Month of May 2020 (Nat’l Avg $cheap)

Discussion in 'The Daily Grind' started by EdwinTheMagnificent, May 1, 2020.

  1. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today 61 deg F in Naperville , 60 in Elk Grove.
    Wind S 7 , rain all the way.
    35.1 miles , fcd = 65.8 x .943 = 62.0 MPG.
    Tank is at 613.0 miles , fcd = 68.8 x .943 = 64.9 MPG.
    Last pip started flashing at 606 miles. They want me to
    believe I have 22 miles remaining. My Amoco in Naperville
    is about 26 miles. So , no problem.
     
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  2. visionseeming

    visionseeming Well-Known Member

    Yup, it seems invariably that the few cars offered with manual transmission are considered the "sport" version rather than the "fuel efficient" version. I guess it makes sense since there are so few manual transmission drivers (and usually the racing types) out there and automatic is pretty much considered the standard since the later 90s. For good highway cruising ratios, I've pretty much only seen them on CVTs nowadays. I recall I had driven my sister's '14 Chevy Spark a couple years ago, if I was gentle I could coax the CVT into it's lowest ratio where 60 mph was a bit under 2000 rpm (probably close to 1900). This is with a 1.2L 4-cylinder engine with a peak horsepower of 84 and a pretty sizable curb weight of 2,368 lbs. I think I got north of 60 MPG on that trip based on the built in FCD, didn't measure actual but probably in the mid-50s. Pretty good for a car with an modern highway EPA rating of 37 MPG.
     
  3. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    Also, deliberately handicapping efficiency of the manual version allows salesmen to point out the better EPA numbers on the more profitable automatic version to customers who care about efficiency.
     
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  4. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    And more profit for the manufacturer who has "steered" people to the
    ( usually more expensive ) automatic.
     
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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I just read what you wrote.
    After I restated it.
     
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  6. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 51 deg F in Naperville , 49 in Elk Grove.
    Wind NE 9 . Ugh.
    35.1 miles , fcd = 62.1 x .943 = 58.5 MPG.
    Tank is at 41.4 miles , fcd = 64.2 x .943 = 60.5 MPG.

    Filled up on the way home Friday at the usual place.
    641.2 , fcd =69.2 x .943 = 65.3 MPG.
    641.2/9.810 gal = 65.4 MPG.
    87 E10 = $1.999 at Amoco.
     
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  7. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thursday night, motorway route, another great run including a detour and 10 minute stop at the vets for some meds for the dog, 60°F, cross/tailwind NNW8:
    51.8 / 23.6

    Cycled to work Friday morning, 41°F, mostly headwind WNW6:
    No fuel / 21.3 / avg 17.0mph


    Tank steady at 49.3 (FCD 52.0) / 605.1 / Range 45 . Guess gauge F____|___«E . UG steady at 53.1 / DTE 112

    Low fuel light @ 584 miles
     
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  8. litesong

    litesong litesong

    We have 2013 automatic AND 2016 manual Hyundai Elantras. Both are rated at 38MPG, but the manual is geared 6% lower than the auto. The manual is sweet on hills & the mountains. I will put greater diameter tires on the manual. Even with larger diameter tires, the manual will still out perform the auto.
     
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  9. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    Because it's generally possible to beat EPA numbers by a wider margin with manuals.
     
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  10. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Yeah, drivers look ahead and adjust their manual trannies for the coming conditions. If a manual driver wants to, they can do far less shifting than an auto tranny. Slowing down, a manual driver can use neutral and coast down. Auto drivers normally let their auto tranny shift thru every unnecessary gear, down to zero MPH.
     
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  11. litesong

    litesong litesong

    :cool::cool:
    I need one set of perfect ratios for stop&go traffic, a second set of perfect ratios for flat roads & a third set of perfect ratios for mountain driving. Then I would be perfect...:cool::cool::cool:..... & cool!!!
     
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  12. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 56 deg F in Naperville , 57 in Elk Grove.
    Wind SSW 2 ( changing to NW 1 in Elk Grove )
    35.1 miles , fcd = 66.1 x .943 = 62.3 MPG.
    Tank is at 151.5 miles , fcd = 68.9 x .943 = 65.0 MPG.
    Missed the rain yesterday. Not to worry though , there will
    be more today , I'm sure.
     
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  13. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    I’m not a normal Auto driver ;)

    Cycling home Friday lunchtime, 54°F, mainly tailwind W9:
    No fuel / 19.7 / avg 19.7mph - I actually managed to break my target of an hour doing the commute in 59' 53"

    Sunday morning went 3UP to my eldest daughter's to see her in person for a socially distanced dog walk, 63°F:
    55.8 (indicated 58.7) / 4.4

    Called in at her local gas station on the way back to fill up:
    55.1 (indicated 57.9) / 5.4

    Tank Stats

    Miles on tank: 624.7
    GallsUS: 13.22 (tank is supposed to be 13.21 galls)
    Calc. MPG : 47.26mpg
    Calc. Range: 87.7 miles (allowing for extra in tank)
    FCD Range: 25
    FCD MPG : 52.0 MPG (9.95% over-report) - much higher than normal - different petrol station, maybe squeezed extra in?
    UG MPG : 52.7 MPG (11.6% under-report)
    No. of trips: 31
    Average trip length: 20.2
    Average speed 33mph
    Driving time on tank: 18hrs 56mins
    Days since last fill: 49
    Commuting: 96.6%
    Ave. Temperature: 51°F
    Ave. no. of people in car: 1.1
    Pmpg for the tank: 53.0

    I'll nudge the FCD over-report for tank 65 up to 5.4% and adjust the indicated numbers down by that going forward.

    Gas station to home - uphill then mainly 2-lane, 59°F:
    54.6 / 16.9

    To work this morning, motorway route, 51°F, cross/headwind NNW4:
    52.9 / 21.5 - traffic light section was kind to me!


    New tank at 53.2 (FCD 56.1) / 38.4 / Range 625 . Guess gauge F««««|««««E . UG at 51.4 / DTE 655
     
  14. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Clearly! :)

    Congrats!!

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  15. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 53 deg F in Naperville , 51 in Elk Grove.
    Wind N 12 ( ouch) , light rain all the way in.
    At least I was able to mow my lawn yesterday , though
    it was a bit soggy in some spots.
    35.1 miles , fcd =60.9 x .943 = 57.4 MPG.
    But the 80(fcd) trip home last night helped the tank :
    220.2 miles , fcd = 69.0 x .943 = 65.0 MPG.
     
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  16. Step daughter moved back to her dad's full time. Wife told her she couldn't take the car we bought. So I drove it to work the last 2 days. 2008 sonata limited, 3.3 v6, rated 19/28. Approximately 150 miles with some errands Sunday and 2 trips to work with rain both Monday and Tuesday. Dash shows 29.3 mpg.
     
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  17. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 56 deg F in Naperville , 52 in Elk Grove.
    Wind E 6-9 MPH.
    35.1 miles , fcd = 63.5 x .943 = 59.9 MPG.
    Tank is at 297.3 miles , fcd = 68.6 x .943 = 64.7 MPG.
     
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  18. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 57 deg F in Naperville , 55 in Elk Grove.
    Wind from the east at 6 MPH.
    35.1 miles , fcd = 65.2 x .943 = 61.5 MPG.
    Tank is at 364.1 miles , fcd = 69.0 x .943 = 65.1 MPG
     
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  19. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks Bill :)

    Monday night, motorway route, 64°F, tailwind W10:
    52.6 / 21.4

    Cycled to work Tuesday and Wednesday:
    No fuel / 21.5 / avg 17.1mph - to work
    No fuel / 19.7 / avg 19.5mph - back home
    No fuel / 20.6 / avg 17.5mph - to work
    No fuel / 19.7 / avg 17.0mph - back home

    This morning, motorway route, mild 58°F, partial headwind WSW4:
    52.8 / 21.6

    Tank down 0.6 at 52.6 (FCD 55.5) / 81.4 / Range 630 . Guess gauge F««««|««««E . UG up 1.7 at 53.1 / DTE 636

    On vacation for 2 weeks after today :D:cool:
     
  20. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 57 deg F in Naperville , wind ESE 2.
    55 in Elk Grove , wind N 1.
    It definitely FELT like a tail wind.
    35.1 miles, fcd = 68.2 x .943 = 64.3 MPG.
    Tank is at 430.9 miles , fcd = 69.5 x .943 = 65.5 MPG.
     
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