2019 LA Auto Show Preview - Audi e-tron Sportback/Wagon Reveal

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] A great looking all-electric!

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – November 18, 2019

    2020 Audi RS7 Sportback

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    A monster A7! Not the BEV however.​

    Los Angeles, California – One of the most beautiful cars to own and drive from the Brand of Four Rings was called the A7. As many here know, the full-sized hatch with the 3.0L V6 TDI, it provided 1,000+ miles of range from a single tank yet was maligned in the DieselGate controversy. Ok, so what happens if you build an all-new “all-electric” with the A7s beautiful design? You would not since this is the powerful but conventionally powered 600 hp V8 bi-turbo RS7 ;)

    At this year’s LA Auto Show, Audi will be introducing its latest e-tron with a global debut of Audi e-tron Sportback from Audi of America.

    The all-new Audi e-tron Sportback, the first electric 4-door Sport Coupe like wagon - read 5-door hatch - from Audi, merges exquisite exterior design with an all-electric drive and five-passenger interior.

    Audi RS6 Avant Wagon

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    e-tron Sportback

    The Audi e-tron Sportback, the second model in the Audi electric portfolio, combines the brand’s electric drive with thrilling design that are distinctly Audi. The second fully electric model to bear the “e-tron” badge conveys curb appeal from a distance with a calming experience for drivers within. Like all Audi’s expect it to provide impressive driving dynamics with standard electric quattro AWD to help provide exceptional control.

    Taking a swipe at Tesla, Audi stated that its second fully electric model “provides the fit and finish that luxury buyers expect”. Inside, the e-tron Sportback includes smartphone-like MMI touch response paired with built-in Amazon Alexa integration and distinct e-tron family characteristics.

    The big question continues… Will the second e-tron finally supply a competitive range and outright performance of the all-electric leader Tesla? That will be key in the future success or failure of this beautiful Audi e-tron.

    LA Auto Show attendees will have the opportunity to test drive the fully electric Audi e-tron SUV on the road through the duration of the show. Audi will host customer ride and drives from Nov. 22 to Dec. 1 from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. daily, and 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Nov. 28. The drive experience will take place on West Pico Boulevard adjacent to the venue.

    Audi e-tron Sportback

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    #LAAS2019 #Audi #etron #Sportback
     
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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    An AWD Audi A7 TDI we were driving back in 2015...

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    Wayne
     
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  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    We will never see the e-tron Sportback Wagon sold here.
     
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  4. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    The e-tron currently available is a wagon, and wasn't the previous e-tron PHEV a sportback?
     
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Edwin and Trollbait:

    I wish Audi and VW would not play games with this but it is what it is. An SUV is a lifted sedan with a hatch attached. A liftback can be an A7 like sedan platform with a hatch, a wagon, or an SUV. A wagon is an extended out sedan.

    My opinion worth < $0.01 anyway?

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    Wayne
     
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    [​IMG] With a tagline “The future is electric”, Audi introduced its second e-tron model. The Audi e-tron Sportback is a SUV coupé offering 402 hp and a range of up to 230-miles of all-electric range from a single charge.

    The Audi e-tron Sportback can be ordered in Europe before the month is up with scheduled arrival in the spring of 2020.

    2021 Audi e-tron Sportback

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    Like all Audi’s, its face is unique with digital matrix LED headlamps, four horizontally segmented DRLs, large open grille including the large brand of four rings moniker attached front and center. The digital matrix LED headlights include DMDs (digital micromirror device) like those used in many video projectors. A small chip containing one million micromirrors, each of whose edge length measures just a few hundredths of a millimeter can be tilted up to 5,000 times per second. Depending on the setting, the LED light is either directed via the lenses onto the road or is absorbed in order to mask out areas of the light beam.

    The e-tron Sportback is 16.1 ft long, 6.3 ft wide and 5.3 ft high.

    A total of thirteen paint finishes are available for the all-electric SUV. The logo on the electric charging flap features the orange high-voltage signal. The wheel arch trims and sills are finished in matt anthracite as standard to underscore its off-road look.

    The S line is equipped with standard 20” wheels and sport air suspension. An S line emblem adorns the radiator grille, while the illuminated aluminum door sill trims feature an S logo. At the rear, the spoiler extends across the entire vehicle width. In contrast to the basic model, the S line exterior appointments are painted in the exterior body color – including the wheel arch trims, door sills, bumpers and exterior mirrors. The exterior mirror housings are also available in black as an option.

    The Audi e-tron Sportback with the S line exterior and virtual exterior mirrors achieve an outstanding drag coefficient value of just 0.25. This is primarily due to the coupé body shape and the associated lower aerodynamic drag behind the car. The high separating edge of the Sportback minimizes swirl in the air flow in this area. The optional virtual exterior mirrors, whose wing-shaped supports integrate small cameras display video on high-contrast OLED displays in the transition between the instrument panel and the doors. This is not legal in the U.S. today and do not expect to see it anytime soon. The aero wheels and the fully lined underbody including the aluminum plate to protect the high-voltage battery also help reduce the Cd.

    The Audi e-tron Sportbacks digital light can generate dynamic leaving- and coming-home animations on a wall or the ground. Not only does the digital light system deliver cornering, city, and highway lighting as versions of the low-beam light with exceptional precision, it also supplements the high-beam light by masking out other road users with great accuracy. The light orientation darkens areas masked out from the light beam to predictively show the vehicle’s position in the lane. The marker lights are used in conjunction with the optional night vision assist. The light automatically draws attention to any pedestrians it detects, thereby reducing the danger of overlooking pedestrians in the immediate vicinity of the lane.

    2021 Audi e-tron Sportback Drivetrain

    The 36 module 95 kWh battery offers 86.5 kWh usable and operates at a rated voltage of 396 volts. It is fitted beneath the passenger cell, within a solid protective frame.

    Regenerative braking captures over 90 percent of the kinetic energy up to 0.3 g. Similarly, a Glide mode has been built in providing the real efficiency.

    During normal operation, the front electric motor is almost completely decoupled increasing range.

    The thermal management system uses four separate circuits that regulates the temperature of the high-voltage components. A standard heat pump harnesses waste heat from the high-voltage battery and can use up to 3 kW of actual power losses for cabin heating and A/C.

    Charging the e-tron Sportback 55 quattro from flat to 80 percent on a 150 kW DC CCS can occur in less than 30-minutes. The e-tron Sportback 50 quattro can charge at up to 120 kW and charges from the same flat to 80 percent in the same time.

    The standard 230V Level2 home charger can reach up to 11 kW in Europe.

    2021 Audi e-tron Sportback Chassis

    The Audi e-tron Sportback 55 quattro finds each axle fitted with an asynchronous electric motor. It reaches 60 in just under 6.5 seconds with a top electronically limited speed of 124.3 mph. In S mode, that time drops to just over 5.5 seconds. A. Two-stage planetary with one gear range transfer the torque from the electric motors to the axles.

    Electric AWD ensures outstanding traction and dynamism on any terrain and helps the car from understeer or oversteer in wet or dry conditions.


    The dynamic adaptive air suspension with controlled dampers allows the driver to switch to multiple drive components between smooth rolling comfort and sporty stability. At higher speeds, the body is lowered to improve aero. The system is capable of varying the ride height by up to 3.0 in.

    2021 Audi e-tron Sportback Interior

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    The car offers a total of 21.7/58.4 cu ft of luggage capacity with the rear seats up/seats down.

    The interior includes a generous arc that spans the instrument panel. The wrap-around in the door virtual exterior mirrors are optional.

    The Audi e-tron Sportback features front seats with standard design, sport seats, S sport seats, and the customized contour seats, with optional ventilated and massage functions.

    When the Audi e-tron Sportback includes sophisticated soundproofing that moves the optional Bang & Olufsen 3D Sound System to a new level.

    The e-tron Sportback features the MMI touch response operating system with two displays. A tactile and acoustic pulse confirms when a finger activates a function. On the upper 12.1” touch screen, the driver controls the infotainment and dedicated e-tron settings. The lower 8.6” display is used to input text and to operate the convenience functions and climate control.

    Standard equipment on the Audi e-tron Sportback is the 12.3” Audi virtual cockpit. Its display excels with an extremely high resolution of 1,920 x 720 pixels and can be switched between two views.

    In addition to operation by the two touch displays, the driver can activate a host of functions using natural voice control.

    Like past Audi NAVIs, the e-tron Sportback uses Google Earth, the e-tron route planner, the hybrid radio, and Car-to-X services. The most recent of these are the on-street parking service, which helps find parking spaces on the roadside, and traffic light information.

    I love the cool displays but Google Maps via voice is more accurate. Unless Audi is using Google for their voice control of Google Earth Maps? I am not sure of this yet?

    The myAudi app can connect the car to a smartphone allowing the owner to manage charging and status remotely. An optional deluxe auxiliary A/C system allows the customer to specify whether the interior, the wheel and the seats are to be heated or not.

    2021 Audi e-tron Sportback Safety

    Audi offers an assist “City” package with intersection assist and rear cross traffic assist functions as well as the lane change and exit warnings. Audi pre sense 360°, the combination of Audi pre sense front, rear, and side, is standard. This system detects collision hazards and initiates targeted protective measures—from full braking to tensioning of the seat belts.

    Highlights of the assist package “Tour” are the adaptive cruise assist. In combination with the adaptive cruise assist and traffic sign recognition, the efficiency assistant can brake and accelerate the vehicle predictively. The turn assist, collision avoidance assist, and emergency assist functions round out the Tour package. Audi also offers the park assist, night vision assists, and the 360-degree cameras that allow the driver to select from multiple views.

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    2021 Audi e-tron Sportback Early Conclusion

    It is always a joy to drive a modern and fully equipped Audi. If you have not, do so sometime. I can guarantee it will be worth every minute behind that soft leather wrapped wheel.

    The e-tron Sportbacks straight line performance is very average vs other high-performance gas CUVs available today. Against the top all-electrics, it falls seriously behind. Similarly, the range. ~ 230-miles of range from the long-range model and maybe 210-miles from the standard one. Both EPA. The elephant in the room is that its main all-electric competitor provides well over 300-miles of range on a single charge and can be charged even faster on its own proprietary 250 kW network. The Audi e-tron Sportback is a luxury all-electric that many will enjoy in no uncertain terms. Is it competitive with the number one all-electric manufacturer? Not even close. :(

    Wayne
     
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  7. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    I would have liked to see it in wagon form, like the new RS6. But "SUV coupé" is probably a lot more trendy and desirable.
     
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  8. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Audi is being 'conservative' with their batteries.

    There's more than a little evidence (400 pages and counting) that the #1 electric competitor has been too agressive with their batteries, .. and subsequently had to go back in with software updates -- hamstringing some 3,4,5 year old cars so bad they are no longer road trip usable.

    Pay now or pay later.

    https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/sudden-loss-of-range-with-2019-16-x-software.154976/page-403
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Mike:

    I like the wagon more as well but you know us American's... I suspect the e-tron Sportback is the I.D. 4 Crozz CUV that we will see here next year but with an Audi wrap. I am not to hopeful for its success if it too is running a 230-mile or less all-electric range. :(

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    Wayne
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Carcus:

    Tesla's new Li-Ion cathode formulation is the answer for that and I expect to see it by mid 2020 in the Y. I have no idea what those older Tesla model S/X owners are going to do as they get SW hamstrung but Tesla does have an answer for the next gen offerings?

    Tesla May Soon Have a Battery That Can Last a Million Miles
    Wayne
     
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  11. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    If the 80% charge in 30 minutes holds up, .. 230 miles is ok. Not ideal but it'll work. IF (BIG IF) the batteries can hold up for something like 10/150,000.

    /I think Tesla may have a storm coming over those model S/X batteries (and there's a strong reason why Panasonic jumped ship, as well as Straubel (sort of) ). Time will tell.
     
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  12. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Well, .. I hope so. But there's only so much the high frequency lab tests will reveal. There's no substitute for the real world. There is no substitute for the clock.

    I do expect the batteries will get better and better. But it may take a 'test' of 4,5,6, 7 years on each new iteration to figure out what actually works.

    /if Tesla is that confident. Then Tesla needs to put up a better (and more detailed i.e. some measure of actual capacity) warranty with each new car sold ( and stop altering the BMS software through updates after the sale is made).
     
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  13. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    Looks a lot like the Mercedes GLC/GLE coupé that have been cruising the highways for a while. These always looked odd, especially the sheer size of them. Up close, they look strangely huge to me, and very rounded.

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  14. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    The closer you get , the uglier it becomes.
     
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  15. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    Pennsylvania calls the Tahoe a station wagon. Bet if they charged SUVs the truck rate for registration, they wouldn't need to mess with outrageous fees for plug ins.
    Aren't some of the BMW X's of the same profile?

    Parents had an Accord Crosstour. Only thing I didn't like about it was the huge wheels.
     
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  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Yes, and they are also hideous.
     

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