Hot Deal – New 2020 Toyota Prius Prime LE for $16,529 + TTL

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Insurance was the last item and that was completed today with a post date of March 4, 2020 and a premium of $1,064.48/year for $500k/$250k Liability, $100k Property, $1k deductible, and glass coverage. The Insurance card is in my hand so tomorrow it is off to Boston and Wednesday the pickup and return.

    I finally received a reply back from the MA "RMV" about how to buy a car in MA and drive it back to CA.
    CA does not register the car until it is inspected in CA, thus the temp permit.

    Wayne
     
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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The purchase was completed without a hitch.

    2020 Toyota Prius Prime LE

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    I picked it up with 28-miles on the clock and it is currently parked and plugged into a Level1 in my parents garage in IL.

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    1,150-miles indicated - 1,152 miles actual.​

    I charged at a Nissan dealership down the street from the pickup for a partial 12.2-miles indicated (21-miles actual) and one full charge from a Nissan Dealership near Sharon, PA overnight for 21.7-miles indicated in 25 degree temps (31-miles actual).

    Wayne
     
  3. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Hi Wayne. Congrats and I hope you enjoyed the trip so far.
     
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  4. priusCpilot

    priusCpilot George

    Hi Wayne,

    As I recall to not pay CA tax for an out of state car, you have to have 7500miles or more on the car and have paid tax out of state to not be double taxed.

    Curious as to way you replaced the your 2017 car? Was it, just to good of a deal to pass on, for a new car or was something wrong with it?
     
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi George:

    I made sure I was not paying tax in Massachusetts. CA DMV said even if I did, they deduct what I paid to another state and would only be charged for the extra over to match CA state tax due over what was paid elsewhere. The dealership did not charge MA tax so I am good although paying CA state tax of 7.5 percent on $25,786 is no fun either. :(

    I sold my 18 Elantra over 6-months ago.

    Wayne
     
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  6. priusCpilot

    priusCpilot George

    Oh I thought you had a 2018 Prius Prime I saw the kbb trade in value at 158,000 miles you showed.
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi George:

    I use 156k miles for a TCO on all the review vehicles. :)

    Wayne
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I arrived back home early this morning and by this afternoon, TTL and registration was paid for. $2,379 later plus a $42 SMOG check and I am good to go.

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    All-in, $16,529 for the vehicle after the Fed $4,502 TC and CA $1k tax rebate. The One Trip Permit ($22), Prius Prime Carpeted floor mats ($70), 3 ft. Micro-USB cable ($6) and an iOttie pad ($5) brings the total to...

    2020 Toyota Prius Prime: $16,529
    TTL and Registration: $2,379
    SMOG Check: $41
    Misc.: $103

    $19,052 OTD.

    Wayne
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    While the rebate(s) have not increased, the $3,500 Toyota rebate has appeared in not just MA but is now available in ME, NY, NJ, CT, and RI. Remember the DOC fees in RI when I purchased a Prius Prime back in 2018 was just $220 saving another $275 if you can find one with the same level ($3,300) of MSRP dealer discount.

    Wayne
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A ton to update incl. an LMPG of 79.5 mpg after four full tanks crossing the country and four full tanks in CA with free opportunity charging of ~ 1.1 full charges per tank.

    The Clean Vehicle Rebate application has been sent in for the $1,000 CA State tax rebate as has the HOV Lane Sticker(s). 60-days tops and I should have the stickers and rebate.

    I also purchased a 1 to 2 12V splitter from Harbor Freight for $4.99 + tax so I can plug in both the Garmin and a whole host of 12V to USB outlets.

    Wayne
     
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  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Not too shabby , Wayne. :)
     
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  12. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Making good use of the plug-in, Wayne! I wouldn't have expected any less from you. :)
     
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Bill:

    Unfortunately, the charging rate of 3.3 kW or 2 hours and 10-minutes from flat to full is to slow to use it extensively. :( Even if it were capable of a 7.2 kW charge, opportunity charging takes a long time and at most, a grocery store visit is about an hour and I can only receive about 12-miles of indicated range, ~ 20-miles actual, from it.

    In the case of my Prius Prime, I have results for the aFCD accuracy since I have not charged over the last 3 tanks. Here is the latest example as a 12k mile update… One blown tire with a garbage replacement that cost me $97. I received my HOV lane stickers 2-days ago so I am ready! All the while there is still only light traffic on the highways with HOV lanes here in CA currently. ;)

    My last three tanks have been without any plug-in – electricity costs far too much here in Southern CA at $0.33/kWh before the 375 kWh home use threshold and $0.505/kWh to plug-in off the grid.

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    aFCD at 74.5 mpg over 810.3 miles indicated -- 70.2 mpg over 809.9 miles actual.​

    A 5.8 percent over report has been the average over the three top off to top off tanks without any charging.

    New items? The glass thickness is so uniform across all windows on the Prius Prime that there is little to know distortion no matter the angle. It is better than that of any vehicle I have ever driven. That includes high end Audi’s, Porsche’s, older Lexus’, and Jaguars.

    I hear a lot of good about rear seat comfort and it is far more comfortable than my Elantra from days gone by.

    I am still pissed about the lack of driver seat bottom length and the infotainment disaster which I work around with “Hey Google” on the phone itself. I wish I had room for a spare tire somewhere. It needs one given the flat tire and failure of the inflator kit earlier this month. BSM and RCTA are so missed as is dynamic rear view camera guidelines and no individual tire pressure readout. I miss those from my 18 Elantra. :(

    Wayne
     
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  14. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    My assessment as well on road trips. Charging off excess solar is probably the only practical way to charge at home. If a region has sufficient renewables and low enough costs, that would be good as well. My own situation isn't that great with an approximate $0.26 per kilowatt-hour charge on the grid. When I'm transitioning from negative to positive net metering in the spring, I had a very surprising $0.80 per kiloWatt-hour charge for the few kWh I received from the grid. Not a big deal in the grand scheme as it is still beneficial to have net metering.
     
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  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

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    I took this pic on my way back to California in Gallup, NM, one of the new COVID-19 hot spots in the country right now. This town is heading backwards in one hell of a hurry and this is not going to help. :(

    Wayne
     
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  16. phlack

    phlack Well-Known Member

    Just logged in after a while of not being on here.
    I got myself a 2020 Prius Prime last month. Blue Magnetism. Same car as yours!

    And I'm loving it! I work very close to home, so I haven't had to fill the gas tank yet.

    Looking forward to seeing posts from you on how to hypermile this thing!
     
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  17. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Great choice, phlack, and welcome back! :D Congrats!
     
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  18. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Phlack:

    Congrats on your purchase and a great choice too!

    A 39,565 mile update...

    2020 Toyota Prius Prime LE

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    lmpg = 79.7 mpg indicated, 75.636 mpg actual.​

    Every tank sees the lmpg climb by .1 mpg so I expect to see the lmpg at 80.0 mpg within 2-weeks. I have not charged it since the last update so all in, about 10-full charges over its life and nothing in the last 4-months.

    Earnings over those 39,565 miles incl. the 3,500 to drive between Boston and San Diego with a few days in IL. Working miles = 36,065 while gross working earnings = $35,252.17 between March 4th and Aug 5, 2020 so just a touch under $1.00 per mile all-in.

    Expenses now include (2) flat tire repairs at $201 plus a $130 tow that I will be reimbursed $100 for. All in, $231. I purchased a mini-spare for the 18 Elantra LE Eco and after 156k miles, I never had to use it. I do not have room for a mini-spare in the Prime and in less than 40k miles, I have needed it twice. :(

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    Every now and then, a little rain will fall. Damned flat tire and no mini-spare!!!​

    Fuel costs include 425-miles of free opportunity charging, the first tank was a free dealer fill, and 38,540 miles on 509.8 gallons at an avg. cost of $2.432 per gallon = $1,239.83.

    Maintenance costs to date? The fist 25k miles were on Toyota so $48 for (2) 5 qt, jugs of Mobil1 0W-16 (I still have 5.5 qts. left to go), $38 for (10) Toyota Genuine Oil Filters (I still have 9 left), and one labor charge for $23 incl tip so far. $109.00 all in.

    Insurance: $1,023/year for $0 deductible liability incl. towing

    And what do those working miles entail? People, medical product, home repair, Landscaping, and general supplies.

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    She is earning her keep and doing quite well on the balance sheet with $35,252 gross earnings and $2,603 in M&R, Fuel, and Insurance. I am still positive on the depreciation given the $20,100 Out the door price incl. TTL and Reg but she will go negative on that attribute in about 35k more miles.

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    The glass is absolutely pristine and I mean I have never seen more uniform glass on any vehicle in my life. The Seating ergo is still barely acceptable but the drivetrain is an absolute joy. It does exactly what it is supposed to on every downhill with an ICE shutdown, every ascent just below PWR can be made up with the fee glide or regen on the way down the other side, and I run A/C albeit in San Diego, it is only absolutely necessary with people onboard or when traveling from 5-miles off the coast or further inland. Maybe 90 percent of the time it is running and the std. heat pump has paid for itself multiple times over.

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    I was thinking about this the other day. Compared to my 2000 Honda Insight with an lmpg of 92.8 mpg after 36k miles, If I had to climb and descend the same terrain, carry as much product and persons, all the while running A/C, I doubt I would have hit 75 lmpg. The 2020 Prius Prime will reach 75 lmpg when not incl. the 10 charges before another 10k miles is up. All the while a much larger, more comfortable, and more reliable vehicle with working utility to spare.

    Wayne
     
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  19. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Too bad the Yota dealers around me don't have any. It's pretty much my first choice.
    But I already have two cars. If I bought a Prime I would trade both the Prius and the Civic in.
     
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  20. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    My wife's Prius Prime only has 36667 miles on it as of yesterday morning when I took the car to a local tire shop for 4 tires. Fresh tires were not really due yet from tread depth, but close enough and a triple puncture by nails on Sunday made me think it is wiser to just take the hit now rather than do two now (to keep the same tire size on the same 'axle', and 2 more whenever I feel unsafe with the remaining tread depth and likely some winter driving. I didn't go for LRR tires, though, just excellent dry and wet road tires. They're not supposed to be that great in snow, but I do have another set of dedicated winter tires. The new ones are Yokohama Ascend GT in case anyone's curious. List $107 and purchased for $83 each. With tax, disposal fee and valve stems/mounting/balancing/tpms refresh and 4-way alignment, it was $515 and change.
     
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