New smart owner intro

Discussion in 'Mercedes-Benz' started by Mike T, Mar 6, 2008.

  1. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Deezle, I meant with a manual transmission in the US... we can only get them with the automated manual transmission here. I'd rather have full control myself as I can wring way better mileage out of a car with one. That's aside from the fact that we can't get the diesel engine here... :(
     
  2. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    There is no room in the footwell for a clutch pedal. The gearbox is the weirdest thing about this car, but you get used to it, and can come to appreciate it. I am a 100% manual driver too, my new B 200 has one, as do my two other cars.
     
  3. deezle

    deezle Well-Known Member


    Right Lane Cruiser, fear not---it IS a manual transmission, but with an automatic clutch and electronic shifter. You can choose whatever gear you want and hook up your scanguage to show you how you're doing. It's an unusual transmission---the best thing is to just go to a dealership and spend some time with one--- but I think you will have pretty much all the control you want over your rpm's and driving style (except perhaps pulse-and-glide).
    BTW, the U.S. and Canadian smarts being sold now are identical--- the diesel version is no longer available here.
     
  4. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Deezle, I'm aware of how it works but P&G is one of those things I just can't live without for pulling the most out of a vehicle. I'm sure I'd do well but that last bit of optimization just isn't there... largely because you can't bump start. :(

    You can't get the diesel there anymore?? That's terrible! :eek:
     
  5. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    Can't bump start? Huh? What are you on about?
     
  6. Stimus

    Stimus Member

    Cool car and so right for the times! Congratulations and welcome!

    Saw my first Smart Fortwo in the flesh today - the driver was pulling into the parking deck at work. It was a hardtop and was a real head turner in a snazzy red/orange color.
     
  7. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Mike, I get a lot out of my cars by turning the engine off and coasting whenever possible (FASing). When I want to get the engine going again most of the time I can "bump start" (also known as "clutch start") it. This is not possible with the automated manual in the SMART because there is no way to manually modulate the clutch.
     
  8. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    Have you tried one? The car can be "bump started" if the battery is nearly flat, as the clutch engages automatically at about 5 km/h. It says so in the owner's manual.
     
  9. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    Back on topic, my car got treated to some new front fenders that I had bought a year ago in Germany (well actually my German friend picked them up for me and stored them at his place for a year in the attic), when I brought them back as checked luggage in the plane a just over 2 weeks ago.

    The difference between the new and the old ones is that the side marker light that was cut into the fender for Canadian certification is missing, replaced by a more subtle but still visible indicator repeater/side marker. I like the look a lot better - compare it to the photo on the first page of this thread.

    The rear fenders were also changed about 2 years ago, for the same reason....

    The green panels on this car are all coloured-through plastic, so rock chips may "chip" but there is no change in colour at the chip site. Quite nice. My 3.5 year old original fenders had a few tiny rock nicks in them, nothing worth mentioning.

    The coloured-through panels were discontinued by smart shortly after this vehicle went out of production, at the end of 2006...now they only supply flat black ones that require painting. I'm glad I have coloured-through spares though, even with the Canadian modifications to them.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Really? Is it only when the battery is low? Is this only at low speeds? I ask because I'm always using bump start at speeds over about 8mph to bring the engine back online from a FAS -- often in my P&G routines. That's the flexibility I'm after.

    Sadly, I've not yet had the opportunity to drive one of these cars, though I did sit in one!

    By the way, I agree on the marker lights. You car looks really sharp! :thumbs_up:
     
  11. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    It can be bump started if the battery is good too, but I said "low" battery because the car does need the electronics to engage the clutch at 5 km/h.

    You ought to test drive one and try out your somewhat interesting techniques on it. I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

    About the side marker lights, you should have seen the original Canadian market ones. Huge orange reflectors instead of the clear LED thing I replaced it with. The CDN smart club refers to them as "orange slices"...

    The European side marker/repeater is the best look for the car, of course. In Europe these are only turn signal repeaters but on my car it's both a side marker and a turn signal repeater.
     
  12. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    At nearly 98,000 km, it's time for another service. I do the A Services myself and the B services I take it to the dealer. This time the coolant needs changing, after nearly 4 years, and I may get the external belts replaced too.

    My car requires either an A or B service every 10,000 km, based upon how I drive (the car has a variable service interval), which is 6300 miles. The new gasoline version has a less frequent service interval, 9300 miles apart.
     
  13. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    Well my daughter took the cabrio over the 100,000 km threshold last week. It's been a total gas to own and drive! Its 4th birthday is coming up on November 4th, so we'll have to buy it something nice.
     
  14. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    123,000 km and counting as of today.

    We're sure racking up the distance. It should accelerate in the fall when my daughter starts commuting about 800-1000 km a week (living on campus costs too much). Should hit 160,000 km (100,000 miles) in under a year. Scary!

    What did I buy the car for its 4th birthday?..........hmmmm...........a new fog light to replace a damaged one, yeah! but it was after I gave a Ford F 250 a love tap on an icy road, so that doesn't count. I guess the days of buying $1600 accessory wheels and wide tires as "car gifts" are over now that it's getting old!
     
  15. smart-za

    smart-za Well-Known Member

    Hi Mike,

    Glad to hear your smart is still going strong - it should make a great commuting vehicle for your daughter. Tres chic.

    Did you ever find a way to bump start the smart at speed? I know the usual method for bump starting from a standstill, but I've never come across a method for restarting the engine while in motion (with or without using the starter motor).

    -Simon
     
  16. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    I would never cut the engine while moving, it's too dangerous. Using the fuel cut-off that the car comes with, wisely, does enough to maximise fuel economy for me. People I know elsewhere in Canada can get 2.6 L/100 km or less just by driving super-carefully with no tricks.
     
  17. Harold

    Harold Well-Known Member

    Mike ,when are the diesel's comming back? Hal
     
  18. msantos

    msantos Eco Accelerometrist

    Hi Mike;

    Nice to hear from you again... and also good to know your Smart is adding them up quite well. :D

    Cheers;

    MSantos
     
  19. Mike T

    Mike T smart car dummy

    Never, would be my guess.

    I think we'll be getting the gasoline mhd soon, and the ED version in a couple of years, but I can't see the diesel being re-engineered for North America considering that they'd probably only sell 6000 a year between Canada and the USA combined. The margins on this car are too slim to justify the expense of re-engineering the emissions control.
     

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