Month of June 2020 (Nat’l Avg $1.978)

Discussion in 'The Daily Grind' started by Gord, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    In that circumstance or on long downhills in the '81 Mazda, I would often coast with engine off, then restart without resorting to the starter. I suppose newer manual vehicles have ways of making that tactic inconvenient. It had an early version of "DFCO." It rolled about as freely as the Prius at lowish speeds (but not at high speeds, due to its much higher aerodynamic drag/weight ratio).
     
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  2. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    It's not all THAT inconvenient. I have done it , but not a lot. I have just made a decision to avoid turning the engine on and off too many times.
    And in our suburbs , I'm lucky to get one good ( or half-assed ) glide in before the next traffic control device.
    It's probably more of a hassle for Andrew , because I think he has a START button , where I have a good-ole-fashioned KEY.
     
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  3. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Last night, motorway route - another great run, hot 87°F, didn't use A/C - had my window and rear passenger window open an inch, partial tailwind SSW10:
    53.8 / 21.4

    Back into work on the bike this morning, 61°F, partial tailwind NE4:
    No fuel / 23.7 / avg 17.7mph - yet another different route

    Tank steady at 50.2 (FCD 53.0) / 547.8 / Range 175 . Guess gauge F____|_«««E . UG up 0.2 at 52.6 / DTE 163
     
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  4. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 65 deg F , didn't notice any wind .
    35.1 miles , fcd = 69.8 ( again) x .943 = 65.8 MPG.
    Tank is at 312.7 miles , fcd = 73.1 x .943 = 68.9 MPG.
    I will drive the Honda tomorrow , maybe all weekend.
     
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  5. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Still bump start my Hyundai manuals.... 2008 Accent & 2016 Elantra.
     
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  6. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    In the Honda today. 72 deg F , a bit of a tailwind.
    35.1 miles , 52.3 MPG (fcd).
    I was at 51 when I got off the highway.
    50-51 MPG is about what I can get at 55 MPH.
    About the same as my 08 Civic 5AT.
     
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  7. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Going home on the bike last night, sweltering 86°F, a welcome headwind ESE10:
    No fuel / 20.3 / avg 17.0mph

    Friday morning, motorway route, 66°F, tailwind E4:
    52.7 / 21.7

    Friday lunchtime, motorway route, 77°F, must be best run for years, crosswind SSW6:
    55.8 (FCD 58.8) / 21.3

    Tank up 0.3 at 50.5 (FCD 53.2) / 590.8 / Range 125 . Guess gauge F____|__««E . UG up 0.3 at 52.9 / DTE 124

    Lost 6th pip (of 8) at 570 miles
     
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  8. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Do you eat & drink more when you take the bike, instead of the motor vehicle?
     
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  9. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    I don’t have any breakfast before I set off (too early) and just drink some tropical squash. I have my usual fruit and yoghurt at 09:30 and a sandwich at 13:00. I probably have a bigger portion for my evening meal to replace those burned calories!
     
  10. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Yeah, when I was young on my bike, I didn’t think my food consumption was a lot higher. But, I did lots of active things. So maybe l ate a bit more than less active kids. I didn’t eat like professional athletes tho.
     
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  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , I drove the Honda from Woodridge.
    70 deg F , no wind.
    23.2 miles , 55.7 MPG (fcd).That's the best trip so far. I did turn off
    engine at a couple of signals. When I checked
    tank Saturday , it was around 50.0 MPG.

    Now I think I will drive the Civic ( to work ) on Mondays and Thursdays.
     
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  12. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Bravo, Edwin!
     
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  13. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Thanks guys. My Fit still has a key so it's business as usual for coasting and bump-starting. It's also 11 years old now!

    How did that happen? It's still the "new" car.
     
  14. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    My 2014 Civic is the "new" car because it only has 80K on the odo.
    The 2015 Prius has 108K.
    I admit that I have not tried bump-starting , at least not since 2008.
    Not sure how many places I can use it in my normal commute.
     
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  15. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    I use a 2-step process for bump starting.

    clutch in
    choose 5th gear
    let the clutch out halfway, just barely enough to engage the engine
    then quickly push the clutch back in while the engine spins up
    then gently let out the clutch like a normal gear shift

    There's a lot less jolt this way, it's gentler on lots of moving parts.
     
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  16. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Called to see mother Saturday morning, 60°F:
    62.2 / 4.4
    44.1 / 4.3

    When I got back my wife wanted to go to a local clothes shop now it's open, 63°F:
    44.9 / 2.2
    41.4 / 2.1

    Sunday morning went for a bike ride for a couple of hours down the canal path as the windy weather wasn't good for the road bike.

    Sunday afternoon went 3UP to Hardwick Hall for a walk round the gardens and grounds, 62°F, extremely windy going - really dragged my numbers down:
    44.7 / 21.9
    56.0 / 22.5 - bit better coming back


    This morning, non-motorway route to get some cheap gas, raining, 51°F, cross/headwind SW15:
    50.7 / 14.3

    Tank Stats

    Miles on tank: 662.5
    GallsUS: 12.60
    Calc. MPG : 52.56mpg - best ever in this car :D
    Calc. Range: 51.4 miles (allowing for extra in tank)
    FCD Range: 20
    FCD MPG : 52.9 MPG (0.59% over-report) - much lower than normal - I thought I'd squeezed extra in on last tank
    UG MPG : 51.9 MPG (1.18% under-report) - I adjusted calibration slightly - now 0.730 from 0.724
    No. of trips: 47
    Average trip length: 14.1
    Average speed 33mph
    Driving time on tank: 20hrs 07mins
    Days since last fill: 43
    Commuting: 80%
    Ave. Temperature: 60.6°F
    Ave. no. of people in car: 1.1
    Pmpg for the tank: 60.29

    I'll nudge the FCD over-report for tank 66 back to 5.3% and adjust the indicated numbers down by that going forward.

    Gas station to work, 51°F:
    56.9 / 5.6


    New tank Range 645 . Fuel gauge F««««|««««E . UG at 66.4 / DTE 742
     
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  17. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Going home in the Honda ( Scenic Route #2 ) was frustrating. Every single traffic signal ( okay ,
    only 85% of them ) is longgggg. I shut off the engine more times than I want to admit. I really think
    that I will take the scenic route ( non-highway ) in this car ONLY when I most likely will not have to
    stop , or stop for long. Like this morning , coming from Woodridge.
    Instead I will take the tollways home. Either way , it's about 50-51 MPG for the trip , but considerably
    faster and less stress on car and driver.

    I am SO spoiled by my hybrid car.
     
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  18. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I never was rich enough for a hybrid. Ever since I switched the 2008 Hyundai Accent to large diameter (& wider) tires, I’ve enjoyed the Accent more & more, even past 160,000 miles. Yeah, I don’t like stoplights, just like you. But the “new” replacement clutch makes take offs, at least.... better than original, & in reality a pleasure.
     
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  19. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 72 deg F in Naperville.
    35.1 miles , fcd = 69.2 x .943 = 65.3 MPG.
    Tank is at 379.5 miles , fcd = 73.0 x .943 = 68.8 MPG.
     
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  20. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    When I found myself driving 420 miles a week , just for work , that helped to
    justify the ( small ) additional upfront cost of the hybrid.
    I do like the response and power in my manual car , but I STILL want the engine to
    shut off by itself. How can I have my cake and eat it , too ?
     
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