05-07-2008, 07:52 PM
has anyone tried this? I've seen the videos and read the claims but the wife is against me hooking up mason jars to my motor. what do you do when its freezing. how much to wrap the exhaust in ceramic? Any comments, I'm fascinated by this Idea.
05-07-2008, 08:13 PM
Well, between the water-for-fuel, the magic 100 MPG carburetor, the fuel line magnets, and all of those other "wonderful" ebay devices you can order, I figure we all should be making about 250+ MPG by now!!
There's been some debate over if there might be some possible way that the "water for gas" stuff may sort of work under some circumstances, but I don't buy it. My opinion: Snake oil all the way.
05-07-2008, 08:16 PM
It does seem to good to be true. I figured this would be the place to get some unbiased opinions and facts.
05-08-2008, 06:59 PM
Something you have to realize (anyone who wants to invoke the law of thermodynamics) is that one of the principles of this is that the HHO isn't only used as a fuel, but also helps the gasoline burn more completely. I'm working on this project with a friend who also says it will burn less oil because the presence of hydrogen will make the fuel ignite closer to top dead center. We have a hydrogen "generator" right now running out of 316L stainless steel wire but have not put it in a vehicle yet.
05-09-2008, 12:37 PM
I'm still very skeptical. Try it and let us know. Also tell us what kind of changes you made to the engine-management system (fuel injection and ignition control) to take advantage of the "HHO". (I hate that term, BTW. It's H2O, or 2xH2 + O2 once the hydrogen is dissociated from the oxygen.)
I am willing to believe that, at least in theory, injecting hydrogen into the combustion chamber might be of some advantage. It might, possibly, even allow you to free up more energy than it takes to power the alternator enough to generate enough energy to generate hydrogen from water. (Using more of the energy in the gasoline, not necessarily using the hydrogen-burning engergy.) But I'm willing to bet a shiny nickel that the process of generating the hydrogen and getting it into the combustion chamber is complex enough, lossy enough, and non-linear enough that you're not going to see any noticeable gains at all.