Under Retaliatory Pressure from Trump, Toyota Backs California Emissions Standards Revocation

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] Not a good look as Manufacturers that did not back the Administration received an antitrust inquiry from the DOJ.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – November 1, 2019


    Under Trump Administration pressure, Toyota entered into this legal action that will impact how emissions standards are applied with their own carefully worded release.
    GM, Toyota and members of the Automotive Alliance believe it is a far safer bet to back the White House in order to avoid Trump Administration retaliation.

    Ford, BMW, Volkswagen, and Honda already struck a deal to side with California and abide by its tougher rules, publicly opposing Mr. Trump.

    From the NY Times: "White House Pressed Car Makers to Join Its Fight Over California Emissions Rules" story, after California filed its suit fighting the administration’s revocation of its emissions authority, the Department of Justice (DOJ) opened antitrust inquiries into Ford, BMW, Volkswagen, and Honda that has previously joined with California. The administration also sent a letter to the state threatening to withhold federal highway funds if it did not revoke its own emissions standards.

    The following is the one paragraph with the most pressure as Toyota already meets the emissions standards in all 50-states lead by California and has product plans in place to meet the final 2025 metric without changing product cadence laid out to date. “Needing to encourage consumers to trade in older, less efficient vehicles for newer vehicles that have higher fuel economy…” It has been pointed out tens of thousands of times including by Toyota themselves that a Toyota hybrid saves consumers thousands of dollars over the life of the vehicle along with a vast reduction in Greenhouse gas emissions vs the non-hybrid counterpart.
    I singled out Toyota because GM, Ford, FCA, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Subaru, Kia, and VW did not create a release on the matter. Toyota and the rest of the OEMs have a tough enough time to keep their heads above water without this kind of political BS!
  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

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  3. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    I am sad that some car companies aren't taking the high road.
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Neil:

    Given Toyota is a Japanese auto manufacturer, they had little choice but to take this route.

  5. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    That didn't stop Honda.
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Trollbait
    Honda is not a part of the Auto Alliance and was probably hoping to glide under the radar. They got hit with the Antitrust Inquiry by this admins DOJ just like Ford. :(

  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    There are always consequences... California has just announced that beginning on Jan. 1, they will no longer purchase any vehicles from GM, Toyota, FCA, and Nissan for fleet use. Basically, anyone that followed the Auto Alliance lead in over ruling California emissions standards. The winners include Ford and Honda going forward.

    According to Autonews, between 2016 and 2018, California purchased $69.2 million in vehicles from Ford, $58.6 million in vehicles from GM, $55.8 million from FCA, $10.6 million from Toyota, and $9 million from Nissan.

  8. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    When did the Civil War begin ? I haven't been paying much attention.
    Will CA secede from the USA ? We can only hope.
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Toyota doubles down... The PR and Marketing team really should just let this one go silent as their competitors have.

    "Toyota’s Statement Regarding Uniform National Fuel Economy and Greenhouse Gas Emissions Standards"

    Plano, TX -- November 21, 2019 -- Toyota is passionate about the environment and reducing our impact. Our drive for continuous improvement of society is built into our DNA, and as a leader in electrified vehicles, it’s who we are as a company. The 179,000 Americans who support their families working for Toyota and our dealerships feel the same way. Toyota supports year-over-year improvements in fuel economy that provide meaningful benefits to our climate, while better aligning with what consumers want. That’s why we remain committed to be an industry leader in the development of vehicles that help reduce greenhouse gases.

    Toyota entered into this legal action not as a plaintiff or a defendant, and not to favor any political party. Toyota is intervening to impact how emissions standards are applied. We want to help forge a sustainable compromise for consumers and the environment. Without joining this legal action, we would have no ability to affect the outcome.

    We do not believe that there should be different fuel economy standards in different states. There should be one standard for all Americans and all auto companies. That is why we decided to be part of this legal matter. Doing so does not diminish our commitment to the environment, nor does it lower our desire to manufacture vehicles that produce fewer emissions year-after-year.

    Multiple standards will result in higher vehicle prices. And if vehicle prices increase, consumers are more likely to keep older, less efficient cars longer. We can do more to reduce greenhouse gases by focusing on the 250 million vehicles already on the road today. We need to encourage consumers to trade in older, less efficient vehicles for newer vehicles that have higher fuel economy and therefore emit fewer greenhouse gases. We won’t be able to do that if prices are beyond what people are willing to or can afford.

    We’re proud of our history of environmental achievements and progress. Since 2000 here in the U.S., we’ve sold over 3.6 million hybrids which have saved over 7.6 billion gallons of fuel and kept over 68 million tons of CO2 from entering the atmosphere. That’s the equivalent to taking 13.4 million vehicles off the road for a year. Currently, 11 percent of our sales consist of hybrid, plug-in hybrid and fuel cell electric vehicles—that’s three times the industry average. We sell more alternative powertrain vehicles than the rest of the industry combined. And we’re working on increasing these numbers. By 2020, our plan goes up to 15 percent of our sales and by 2025, that number jumps to 25 percent, or one of every four vehicles sold.

    We’re proud that our North America Headquarters in Plano, Texas, our Production Engineering and Manufacturing Center in Georgetown, Kentucky and our Supplier Center in York Township, Michigan were all certified LEED Platinum, the U.S. Green Building Council’s highest rating.

  10. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    Guess they just like holes, or liked having the US as a dumping ground for out of date technology.
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  11. litesong

    litesong litesong

    You don't have to listen to the putin russian internet interference & separation propaganda, which got the UK & the European Union to split. We're one country, we need to believe it & refuse the putin propaganda poop.
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  12. litesong

    litesong litesong

    There ya go. If'n California paid "don'T rump" as much as putin paid "don'T rump", California would be set up well...... maybe not! "don'T rump" has been money laundering putin & russian billionaire stealings for decades. putin commands "don'T rump" to roll over & "don'T rump" keeps rolling over till commanded to stop.
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Ford says automakers should consider backing California emissions deal

    Dec. 2020 -- Ford is urging major automakers to consider backing a framework deal with California on vehicle emissions in a bid to reach industry consensus before President-elect Joe Biden takes office, according to a letter seen by Reuters on Monday.

    Major automakers are set to discuss next steps at a virtual meeting of their auto trade association Tuesday, which comes a week after General Motors Co abruptly announced it would no longer back the Trump administration’s ongoing effort to bar California from setting its own vehicle emissions rules.

    In October 2019, GM joined Toyota Motor Corp, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV and other automakers in backing President Donald Trump in the California fight.

    Ford, Honda Motor Co, Volkswagen AG and BMW in July 2019 struck a voluntary agreement with California on reducing vehicle emissions through the 2026 model years that would allow them to meet a single nationwide standard. The targets would be lower than Obama-era rules through but higher than the Trump administration’s rollback...
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