2008 SMART Fortwo

Discussion in 'New Automobile Specifications' started by xcel, Nov 1, 2007.

  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

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    Prices

    Pure - $11,590

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    OptionPrice ($USD)
    A/C w/ Auto temp control$600
    Metallic Paint (R, B, S)$225
    Silver colored Tridion cell$175
    Alarm$160
    Panorama roof – Sun shade incl.$350
    Power Steering$450
    Heated Seats$220
    Radio - AM/FM/CD$350
    Premium radio - AM/FM/6CD/MP3$495


    Passion - $13,590

    Column1Column2
    OptionPrice ($USD)
    Metallic Paint (R, B, S)$225
    Silver colored Tridion cell$175
    Alarm$160
    Power Steering$450
    Heated Seats$220
    Fog Lamps$110
    Additional instruments – Analog Clock and Tach$120
    Premium radio - AM/FM/6CD/MP3$150


    Option packages:
    Premium Sound - $350 - Includes Premium Radio w/ 4 speakers and Sub.
    Comfort Package - $850 - Includes Power Steering, Leather Seats, Heated Seats, Rain and Light Sensor and Auto-off headlights w/ exit delay.

    Cabriolet - $16,590

    Column1Column2
    OptionPrice ($USD)
    Metallic Paint (R, B, S)$225
    Silver colored Tridion cell$175
    Alarm$160
    Power Steering$450
    Heated Seats$220
    Fog Lamps$110
    Additional instruments – Analog Clock and Tach$120


    Option packages:
    Comfort Package - $850 - Includes Power Steering, Leather Seats, Heated Seats, Rain and Light Sensor and Auto-off headlights w/ exit delay.

    Specifications

    Engineering:

    Engine Type: In-Line 3-Cylinder
    Engine Block/Cylinder Head: Aluminum-Alloy
    Displacement (l): 1.0
    Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net, Rev 8/04): 70 HP @ 5,800 rpm
    Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm): 68 lb.-ft. @ 4,500 rpm
    Redline (rpm): TBD
    Bore and Stroke (in): 2.83 x 3.22
    Compression Ratio: 10.0:1
    Valvetrain: 4-valve per cyl. - SOHC
    Electronic Multi-Point Fuel Injection
    Rear-wheel Drive
    CARB Emissions Rating: ULEV-2
    Federal Emissions: Tier II/Bin5
    Direct Ignition System with Immobilizer

    Transmissions:

    Gear Ratios

    5-Speed Automated Manual Transmission

    1st: 3.308 2nd: 1.913 3rd: 1.258 4th: 0.943 5th: 0.707 Final Drive: 4.529
    Reverse: 3.231

    Body/Suspension/Chassis:

    Unit-Body Construction
    MacPherson Strut Front Suspension
    DeDion axle Rear Suspension
    Stabilizer Bar (mm., front): TBD mm/none
    Rack-and-Pinion Steering
    Turning Diameter, Curb-to-Curb (ft.): 28.7
    Power-Assisted Ventilated Front Disc/Solid Rear Disc Brakes (in.): 11/8
    Wheels: All-Season Tires: 155/60 R15 Front/175/55 R15 Rear

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    Interior Measurements:

    Headroom (in.): 39.7
    Legroom (in.): 41.2
    Shoulder Room (in.): 48
    Hiproom (in.): 45.4
    Cargo Volume (cu. ft.): 12.0
    Passenger Volume (cu. ft.): 45.4
    Seating Capacity: 2

    Exterior Measurements:

    Wheelbase (in.): 73.5
    Length (in.): 106.1
    Height (in.): 60.71
    Width (in.): 61.38
    Track (in., front/rear): 50.51/54.53
    Coefficient of Drag: 0.34
    Curb Weight (lbs.): 1,808

    08 EPA Mileage Estimates/Capacities:

    5-Speed Automatic Manual (City/Highway): 34/40
    Crankcase (qt.): 3.5 incl. oil filter
    Coolant System (qt.): 4.5.
    Fuel (gal.): 10 gal. – 8.7 gal. w/ 1.3 gal. in reserve
    Required Fuel: Premium Unleaded recommended

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    Last edited: Nov 2, 2007
  2. BailOut

    BailOut My favorite holiday is Earth Day!

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    I'm surprised that with a 3-cylinder, 1.0L engine its emissions are ULEV-2 instead of at least SULEV-2. The FE rating is attractive, though.

    I wonder if I could fit a snowboard in it...
     
  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    Hi Brian:

    ___For the SMART's Mitsubishi ICE to nail SULEV-2, it would need a more efficient and expensive CAT and probably a MAF with yet more controls and expense. I asked although most had no idea what I was talking about. The engineers did and came back with the above. Remember a ULEV rated automobile beats the Yaris, ties the Corolla, beats the Fit and non-hybrid Civic if that helps.

    ___As for a Snowboard, you bet it would with the passenger seat folded forward ;)

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     
  4. BailOut

    BailOut My favorite holiday is Earth Day!

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    Umm... the Yaris is ULEV-2 while carrying a 1.5L i4. This is why I thought the 1.0L i3 in the Smart should be SULEV-2.
     
  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    Hi Brian:

    ___Whoops, the 1.5 in the Yaris matches the SMART and the Corolla. The size of the motor doesn’t matter much in terms of CARB ratings but the CAT, MAF controlling the intake charge and combustion process makes all the difference. Just like Toyota made the Yaris a ULEV while the same block in the Prius-II received the SULEV-2 PZEV treatment, SMART went for the more reasonable cost ULEV treatment as well.

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     
  6. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    My civic, for comparison:
    That's ignoring the back seat, and its fold-down pass-through option, though. I can carry 9-ft lumber if I want. Seriously, though, we have an Odyssey. It'll handle the lumber and the family hauling, this would easily handle me and a laptop and brown-bag lunch. :D
     
  7. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    That's what I'm thinking!!! I'd love to give this thing a workout on my normal routes.
     
  8. MetroMPG

    MetroMPG Well-Known Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    Wayne, did Daimler provide the spec for coefficient of drag?
     
  9. Kermit

    Kermit Active Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    Is the Inline 3 perpindicular with the rear axle? There doesn't look like much room for it to be. That's interesting they made it a RWD vehicle. Atleast maintaining it should be easier (maybe?).
     
  10. BailOut

    BailOut My favorite holiday is Earth Day!

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    Whoa... I just noticed it uses a different tire sizes in the front and rear. This will make it impossible to do a proper tire rotation.
     
  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    Hi Darin:

    ___I have requests in for the tire model (they are Continental’s) but I do not know the model and max sidewall, the Cd and an LCA. I asked the question about the LCA during the theater Q&A and the lead engineer out of Germany said he has that info? Penske thought I was asking about CO2 from tank to wheel and then gave the output for the CDI in Germany :rolleyes: Apparently, SMART is now flooded with requests for the LCA document ;) I do not know when SMART will send back a reply as I asked for those via Phone yesterday and received a call back this morning with only the Brand of tire.

    ___Kermit, the ICE is mounted just in front of and parallel to the rear axle while the ICE is angled to the rear over the axle. It took me a while digging around MB European media site but I found a pic that best describes what I saw at the preview. I hope the following helps as I could not find a cleaner pic and I did not think to take one myself.

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    ___Brian, the SMART was designed that way purposely. Here was the explanation. With the rear engine design, the weight over the larger tire set allows better overall traction into marginal conditions. The fronts however were spec’ed to be thinner which allows for less traction loss by penetrating into snow and ice deeper for improved steering. As for rotation, I will not do it given the scrub factor messing with FE at each and every swap.

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     
  12. saronian

    saronian New Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    I'm finding some really good information on the new smart fortwo on this forum. Thought I would add some tire info.

    Here's what's written on the US Spec tires (from a photo I took, so not all information is visable):

    Front
    ContiProContact
    155/60R15 74T
    Treadwear 400 Traction AA Temperature 4
    Max Load 375KG (827 lbs)

    Rear
    ContiProContact
    175/55R15 77T
     
  13. hobbit

    hobbit He who posts articles

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    Wow, that must be, uh, interesting to work on.
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    _H*
     
  14. featherfoot

    featherfoot Well-Known Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    it's too expensive and takes premium gas. i'm waiting for a diesel or flex fuel version, maybe even a small "el camino" style.
     
  15. MetroMPG

    MetroMPG Well-Known Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    No need to wait! Geo Metro "el Camino conversion":

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    http://palmettofurnishings.com/flatart/My_Homepage_Files/Page5.html

    A fraction of the price, takes regular gas, and will beat the pants off a smart in the hands of a determined hypermiler. :D
     
  16. featherfoot

    featherfoot Well-Known Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    they need to register pimpmygeo.com lol....
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  17. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: 2008 SMART Fortwo.

    Hi Tab:

    ___That “pretty in shocking pink” Metromino almost blinded me it was so bright :D

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     

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