2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid Pricing and EPA, Just $1,225 More Than the Non-Hybrid!

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] This CR-V is going to be great!

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – Feb. 27, 2020

    2020 Honda CR-V

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    The Non-Hybrid Honda CR-V in Aegean Blue - (cool looking slate grey) is what is in the drive this week.​

    Following on to the late October release of Honda's 2020 CR-V Goes Hybrid!, Honda's latest Hybrid will arrive using the Accord Hybrids two-motor hybrid technology under the hood but follows the RAV4 Hybrids footsteps with standard Real Time AWD.

    Like all Honda’s, the CR-V Hybrid includes the full 360-degree Honda Sensing suite of safety and driver assist technologies, automatic climate control, and automatic high beams. The CR-V Hybrid also includes LED headlamps, Smart Entry and Pushbutton Start, and a cargo cover, standard.

    The 2020 CR-V Hybrid includes unique front and rear styling cues that include Hybrid badging on the grille, front fenders, and tailgate; hybrid-exclusive 5-lamp LED fog lamps; and a unique rear bumper design. Like the rest of the 2020 CR-V lineup, the 2020 CR-V Hybrid benefits from new headlight designs, new alloy wheel designs for EX and EX-L trims, and new 19” wheels on Touring trims.

    2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid

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    Inside, the CR-V Hybrid offers the same modern cabin as the non-hybrid, including its full-flat folding and 60/40-split second-row seat. Unique to CR-V Hybrid vs its non-hybrid counterpart are three buttons to the right of the push-button gear selector that let the driver select between Sport, EV and ECON. CR-V Hybrid’s digital gauge cluster also includes a digital power-flow meter.

    2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid Pricing & EPA

    Trim -- MSRP Including $1,120 D&H -- EPA Mileage Rating (City/Hwy/Combined)
    • LX: $28,870 -- 40/35/38
    • EX: $31,380 -- 40/35/38
    • EX-L: $33,870 -- 40/35/38
    • Touring: $37,070 -- 40/35/38
    2020 Honda CR-V Non-Hybrid Pricing & EPA

    Trim -- MSRP Including $1,120 D&H -- EPA Mileage Rating (City/Hwy/Combined)
    • LX (AWD) -- $27,645 -- 27/32/29
    • EX (AWD) -- $30,155 -- 27/32/29
    • EX-L (AWD) -- $32,645 -- 27/32/29
    • Touring (AWD) -- $35,845 -- 27/32/29
    Comparing to the 2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid vs the less powerful (190 hp) AWD Honda CR-V with the 1.5L and CVT shows the hybrid upcharge is just $1,225 from the LX through Touring Trims. Considering the EPA combined of 38 vs 29 mpg, at $2.50 per gallon, it only takes 60,050 miles to pay for the hybrid upcharge with gasoline averaging $2.50 per gallon! Why would you not consider the much more efficient and powerful Hybrid instead?

    2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid Interior

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    2020 Honda CR-V AWD Drivetrain

    The two-motor hybrid system under the hood of the 2020 CR-V Hybrid is similar to the one used in the 2020 Honda Accord Hybrid that we were in just two weeks ago with additional advancements to the hybrid battery’s operating range, enabling more time in EV mode than previous Honda hybrids. Operating without the need for a conventional AT, the two-motor hybrid-electric powertrain combines the 40+ percent thermodynamically Atkinsonized 2.0L I4 with a system output that matches the Accord Hybrid we were in two weeks ago at 212 hp.

    The two-motor hybrid system does not use magnets with heavy rare-earth metals, reducing magnet cost and weight.

    Like the AWD system used in the non-hybrid, the 2020 CR-V Hybrid’s Real Time AWD uses special software to determine traction conditions and when torque is best sent to the rear wheels in low traction conditions, when AWD is most useful. When the system isn’t needed, an electronically controlled clutch deactivates power delivery to the rear wheels to improve fuel efficiency.

    2020 Honda CR-V Safety

    The CR-V Hybrid includes Collision Mitigation Braking System with Forward Collision Warning (FCW) and pedestrian sensing capability, Road Departure Mitigation (RDM) with Lane Departure Warning (LDW), Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) with low-speed follow and Lane Keeping Assist (LKAS) standard. Additional driver-assistive technologies include the available blind spot information, Rear Cross Traffic Monitor and Auto High Beam headlamps.

    The 2020 CR-V Hybrid also incorporates the latest generation of Honda’s ACE body structure.

    The new 2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid for the U.S. market is being built at Honda Manufacturing of Indiana. This is Honda's third U.S.-made hybrid which encompass the Insight, also made in Indiana, and Accord, from the Marysville, OH Auto Plant.

    Honda's Ohio transmission plant will supply the two-motor unit for the CR-V Hybrid and the Anna Engine Plant will make its 2.0L engine.

    2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid Cargo Volume

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    It is big back there!​

    2020 Honda CR-V Early Conclusions

    Having placed almost 100-miles on the 27/32/29 mpg rated 2020 Honda CR-V Touring trim this week so far, if the 40/35/38 rated CR-V Hybrid is that much more efficient, look out as the 41/38/40 mpg rated RAV4 Hybrid finally has a true competitor in the CUV wars.

    2020 Honda CR-V (non-Hybrid) First Drive Results

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    Although the CR-V is going to provide lower efficiency on average than the RAV4 hybrid, the infotainment is better, the cabin layout is better and larger, and all but the RCC is better too. Marian will spend a few hours behind the wheel of this one before she moves to her next vehicle as her options just increased by one. The All-new 2021 Hyundai Tucson HEV/PHEV are just around the corner too.
     
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  2. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    "When the system isn’t needed, an electronically controlled clutch deactivates power delivery to the rear wheels to improve fuel efficiency."

    I take it the AWD system is a mechanical one then, not electric like the Rav4.
     
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  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Trollbait:

    I should have went to the LA Auto Show where it debuted as a static prototype and looked underneath to see if there was a prop shaft. I assume it has a prop shaft and the clutched disconnect occurs within the differential out back but that is an assumption by me.

    2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid

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    Another hero shot. ;)

    Wayne
     
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Someone asked on Facebook if the Hybrid lost any cargo volume. The specs are not out yet but here is the comparison in pictures.

    2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid (left) vs non-Hybrid (right) Cargo Volume Comparison

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    Wayne
     
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  5. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    Looks like smaller side cubbies. Maybe it loses the spare tire.
     
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  6. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Big jump in city EPA mileage for the hybrid vs non-hybrid; highway EPA--not so much. So whether the hybrid will pay off depends on your driving environment. The hybrid weighs 194lbs more than the AWD non-hybrid. I don't see separate specs on Honda's website for cargo capacity of non-hybrid vs hybrid so I'm unsure if there's a cargo penalty for the hybrid. The non-hybrid is tow rated at 1500 lbs. There's no tow rating for the hybrid. Is towing forbidden? We have to speculate.

    Yeah, I think it does. Honda says the non-hybrid has a compact spare tire. The hybrid gets a tire repair kit with 24hr assistance.
     
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  7. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

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  8. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    from https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-a...38f03e0055f5-2020-honda-cr-v-hybrid-press-kit

    "Unlike most hybrids, which use electrification primarily to supplement the gasoline engine’s output (parallel hybrid system), Honda’s two-motor hybrid system can operate as either a series or parallel hybrid. The majority of the time, the CR-V Hybrid operates as a series hybrid, its 181-horsepower propulsion motor driving the wheels directly while the gasoline engine (connected to the electric generator/starter motor) functions as an on-board electrical generator, supplying power to the hybrid battery and/or the propulsion motor. Under certain driving conditions, such as steady-state cruising at highway speeds, the system can switch seamlessly to parallel hybrid operation, the gasoline engine to the front axle via a clutch, and vehicle speed is proportional to engine speed (rpm)."

    I think depending on how good the cruise control is and the terrain, the engine may be directly driving the wheels for a lot of that 75 mph drive, thereby having less opportunity for the engine to be off as terrain and conditions permit. I think the engine off time (built in pulse and glide) is what helps a lot of hybrids get better highway mileage. The engine would certainly turn off more during city driving or driving on the highway the way many of us do.

    Lesson: Don't drive with the cruise control set to 75 mph.
     
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  9. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    What is cruise control ?
     
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  10. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    At the power level necessary to sustain 75 mph on a level course, it may well be most efficient to have the engine constantly running and driving the wheels through a purely mechanical path. Unclear whether the mechanical ratio is fixed or variable. If fixed, it would have to revert series mode for steep uphills, losing efficiency.
     
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