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  1. dancote

    dancote New Member

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    Found this site while looking for a good deal on a Scanguage II. We're getting decent mileage with our car but looking for further improvement. I don't see us becoming hypermilers but it's nice to see what others have accomplished.

    Pleasantly surprised to find fellow smart enthusiasts here. We got our 2008 Passion Coupé on January 23rd from smart center Seattle (their 4th delivery).
     
  2. Ptero

    Ptero Hydrogen Nut, Battery Skeptic

    I drove a round trip from Bakersfield to Sacramento and back a few days ago in my ForTwo Pure. Got 49.9 mpg on Hy 5. I'm pretty light on the pedal, leave early so as never to be rushed, go with the flow in traffic (hit 70 mph a few times) but try to stay at 55 or below when safe -- which is often once outside Stockton/Sacramento. Did you see that article by some bozo that was posted today? I enjoy my Pure tremendously and look forward to driving it every time. Better mileage than any other gas car, by the way. What gives with these bozos?
     
  3. basjoos

    basjoos Well-Known Member

    This statement needs to be qualified to "Better mileage than any other new non-hybrid gasoline car currently sold in the United States". The late 80's/early 90's Geo Metro/Chevy Sprint and the early 90's Honda Civic VX and CX are gas non-hybrid cars that get equal or better mileage than the smart. And that's not including one-of-a-kind modifieds like the car I'm driving that hasn't seen a tank below the low 50's, even after 80mph drives on the interstate. But the smart is the best EPA mileage you can find in a new non-hybrid gas car sold in this country.
     
  4. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    Let's give credit where it's due, only one manufacturer has recently bothered with this market in the USA and Canada (cheap high FE cars) and it is smart.
     
  5. deezle

    deezle Well-Known Member

    dancote:
    You'll find info for mounting the Scangauge II on your smart at the Clubsmartcar site, specifically here.
     
  6. dancote

    dancote New Member

    I've just installed my new ScanGauge II and I'm still playing with the settings. Got lots of good information and advice from the nice folks at ClubSmartCar.com and SmartCarofAmerica.com . Install went very smoothly thanks to forum members there.

    Regards,

    Dan
     
  7. Perscitus

    Perscitus Member

    How I installed the Scangauge above the mirror in my new smart.

    Above mirror no-holes SGII mount

    [xfloat=left]http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/549/SG-II_in_a_SMART_1.jpg[/xfloat]Finally got my ScangaugeII installed, and WOW has it changed my gas mileage. The near-instanteous feedback is great for fine-tuning my handling of the car for wringing out a few more miles out of each gallon. Last two days I've been averaging over 50mpg. The EPA for the smart per the window sticker is 33 city, 41 hwy.

    My Scangauge II is mounted although it is not fully calibrated yet (haven't been to the pump for a fill-up and initial set). Here are some photos and install notes.

    I solved the A-pillar cover removal problem by not needing to remove it at all. Instead I found a flat black ethernet cable that can be easily slid into the narrow slot between the pillar plastic & windshield glass. Even if should it stick out a bit for you, it is invisible against the black enamel coating around the edge of the glass. I found this cable at Cyberguys where I buy a lot of computer stuff. It's part #119-6410, $4.45. I also got an RJ45 coupler (#180-0500, $0.85).

    The cable is 10' long, about 5/16" wide and flatter than a phone line. Even allowing extra inches where it comes out from between the glass and the panel above the mirror (can be pushed back under the panel once the Scangauge is mounted), I have more than a foot left at the other end below the OBD port where I coupled to the SG cable & stowed the excess.

    Remove all the screws (you'll need two sizes of Torx drivers) holding the "overhead control panel" plastic (this means removing the sun visors too). Loosen the back end of the panel by getting your fingertips between the headliner and plastic at the extreme right and left ends and bending the panel end out towards the rear of the car. There's only a little tab of plastic clipping the panel to the piece over the door. Push the panel forward about an inch and it will drop down held up only by the electrical wires feeding the dome light and passenger airbag monitor.

    Making sure I had enough extra cable coming out right above the mirror, I taped the flat ethernet cable in a few spots along the steel frame leading it over to the A-pillar. I removed the screw in the over-door covering at this point and put the cable behind it, then replaced the screw, figuring this would retain the cable in place at the upper end of the A-pillar. You can replace the overhead control panel now, fitting in the front edge first which has four tabs that go into slots in the metal frame.



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    The cable slips easily in the small space between windshield and A-pillar. If the fit between glass and plastic on your car doesn't hold the cable in place, wedge it in with a narrow strip of cardboard, plastic or perhaps a dab or two of clear plastic cement.

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    At the lower end go all the way out to end of the pillar cover before bringing the cable back in the crack between dash and door edge.

    I removed the few screws (including the one fastening the OBD port shrouding) holding the bottom edge of the padded dash so I could push the cable in behind where it wouldn't fall back out, then replaced the screws.

    Plug in the cable that came with the Scangauge into the D-shaped OBD jack, and loop it around so it comes out where your ethernet cable comes out (past the last screw). Connect your two cables with the coupler and coil up the excess. There is room behind the plastic shrouding just to the right of the accelerator pedal to store the coiled cables.

    I removed the screw in the side of the plastic just to the right of the pedal. and inserted a piece of thin metal flat bar about 4" long, with a hole near the end for the screw to pass thru, to serve as a retainer behind which to tuck the cabling. You can easily remove your Scangauge and its cable to use in another vehicle, without disturbing any of the ethernet cable.

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    I put both pieces of velcro that came with the SG on the top of the unit, plugged in the ethernet cable into the back port, and adhered it right above the mirror, moved forward enough so that it is right up tight against the mirror mount. This gives me a little extra insurance if I press the buttons too hard, as it's not just the velcro I'm pushing against.

    Sorry I didn't get a picture of the upper panel off to put here...
     
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  8. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Man -- that is a really nice install!!! :eek:

    I'm impressed! :thumbs_up:
     

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