A Tesla Killer Enters the Fray – It is Called Ford Mustang Mach-E

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  1. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I'll be happy when it looks like a car and isn't called "Mustang".
     
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  2. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I'm a Mustang purist. I've always hated them.
     
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  3. litesong

    litesong litesong

    When we get to the nearest star system to our sun, Alpha Centauri, 4.3 light-years away, it's good to know the planets there, are "almost the same" as Earth.....NOT!
     
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  4. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Yeah , but which vehicle will get to Alpha Centauri first , that Ford abomination or Tesla Model 3 Long Range?
    And how many stops for charging ? Hah !
     
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  5. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Since Alpha Centauri star system is so close, it will only take 83.3 thousand recharges.....then multiply that number by 1000...... & then multiply that number by 1000...... Good thing the Tesla Model 3 motor & battery pack has some of the best resilience, & Elon is really building out the Tesla Superchargers. Elon already launched the space going Tesla, so he's on his way....... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes: Look to the skies!
     
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  6. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    To infinity and beyond !
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I was accused of being paid for writing the title to this story by a former Auto Blog Green Social Media manager on FB just a few minutes ago.

    Screw him! I would rather have a Mustang Mach-E in my garage than a Tesla anything if the specs come close to being real.

    Wayne
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Reservations for the 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E "First Edition" are officially full -- though the Premium Edition and the GT are still available.

    2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E

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    Here are some facts from the first batch of reservations:
    • Carbonized Gray is the most popular choice with 38 percent choosing it, with Grabber Blue Metallic 35 percent and Rapid Red 27 percent
    • More than 80 percent of U.S. customers are reserving Mach-E with an Extended Range Battery <-- As expected. :)
    • About 55 percent are opting for all-wheel drive
    • Almost 30 percent of U.S. customers are choosing the Mach-E GT
    • More than a quarter of all reservations are coming from California <-- Also as expected. :)
    Wayne
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:


    Wayne
     
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  10. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Only if you wounder (wind?) the spring real tight. :confused:
     
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  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Edwin:

    No, it is not but it is a transformative offering from Ford!

    2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E and Hot Wings!

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    Next years fans tailgate in style with the all-electric Mustang Mach-E’s front trunk, a 4.8-cubic-foot plastic space that sits underneath the hood.

    The trunk in the front is about the size of a large cooler, so fans can forget about lugging a heavy cooler to a tailgate. Just fill the front trunk with ice and beverages and cruise right up to your tailgate. When you’re done, open the drain cap at the bottom of the front trunk and let gravity do the rest.

    Feed an entire team by loading the front trunk with hot wings: you can hold more than 1,000 regular sized wings with the extra storage space. And don’t worry about the sauce – you can open the drain cap and hose down the front trunk when you get home.

    In other words, never will this be a thing but like Tesla, the Frunk is a real thing.

    Deliveries of the electric SUV begin in late 2020.

    Wayne
     
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  12. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    When the frunk offers heating to keep my wings warm , I'll buy one.
    Then again , probably not. Way to dominate the shrinking American ( nameplate ) automobile market.
    If I ever feel the need for an SUV or pickup , I'll visit a Ford dealership.
    Jeez.
     
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Ford and Bosch Use Virtual Reality to Train Technicians on Mustang Mach-E

    [​IMG] Quite advanced for an all-new advanced Ford offering if I do say so myself.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – February 14, 2020

    2020 Mustang Mach-E First Drive

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    Our first "ride" in the all-new Mustang Mach-E at the Chicago Auto Show earlier this month.​

    Technicians will be trained how to service and maintain the all-electric Mustang Mach-E without need to access a physical model – thanks to a new virtual reality (VR) training tool from Ford and Bosch.

    A technician will learn how to diagnose and perform service related to the vehicle’s high-voltage system wearing the virtual reality headset. This includes tasks such as removal and installation of the main battery as well as service and maintenance on the battery pack itself.

    Bosch also is developing future extensions where the technicians utilize VR to enter the vehicle and navigate through modules as if they were walking through rooms to learn the system. Navigating between modules enables the technicians to determine the issue to repair the vehicle.

    Dave Johnson, Director of Ford Service Engineering Operations:
    This new virtual reality system can be used as an ongoing training tool, allowing technicians to learn niche skills in the Ford technical training program. Virtual reality training has the potential to attract new hires to the automotive repair world, rightly framing the profession as a high-tech, forward-thinking industry in which technicians can learn more efficiently in a state-of-the-art environment. Additionally, technicians can tap into the system from any location.

    Bosch developed a proof of concept in 2019 for automotive service training via virtual reality, then market tested it with instructors, technicians and college students. Ford Motor Company is the first automaker to pilot the application in its service technician powertrain repair course, specifically with the all-new Mustang Mach-E, the company’s first all-electric SUV. Ford could expand the technology to train on additional vehicles in the future.

    The virtual reality training solution uses an Oculus Quest virtual reality headset from Facebook. Ford and Bosch are working with Oculus for Business to manage their fleet of headsets deployed to the Ford technician training program, as well as with PIXO VR. The company’s proprietary virtual reality content distribution platform enables scaling and iterating virtual reality training software and applications.
     
  14. litesong

    litesong litesong

    What's an SUV or pickup? Oh, I remember seein' such strange things on the highway!! Yeah, designed fer carryin' things & people, which they generally don't. I know what yer talkin' about now!
     
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  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E More Power, Less Filling :)

    Hi All:

    2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E

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    The all-electric Mustang Mach-E order banks are now open in the U.S., and reservation holders are being invited to convert their reservations to official orders for the latest addition of the Mustang.

    Ford also is confirming updated performance specs following recent charging and driver-assist technology news:
    • Extended-range all-wheel-drive Mach-E will deliver 346 horsepower/258 kilowatts and 428 lb.-ft. of torque, up from previous estimates of 332 horsepower/240 kilowatts and 417 lb.-ft., right out of the gate – with a targeted 0-60-mph time in the mid-5-second range
    • Extended-range rear-wheel-drive models will produce 290 horsepower/216 kilowatts and 317 lb.-ft., up from 282 horsepower/210 kilowatts and 306 lb.-ft.
    • Standard-range all-wheel-drive models will pump out 266 horsepower/198 kilowatts and 428 lb.-ft., up from 255 horsepower/190 kilowatts and 417 lb.-ft.
    • Standard-range rear-wheel-drive models will deliver 266 horsepower/198 kilowatts and 317 lb.-ft., up from 255 horsepower/190 kilowatts and 306 lb.-ft.
    Wayne
     
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  16. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E and the 10-minute Top Off

    The all-new Mustang Mach-E can add an estimated average of 61 miles of range in approximately 10 minutes at an Electrify America DC fast charging station with the extended-range battery and rear-wheel drive, an improvement of approximately 14 miles or 30 percent versus previous estimates. ;)

    2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E on a Home Level2

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    The AWD version with extended-range battery is estimated to add an average of 52 miles of range in approximately 10 minutes as well. Both AWD and RWD configurations are estimated to achieve a 10 percent to 80 percent charge in approximately 45 minutes while charging on a DC fast charging station.

    Mustang Mach-E with standard-range battery is estimated to add an average of 46 miles of range in 10 minutes for RWD models and 42 miles for AWD models, with a 10 percent to 80 percent charge in approximately 38 minutes while charging on a DC fast charging station.

    Ford and its network providers have expanded the FordPass Charging Network to include an additional 1,000 electric vehicle charging stations and 5,000 charge plugs, giving future Mustang Mach-E owners even more confidence for planning their journeys. This brings the total number of charging stations and individual charge plugs in the FordPass Charging Network – easily accessible via the FordPass app – to more than 13,500 and almost 40,000, respectively, linking to the largest electric vehicle public charging network in North America.

    Chart your own course using this interactive map, which will help you find the nearest charging stations on the FordPass network on your route.

    L2 Home Charging

    Ford will make available a 11.5 kW, 48A Ford Connected Charge Station will be able to charge a Mustang Mach-E in just over 10 hours or 30 miles per charging hour. Every Ford all-electric vehicle will come standard with a Ford mobile charger, which is capable of charging on a L2 240V electrical outlet and can add an average range of 21 miles per charging hour.

    With the higher-power outlet, Mustang Mach-E with extended-range battery and RWD can go from 0 to 100 percent charge in approximately 14.1 hours, while a standard 120-volt electrical outlet will result in an average range of three miles per charging hour.
     
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  17. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E Customers Receive 250 kWhs of Free ‘Fill-ups’ on the Electrify America Network

    2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E

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    Ford Mustang Mach-E owners will receive 250 kWhs of complimentary charging through FordPass Rewards on Electrify America fast-charging stations to kick-start their electric vehicle experience.

    For Mustang Mach-E owners with the extended-range battery, the 250 kWhs of fast- charging energy is equal to more than three fill-ups. For standard-range battery models, the 250 kWhs of fast charging energy is equal to more than five fill-ups. For any of us, 250 kWhs would drive the Mach-E an estimated 1,500-miles or more than half way across the country. ;)

    This is in addition to the two years of complimentary access Mustang Mach-E customers automatically receive to the recently expanded FordPass Charging Network for easy pay-as-you-go charging. The FordPass Charging Network is North America’s largest public charging network with more than 13,500 charging stations and almost 40,000 individual plugs.

    Electrify America’s network offers the largest number of high-powered public charging stations on the market today.

    Using Electrify America’s DC fast chargers, rear-wheel-drive-equipped Mustang Mach-E with an extended-range battery can add an estimated 61 miles of range in approximately 10 minutes. Both all-wheel-drive and rear-wheel-drive configurations are estimated to be able to achieve a 10 percent to 80 percent charge in approximately 45 minutes.
     
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  18. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    While doing some research on the non-documented Garmin DriveSmart 71 with traffic EX GPS unit today, I came across this release from Garmin. Along with Android Auto and Apple Car Play with Google Maps, Ford is embedding a GARMIN back end within SYNC 4.0 for std. onboard navigation.

    2021 Ford Mustang MACH-E with its 15.5” display and Next Gen SYNC

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    Like the 2020 Ford Explorer Hybrid we drove last year, the Push Button Start is an an ergonomically unfriendly location.​

    Garmin and Ford collaborate on next-generation of SYNC for Mustang Mach-E

    Earlier this year Garmin announced a new strategic partnership with Ford that integrates Garmin’s class leading navigation technology into the recently announced Ford next-generation SYNC communications and entertainment system through the 15.5” portrait display.

    Later this year, next-generation SYNC users will be able to enjoy access to Garmin’s navigation features including cloud-based mapping and routing, electric vehicle (EV) routing, range management details, and the latest connected services to facilitate an optimal driving experience.

    The joint effort between Garmin and Ford helps next-generation SYNC distinguish itself from traditional embedded navigation systems, thanks to connected maps and EV-specific features. The platform also allows drivers to travel with confidence by retaining on-board maps and routing that ensure navigation is available through dead zones.

    Garmin OEM provides user-friendly products that are not only sought after for their compelling design, superior quality and best value, but also for their innovative features that enhance the lives of our customers.

    The next gen SYNC’s OTA updateable solution through the 15.5-inch display with an adaptive dash card interface is said to remove complicated menus, making it easier to access features with touch, swipe and pinch controls that every smartphone user will be comfortable with.

    Beating Google Maps is tough. Garmin’s is slightly more intuitive as I use both in vehicles that have Android Auto included.

    Wayne
     
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  19. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The Mustang MachE drives even better than it looks... And efficiency is in the bag if the non-calibrated eFCD results are even close to accurate.

    2021 Ford Mustang MachE

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    Looking out over the Pacific about 2,000' above Malibu, California.​

    Let us first talk about charging the MachE.

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    The Ford Mustang MachE incorporates an ~ 98 kWh traction battery with ~ 88 kWh of that useable. The Tesla Model Y Long Range by comparison uses an ~ 85 kWh pack with ~ 75 kWh useable.

    From a 1 kW L1, ~ 90 hours from flat. :D

    From a 7.6 kW J1772 L2, about 11-hours from flat.

    The Lead Engineer did not provide us with a charging profile which would have been extremely useful but from a 150 kW SAE CCS L3, the first ~ 18 kWh is blazing fast at the full 150 kW charging rate. The next ~ 40 to 60 kWh is at a reduced rate of between 80 and 100 kW. The final ~ 15 to 30 kWh is at a further reduced rate of maybe 50 kW. From 10 to 80 percent or the addition of ~ 210 to 215 miles of AER, takes just 45-minutes. I tried to get more but until the first measured charge outside of Ford's techs, this is still a question mark.

    Wayne
     
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  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    And the efficiency side of the equation?

    I was driving an Extended Range AWD (ER-AWD) for the morning portion of the program rated at 270-miles of All-electric range (AER).

    The first drive segment consisted of the std. downtown LA light to light nightmare scenario covering 10.2 miles over the course of 45-minutes or about 13.4 mph. The non-calibrated result from the EPA city rated 3.25 miles/kWh yielded an indicated result far beyond that spec at an incredible (non-calibrated) 5.6 miles/kWh.

    Remember that 99.95 percent of OEMs odometers are rated between 1 and 2 percent short of actual so as to not get into trouble with the FTC/DOT. In late November of 2005, a lawsuit was filed against Honda indicating their OEM odometers were racking on miles faster than the actual distances covered. In February of 2007, the plaintiff won, and since that time OEMs have been very sensitive to the issue so as to not get sued. Keep this in mind with the display miles indicated on the following pics. I left my Garmin in the car and did not complete a mileage study for the offset as I do with our std. review vehicles...

    2021 Mustang MachE ER-AWD Inner City Drive Results

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    City: 10.2 miles/0.762 hours = 13.4 mph avg. speed - 5.6 miles/kWh indicated​

    Wayne
     
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