Tesla Model Y Preview and (TSLA) Q3 2019 Earnings Up Significantly!

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  1. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Looking at the Model Y profile and guessing where the 3rd row seating goes, I wouldn't feel very safe back there, especially with the 'crazies' out there gunning for the Teslas.
     
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  2. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Wait...………..there are crazies in this country ?
     
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  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Rumors are out that the Model Ys release schedule is being moved up by a quarter to this Summer.

    Wayne
     
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  4. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Trying to get out in front of Ford?

    Elon has always wanted EV competition ... this might be a "be careful what you wish for" situation.
     
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    With the Tesla Long Range models specs below, I wonder where the Model Y Long Range will stand among its siblings?

    2020 Model S AWD Long Range (373 miles)

    4,883 lbs, 100 kWh pack, 0 to 60 in 3.7 sec., 155 mph top speed, 200 kW max charging, 11.5 kW onboard charging

    2020 Model X AWD Long Range (328 miles)

    5,421 lbs, 100 kWh pack, 0 to 60 in 4.4 sec., 155 mph top speed, 200 kW max charging, 11.5 kW onboard charging

    2020 Model 3 AWD Long Range (322 miles)

    4,032 lbs, 75 kWh pack, 0 to 60 in 4.4 sec., 250 kW max charging, 11.5 kW onboard charging

    2021 Model Y RWD Long Range (300 miles)

    TBA lbs, TBA kWh pack, 0 to 60 in 5.5 sec., 130 mph top speed, TBA kW max charging, TBA kW onboard charging

    Wayne
     
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  6. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Yeah, they call them AGW deniers & EV haters.
     
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  7. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I agree. My Elantras aren't high tech wonders. But, even the Elantras make me scroll through two pages, just to get to the treble & bass controls, then I have to scroll to treble AND then set the treble. Then, scroll to the bass AND then set the bass. Hey, just put treble & bass knobs on the radio.
    The Tesla Model 3 has me go into the menu to find how the glove box opens up? Maybe I'll figure it out. My Elantra has a button on the glove box. No computer, no electricity, no "what do I do now?".
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    It appears that the Model Y is just weeks away from first customer release and far ahead of schedule as rumors have indicated for months.

    2021 Tesla Model Y

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    From the Model Y FAQ: Model Y production is expected to begin in late 2020 for North America, and in early 2021 for Europe and China. Standard Range production is expected to begin in early 2021 for North America, and in early 2022 for Europe and China. The first Model Y by spring appears to be in order. Tesla is not slowing down...

    As mentioned previously, if the Model Y sells like Tesla believes it will, more than the S, X, and 3 combined, Tesla in the U.S. could become larger than Audi, Mazda, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and even VW before the end of 2022.

    Wayne
     
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  9. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Do you think the Model Y step-up is due to the success of the Model 3?
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Litesong:

    It was an easy transition. A Model 3 platform with a taller shell for more $s that makes more money and is a model that is in more demand. Compact to midsize CUVs are hot right now.

    Wayne
     
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  11. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Oh, oh. You said it. I'll put taller tires on it & it'll be really tall. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Model Y, so high in the sky! :D
     
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  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Tesla in Canada is calling Model Y reservation holders confirming deliveries next month!
    2021 Tesla Model Y

    [​IMG]

    Wayne
     
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The Tesla Model Y has been range rated by Tesla at 315 miles of AER, the highest rating of any all-electric SUV/CUV available anywhere. Outside the X that is. ;)

    [​IMG]

    Tesla is saying the Model Y can recharge at a rate of 158-miles in 15-minutes. With the Model 3 able to charge at 172 miles in 15-minutes, it appears the Model Y has the same 250 kW maximum DC High Speed Charging rate capable HW. However, 250 kW is only stable for less than a minute and then quickly falls off to a more stable 130 kW through about 55 percent SoC after just a few minutes. In any case, 315 miles of AER from 100% to flat SoC and ability to charge off a V3 Supercharger to 80 percent or more than 250-miles of range in under an hour is pretty stunning.

    First deliveries begin in March of 2020, a full 6-months before the previously announced official release date. We will be watching sales where we can find them. ;)

    Wayne
     
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  14. litesong

    litesong litesong

    If an owner does a lot of such battery abuse, how much is the battery life shortened, specially if the owner likes to over-accelerate, drive at 80+MPH..... & in a hot climate.... & discharge the battery into single digits.... in other words, more battery abuse.
     
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  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Litesong:

    I am sure you have read Carcus' posts on this.

    If you own a Tesla Model S, X, 3, or upcoming Y, are you always going to charge it at a V3 Super Charger at 250 kW or 95+ percent of the time in your garage at a max of maybe 9.6 kW?

    Wayne
     
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  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    In my garage. 100% of the time.
     
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  17. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I'm not rich like the people buying expensive EVs. A good percentage of rich EV owners are abusing battery packs & are selling their EVs, so poorer 2nd & 3rd hand EV owners now have the abused battery packs. It is one of the reasons 2nd hand EV prices plunge so low.
    My question: Is it easy to determine major battery pack abuse before purchase?
     
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  18. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    When people that can't charge at home, then multiple fast charges becomes a concern, but there are enough people that can charge at home to support continued growth of the market at this time.

    The main drive for low used prices on plug ins was the huge incentives on buying new.

    The only model with a known history for capacity loss was the Leaf with its crappy cooling system.
     
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  19. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    And those Nissan "spent" batteries are finding their way into grid energy storage projects...
     
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  20. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    YMMV -- quite literally --

    From the Tesla new** new vehicle limited warranty:

    "Your vehicle updates its software wirelessly, constantly providing new features and improvementsfor your vehicle, including updates to protect and improve Battery longevity. Any noticeable changes to the performance of the Battery due to these software updates are NOT covered under this Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty."

    https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/downloads/tesla-new-vehicle-limited-warranty-en-us.pdf

    :(
    **hot off the press as of 1-29-20
     
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