intended for Hypermiling.

HX, we have one Turbo Scooby driver here that believes that FAS is responsible for fuel contamination in his oil. So be careful and check frequently if you try FAS'ing in that Mister Two; it is possible that turbo engine management and FAS don't play well together.

Those MR-2s are nice, but they're waaaaaay too heavy! ;)

-soD

fuel contamination is from running rich, like turbo cars do.

I had a mitsubishi starion (still have it with a cracked head actually)
and now I understand why most manufacturers no longer use turbos.
(except on diesels)

think of it as having a small space heater under your hood.
and a reason for the computer to throw even more fuel at the inectors

if you want the car buy it. drive it rarely and don't use it daily.
if you want a hypermiler keep what you have.

new thought if you really want a cool fun high mpg mid-rear experience go back to the 80s and get a non turbo first gen MR2... lots of fun and very frugal.

You can pretty much Hypermile any vehicle. There are plenty that just happen to be better for fuel mileage than the Turbo MR2.
I have a Volvo Turbo station wagon (362K) for my daily driver that I'm having fun Hypermiling. Needless to say I have been looking around at other vehicles to replace it with. 22-23 mpg is very good for this car but not good enough to make me happy.

I used to "hypermile" my Subaru Outback XT (before we traded it for the MMH). If you are hypermiliing a car like that, you should NEVER use the boost because it will kill your FE. In that case, you should be able to get by on regular gas vs. premium.

However, if you are going to spend all of your time below the boost, what is the point of a turbo car? (which is basically the reason we traded in the Sub).

1) Buy the cheap car

2) Convert to really excellent EV

3) Trounce our FE with Wh/mi

Hi Tim:
1) Buy the cheap car

2) Convert to really excellent EV

3) Trounce our FE with Wh/mi
___And how!

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Can you hypermile a turbo 5 spd car? There's a nice 1995 MR2 Turbo on Craigslist for $3600! - Mint, no rust, all options - a nice toy car! Requires Premium. EPA rated 18 / 25. So gas will hurt. I wanna FAS P & G on it - can this be done on a turbo 5 speed car? Or will the turbo break? Ok to bump start too, right?

Anyone here hypermiling a turbo 5 speed manual?

yes sir you can..... got an SRT4 and been hypermiling for about 3 month now with nice results.... as of last week 28mpg combined (from 23.5) and trips of 30-32 mpg city (epa 19mpg) and 45-46 hwy ( epa 28 mpg ). SGII and P&G, NICE-ON coasting, Distant draft, DWL, DWB. It is a 2.4 liter, 4 cylinder, 230hp with a 5 speed close ratio tranny. low profile tires with 38psi and a 12.5 gal tank. Week conmute 180 miles with 35-45% city. hope this helps....:)

The car looks really excellent! The seller took a long time to reply, I wonder if it's a scam. Here are the pics - http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/cristineshade79/

It's seems like this car has no trunk space! So it's only good as a toy car?

Can anyone carfax this or check if it's stolen? VIN number: JT2SW22N9S0098758

Here's the email reply, sounds scammy if they have to ship it --

I'm really sorry for this late reply but I've been very busy lately and away from a computer. The car is in excellent running and body condition, no flaws on it or any other mechanical problems. It has a clear title and it will be signed and notarized on your name as soon as the payment will be completed. This was my husband's car who passed away
4 months ago and it only brings me bad memories. I only hope to find a good home for it and to be taken care of like my husband did. I believe $3,600(not negotiable) with all shipping fee anywhere in the continental US included is more than a fair price.
I will tell you a few words about it. 1995 Turbo MR2 in immaculate condition with 82,400 miles, VIN number: JT2SW22N9S0098758, rust free, no scratch and hasn't been involved in any accident. Engine is a 2.0L I4 MPI with manual trans. The interior looks great (never smoked in). This car needs nothing.
I want this transaction to go smoothly enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have little time at my disposal. I already have tons of emails so I hope you understand that I need to sort them out. I will take in consideration only those buyers who are really interested in buying the car, to be sure that I don't waste my time with endless discussions. This way, I shall be assured of the serious intentions.

So all of you with a turbo do FAS P&G and bump starts too?

I wonder what part of Nigeria this car is "located" in.

Turbos are expensive and break easily...even on diesels. I get MAF warnings about once a month when i punch the turbo down hard on my TDI....im waiting for the day when she doesnt come back and its $1500 out the door for a new one. Advice...avoid them if possible. The best way to hypermile is to walk, use a bike, use the phone, ship via USPS, basically dont drive if you dont have too....yah!

It's a sketchy deal and I'll have to skip this dream toy car. Here's her follow up email -

As I told you in my first e-mail, I lost my husband in an accident 4 months ago and I was badly injured. I have problems with my hearing and most of the time have headaches. I'm in Santa Monica now for treatment.
Before leaving I had prearranged the deal with Nationwide Shippers http://nationwide-shippers.com so my presence isn't necessary. The car and all the papers (title,etc..) are in their possession ready for delivery. The shipping company will hold the payment until the car is delivered and inspected. You will have 3 days to test and inspect it. If it's not as described or if the title is not clear or whatever problem you may find and we can't work it out, the car will be returned and your payment will be refunded. If you accept it, the papers will be signed and notorized, and they will release the funds to me.
Quite simple and fast. So if you want to purchase the car please go to http://nationwide-shippers.com/search.php and follow the instructions.

Stay away. This is a scam.

In the USA, there were only about 800 MR2s sold in 1995. It's the rarest year of the MR2. In turbo form, in clean condition, these things sell for over $10,000 still. $3600 is more like what you'd pay for a 1991-1993.

I drove a 1991 turbo and a 1993 turbo for a few years. If you drive with any aggressiveness (which I did, back then), you will average 20-22mpg. If you drive like a normal person, 25mpg. Hypermiling, the best I achieved was about 31mpg. I think with some advanced techniques, you could hit 40, but I wasn't willing to shut off the engine and coast in a turbocharged car. (The oil stops flowing to the turbo and can ruin it fairly quickly.)

These are also expensive cars to own. By this point, they start breaking in expensive ways, so it'll require a lot of upkeep. Also, most of them are driven hard their whole lives. No one babies these cars.

Anyway, the one you found appears to be a scam. There probably isn't even a car at all, the guy is just looking for suckers. I see a lot of these on craigslist.

I would think you wouldn't want to FAS a turbo because shutting off the engine would result in shutting off the oil pump, leaving the turbo spinning tens of thousands of RPMs with no oil. Many owners of turbos install "turbo timers" to keep the engine running for an extra minute or so after they turn the ignition to the off position and exit the car. This prevents premature wear on the turbo.

That's why you should idle the engine for a little before FASing -- that way the turbo spins down (if you even engaged it in the first place).

no. you can't hypermile one of those. ;) :p I'd love to try it, actually.

I'm not sure about the turbo part. You might want to avoid going straight from running boost to FAS, but otherwise you should fine.

Bump start should be fine.

Being a 1995, it's still not SG compatible. :(

It's a small, lightweight car. That's a bonus. If you stay out of boost, it's just a small car with a small engine. Good potential.

is ScanGuage any better then a built in one. My car has a built in fuel monitoring system that tells me amount of range I have as well as avg and current gas millage.

Ok, I'l skip getting any turbo car for hypermiling. I guess a good toy car for weekends would be a BMW 330Ci or 330i 01 or 02 stick.

How much fun do you need? How much maintenance do you want to do? Some of the older sports cars (or "sporty" cars) can post up pretty decent numbers. My CRX is one example--30 MPG without really trying, up almost to 45 MPG for a couple of my recent tanks. And it's indecently fun to throw around, though it isn't exactly over-powered.

The only real downside is that its getting close to 20 years (and 200K miles!) old, which means that "stuff" is wearing out, or has worn out and I've had to replace it. Oh, and the fact that there's no back seat--but that's not a downside, to me! :D

-soD

I had a 90 Jackson Racing modded Civic Si that was maybe 7 secs fast 0-60 at 27 mpg heavy flogging. I miss it!