Mazda issues already

Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by psyshack, Jul 28, 2007.

  1. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    I squirted the MZ# out in traffic the other day. I had to launch it to clear 4 lanes of traffic and get on with my grind home. I launched the car off a downhill grade. And it made a bang noise like a pistol went off in the car. From what I hear its wheel hop. It sounded like the whole engine bounce off the firewall and bottom of the car.

    So the wife and i chatted about it. Called our evil lawyer buddy. We called Mazda credit and I took the car by the dealer.... Got the opening run around. Shut him up and told him the deal. We have already contacted our lawyer. Mazda credit and now you know. The car will be fixed,,, picked up and returned by you. Or it gets put on your lot and left. Plain and simple... I will go right down the street and buy another... Period. He3 didn't know what to say. I looked him straight in the eye and told him again. I will abandon the car in your service lot. If I wanted trouble and bad engineering.... I would have kept my Honda...

    So time will tell.....
  2. laserred02

    laserred02 Active Member

    I have seen on several mazda forums that the motor mounts have a tendency to break in those vehicles, that may be what you have experience. It is worth doing a google search on.

    Best of luck.
  3. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    OOO I searched it out. Seemed the issue had ended in late 05 or early 06. and yes the AC is weak. But I dont use AC much so its a moot point to me. Ive never been a freeze queen like so many americans are.
  4. MnFocus

    MnFocus hanging member :)

    They should (read that as "better") fix it under a warranty - not the vehicle warranty - a customer satisfaction warranty . "You're not satisfied ,so we'll fix it " I believe is the clause I heard uttered at a dealer . Way too new to even consider it abuse/lack of maintainance blah blah .
  5. aca2983

    aca2983 Well-Known Member

    So what's the diagnosis? Is it being looked at? Is something broken?

    If it's wheel hop, it's not broken. When wheel hop happens if you acclerate hard from a stop, it is not pleasant, but it's not a phenomena exlusive to the Mazda3. The Goodyear RSA-s are awful, and wheel hop does not occur with other tires so badly. BTW, try not to ever hit the rev limiter, that's scary and not pleasant.
  6. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    I found it last night. I put the car up on ramps and found it. The right mount under and besides the battery box was loose and not centered. I did the TSB on it and its fine now. The four bolts had hit the sides of the frame mounting point. That was the awful bang I heard.

    I centered the mount per the TSB, put locktite on the bolts and torqued them down a bit more snug than the factory specs. I took messurements of the holes and bolts so I can make some centering washers if Mazda doesn't have them.

    It looked to me like somebody was doing the TSB on the car and didn't finish it. But that doesn't make sense because the TSB was for 05 I think.

    Any way it was driving me crazy. I couldn't sleep last night so I fixed it myself. Will contact the dealer and Mazda in a few hours and call the dogs off.

  7. diamondlarry

    diamondlarry Super MPG Man/god :D

    Psy, that's good news about the fix. Hopefully this will be the worst thing that happens with the Mazda and you won't have the nightmares you did with the Honda.
  8. aca2983

    aca2983 Well-Known Member

    I hope a self-help TSB doesn't get you into warranty issues.
  9. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    Nope it wont. People are to timid with auto manufactures and dealers. Im like a rabid junk yard dog when it comes to those bone heads. Also thats why I do my financing thru there company. IE Mazda credit. If it gets ugly I will leave the car, keys and title at the nearest dealer lot. Funny how things get done when the finance company get involves and its part of the company's substructure.

    Now I did not finance the Civic thru Honda,,, Just the Accord. I went with Harris at the time because they gave me a great interest rate compared to Honda. But knowing that Harris is a very big player in auto finance in America I knew they wouldn't go down with out a fight also. So remember a finance co. does not want a default on a loan because there cust. and a dealer or company cant get a long. They can and will bring some weight to bare if you do it right. :)

    I have no concerns what so ever my friend..... :D

  10. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    I hope that is the last of your issues with this car, Psy! It sounds as though you had way more than your share of problems with the Civic and it is about time you had a trouble free vehicle.

    Isn't it amazing how "incompetent" mechanics at auto dealers can appear at times? I one time found the brake reservoir cap sitting on the manifold after I drove home from the dealer! Sheesh.

    I've never experienced anything like what you described, but then again I can count the number of times I "dropped the hammer" from a stop during my 13 years of driving on one hand. I'm not exactly an aggressive driver. ;)
  11. laurieaw

    laurieaw Sorceress of the North

    i had an experience on the bad lines when i had an oil change done, and they weren't familiar with the honda cover under the car. one night i am driving home and the thing started flapping in the breeze. the front part of it, under the front cowling, had come loose. i took it to honda, who said that it appeared it had been cut in order to do the oil change. talk about stupid. i went back and the place paid for the replacement of the cover, and now they are very very nice to me when i go in for an oil change.
  12. pumaman

    pumaman Well-Known Member

    I've had my Mazda 6 for just over a year now and have had the check engine light come on twice. Brought it in and the first time they changed the Purge Control Valve solenoid. The second time they changed the Valve itself and also the gas cap which wouldn't seal properly. Both times the dealer paid for an Enterprise rental car while mine was being repaired.
    Well, not exactly rental car. The first time I ended up having to drive a full size Hemi powered pick-up truck for two days. It was weird riding around in that. Instant power trip. I felt like yelling to people, "Get out of my way or I'll run your butt over!"
    Second time my most economical option was a Kia Sportage. They seem quite a bit bigger these days than when I was considering buying one back in 2000.
    I've had similar luck when renting cars while travelling too. Reserve a compact, end up getting a full sized SUV cause that's all that's left...
  13. johnf514

    johnf514 Zoom? Try Glide!

    I've experienced wheel hop as well on the 1st-2nd and 2nd-3rd shift under WOT. No problems with mounts though.

    Glad to hear you're back on the road. :)
  14. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    Today was the day I got to play with the Mazdas fluids.

    Took it for a drive this morning to pick up a few things. Got her nice and warm. Then came out the ramps and all the goodys.

    Got the car up up on the ramps. Removed the half arse engine shield. Its not a pan by any means. 7ea. 10mm bolts and 2ea push clips and it was down. A bit of looking around showed the castings were well thought out and of good quality. Everything seemed to be finished out well and in good order.

    I then proceeded to drain the OEM goooo out of the engine and transmission. I smoked a cig and put down a beer while she dripped all the horrid OEM goo's out. And they were nasty. At 1750 miles the engine oil looked like black graphite liquid. The MT transmission fluid looked like something out of the south end of a very sick child. I then got the OEM Mazda oil filter out of it and replaced it with a STP. Canister filter was wax on and wax off. Very easy to do.

    I then refilled the crankcase with my drippings from past oil changes. Half qt. of M1 5w-20 here a partial 0w-20 M1 bottle, a qt. of Havert King HD w30, Some Motorcraft 5w-20 and 5w-30 I had. Im sure you get the picture. I then refilled the transmission with some straight up heap cheap Penn. 75w-80 GL4-5 gear lube.

    I then set out to drive the car for 20 miles. OOO looky here theres a casino. Go throw $5 in a machine and walk out with $100. Drive back home and then hot box the car for 30 mins. Get it good and hot. Then drive it another 20 miles passing by the casino.

    Come back to the house and drain the engine oil. Crap!!!! There is still black goo in the oil. Its streaking into the pan. I cant have this. So I hop in the Ranger and go get a jug of Motorcraft 5w-20. Dump it in. Then drain the tranny. Humm it went in almost clear and came out with a brown tint. OK this isnt to bad. Some trapped air in the oil and rememts of the factory goo. Do I pour this stuff back in. Sure why not. Lets run it some more. :) The whole time Im using white porcelain wash pans. So every thing is spotless clean.

    So I take it out again. Drive it 20 miles. Hot box it again for 30 mins. Then drive it another 20 miles. Drain everything and its spotless. The oil looked great and the tranny fluid darkened yet a bit more. A this point Im happy and can pour the good stuff in it.

    The requires another beer. I pull out the oil filter and drop a Wix in it. Again a painless operation. I then drop in 4.5 qt. of M1 0w-20. I then put 3 qt. of M1 75w-80 in the transmission. I get a dribble out of the fill hole on the tranny and do the pinky double check and put the fill plug in. I put the pan back on and took her off the ramps. Backed her up the drive to my normal final fluid check spot and all was good. And about half the reverse gear whine had left.

    I then ran down to the car wash and blasted her off. Took some Mothers detail spray to the paint and dressed the tires. The purple popped very nice. Its sooooo nice to have a car of color! The Civics silver really sucked over all.

    Driving it around town it was clear it liked the new bath all the parts were splashing in. :D We need not say anything more about that. :woot:

    The tires are a 50 psi and its digging very well. ;)

    I will run this oil change 5k miles and change it. Check the transmission fluid then. If I don't like the way it looks I will refill it. Then put it on its 10k mile OCI and every third oil change transmission service. At the 5k mile mark / 6750 mile total mark. I will rotate the tires... Do a full inspection, lube hinges and such,, check valve clearances and spend a hour or so with a torque wrench going over the car.

    The levels on the power steering, radiator over flow and brakes looked great. No surprises to be found any where.

    So here's to life with the MZ3....:bananahuge:

    Last edited: Aug 5, 2007
  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jeff:

    ___The next time I am in your neck of the woods, I am letting you perform the magic on the Accord! That was a nice flush of the moly loaded goo but tar black? I wonder what in the h3!! They had in there?

    ___Good Luck


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