Month of August 2019 (Nat’l Avg $2.719)

Discussion in 'The Daily Grind' started by Gord, Aug 1, 2019.

  1. visionseeming

    visionseeming Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys! I couldn't quite get either of them to follow my driving route, but anyway here's the profile on the route the crow files:

    So the linear distance is 9.7mi with an average drop of about 400ft along the way. I think my current route of 10.8mi is about as short as it gets... I have not yet found a way to ask Google Maps to give me the "shortest distance" route, they always go by shortest time given traffic conditions, etc.
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  2. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    I tend to use Google Maps before or after the drive so I know what to expect, or so I can see how the drive can be improved later. Start with the end points, then either enter stops through locations you know you will or have passed. That's the slower way of adjusting the route on Google Maps. Alternatively, you can just click anywhere along the route that "it" chose and drag that point to your desired via or checkpoint. Do that as many times as you like, just make sure you don't double back on the route. :) When caring about the elevations and using the "bicycle" routing mode, Google Maps takes all kinds of side roads that one would not use in the car. It will take a little extra work to duplicate the route on the map as driven by a car, but still doable. Good luck!.

    If you like, PM me a set of checkpoints and destinations and I'll generate the Google route for you. The resultant Google map url (assuming you're doing the routing in a web browser and not the app) with modifications can be sent.
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  3. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    53.9 / 5.3 - home
    65.8 / 5.1 - work

    But in between those I let someone borrow my car to run to the store.

    Tank is down from 56 to 51.6. :/ Still reading F so it's easy to knock it down, but still...
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  4. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

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  5. visionseeming

    visionseeming Well-Known Member

    Alright, today I left way too late and paid the price... punctuality has several advantages. :)
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    94.4 MPG / 10.9 mi to work,
    62.4 MPG / 10.9 mi back home.

    I saved 5-6 minutes per trip because the freeway traffic was mostly clear at these driving times. I maintained about 45-50 MPH in the right-most lane. Note the extra 0.1 miles each way: this was also caused by tardiness. I had to go down an extra level in the parking structure to find an open spot.

    And why did I leave late? Well I was on the phone with the insurance company trying to confirm my policy has been updated to reduce the Geo's annual miles to 850 (my policy began in June and that's what I've driven it since then). Sent them time-stamped photos of odometer readings last Friday along with their "Estimated Annual Miles" form. Then I was trying to find a suitable car cover for the Prius C on Amazon (and I did, and ordered it). I just spend a good 12 hours last weekend washing/waxing and detailing the exterior and vacuuming and cleaning the interior and I intend to keep it in this condition. :) I need to take some good pictures and share them in another thread.
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  6. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 74 deg F in Naperville , 71 in Wood Dale , and a frigid 67 in Toronto.
    35.0 miles , 65.6 MPG. Tank is at 299.0 miles , 66.7 MPG.
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  7. visionseeming

    visionseeming Well-Known Member

    So I finally filled up my first tank this morning! Can't use it to calibrate the FCD unfortunately since I filled the whole tank, whereas my previous tank started around 1/2.

    90.5 MPG / 4.9 mi from home to Costco parking lot. By the time I got there, the lowest bar was flashing, and Cruising Range hit 0 miles. Which is about as low as I want to take this car.

    From there I walked to the Walmart in the same complex (maybe 1/2 a mile away), got a 8 oz bottle of StaBil and a hand-pump (to use for topping off tires with at home), walked back to car and pulled up to the right-most aisle.

    Unfortunately only one pump in the aisle was working, the one on the front, and there was a sign stating the rear pump was out of service. I naively thought this would discourage other customers from using this aisle and I could do my business in peace... There was another car ahead of me, and I waited about 5 mins for them to finish. By the time I pull up to the pump, I notice one pick-up had pulled behind, but went ahead taking some pictures of the odometer and getting the StaBil open, etc. This prompted a few honks from the driver behind, and by this time there was yet another car behind him. Driver comes up to me and says I should be doing this at home, not wasting his and the next driver's time. Not wanting to escalate I just say I'm sorry and proceed to put in 4oz of the StaBil and fill up the tank at first-click with full flow rate. By this time he tells the driver behind him I'm wasting everyone's time and they both move to another aisle. I think he then complained to the attendant but didn't do much good.

    Lesson learned: avoid filling up at Costco gas "rush hour" at all costs... this station opens at 5:30 so had I planned better I could have gotten there around 6, avoiding the nonsense. :)

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    So I decided I'm going to keep Trip A as a running "lifetime" trip meter (for my ownership of the car anyway), we'll see when it gets clipped from too many miles. Trip B will be my current tank meter.

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    99.9 MPG / 7.7 mi from gas station to work. I later found out the shortest route would have been 7.3 mi, so I'll use that next time.

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    65.5 MPG / 10.8 mi from work to home. I left later than I should have... had to merge into freeway at relatively high speed due to lack of congestion.

    New tank sits at 76.8 MPG / 18.5 mi.
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  8. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    It baffles my mind how the c can earn such a low EPA rating , yet have such great real-world results. Does Yota want us to buy the Liftback or Prime instead ,
    because they are more profitable ?

    Today , 65 deg F in Naperville , 63 in Wood Dale, , 64 in Toronto.
    35.1 miles ( stopped to get coffee ) , 64.0 MPG. Tank is at 371.0 miles , fcd says 69.9 MPG x 0.956 = 66.8 MPG.
    visionseeming , my Gen 3 Prius Liftback consistently shows about a 4.5% error , so I use a compensation factor of 0.956.
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  9. visionseeming

    visionseeming Well-Known Member

    I don't know if we hypermilers can be considered to be living in the "real-world"... :) If I drove like the average driver on the road these days, I probably would achieve EPA or less. ;)
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  10. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Much less , I would think. And we DO have to live in this world , unless you've found a better one. When I say "real world results" ,
    I mean one of us is driving it. Not the heathen infidels. :)
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  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 72 deg F in Naperville , 71 in Wood Dale . and 69 in Toronto.
    23.2 miles , 71.9 MPG. Tank is at 513.9 miles , 146 remaining , 67.0 MPG.
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  12. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    81F in TX this morning.

    71.6 mpg / 5.1 miles

    Tank 53.3 / 132 mi. Still just barely above F.
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  13. visionseeming

    visionseeming Well-Known Member

    Friday had a bit more driving, but after I got home I didn't feel like posting. After work I had stopped at the post office, then a gas station to add some air to the tires, then back home. I took pictures but I'll spare you the details. :) The current tank ended at 76.0 MPG / 43.3 mi on Friday.

    No driving over the weekend, but did pull the car out onto the driveway to rinse, and parked in back in the garage. Gas engine lighted up both times since SOC was too low. I also attempted a wheel rotation with the tools I had but failed... that's a story for another thread. :(

    This morning, also a bit longer driving than usual, stopped by post office again to pick up parcel (which I could have done on Friday if I left much earlier). The car cover I ordered came in. Forgot to charge my phone Sunday night so couldn't take any pictures.

    Since I ran the errands in the morning, started work late and left late... light freeway traffic forced faster accels and higher cruising speeds (45 to 55 mph).
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    60.0 MPG / 10.9 mi, work to home.

    The current tank is down at 75.0 MPG / 67.7 mi.
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  14. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 71 deg in Naperville and Wood Dale , 68 in Toronto.
    35.0 miles , 64.2 MPG. Tank is at 582.1 miles , 67.3 MPG.
    I have to go to Lemont after work today , which means more highway.
    On I-355 , which is the most expensive tollway in the state. Yes, we pay toll.
    Lots of toll , if you cannot avoid using the tollways.
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  15. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Ugh tolls. Thankfully I'm not in the city much, but Dallas has been changing a lot of HOV lanes into paid toll "express" lanes instead. :mad:

    53.9 / 5.3 home last night, 100 degrees
    66.7 this morning at 83F

    Tank is up to 53.7 / 143 mi and right on F.
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  16. visionseeming

    visionseeming Well-Known Member

    Bit more driving than usual today...

    First, left early enough to hit peak traffic on freeway. Downside was there was a bit more traffic in city as well, which caused more accel/decel to flow a little better with other vehicles.
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    95.6 MPG / 10.8 miles home to work.

    Started work earlier and left earlier, but went to Walmart to return the manual pump (rated "100 psi" but I could barely reach 30 psi using my full body weight on tiny bicycle tires... forget about car tires and at the pressures we like to run them at ;)) and pick up some groceries. Traffic was heavy.
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    62.5 MPG / 7.2 miles work to Walmart.

    Was minding my own business getting some groceries, when I got stopped by some guy caught up in some MLM business trying to peddle me his BS. They always start off friendly and never tell you the name of the company they represent (usually because it is so besmirched already). Told him I know all about "Scamway" and "Britt World Wide" but he insists this is so much better. Apparently I need experts to tell me what lotion to apply to my face and what protein powders I should buy... no thanks!
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    61.9 MPG / 4.7 miles from Walmart to home.

    Current tank is down at 74.9 MPG / 90.5 miles. "Guess" gauge is still at 10 bars, (I did NOT top off). Assuming ~8 gallons from first-click full to low fuel warning empty, each bar should be 0.8 gallons. Whereas I have used ~1.2 gallons already based on the FCD. We'll see how quickly it goes down from here. :)
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  17. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Beautiful weather (again/still ) today , 69 deg F in Naperville , 65 in Wood Dale , and 67 in the Great White North.
    35.0 miles , 64.1 MPG. Tank is at 41.1 miles , 64.4 MPG. Filled up yesterday for $2.899 at Amoco in Naperville.
    632.7 miles , fcd = 70.9 x 0.956 = 67.8 MPG. 632.7 /9.366 gallons = 67.6 MPG.
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  18. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Did you click at various points along your route? I usually click at junctions and bends to get it more accurate.

    Finally updated my numbers from going home from work before 2 weeks on vacation in Guernsey!

    Going home on last day before holiday, very hot 98°F - used a bit of A/C ;), cross/tailwind SW6:
    44.4 / 20.8

    Took youngest for an activity day and I went for a bike ride:
    48.4 / 24.3 - drop off, 76°F
    49.6 / 25.1 - back home 5 hours later (different route to avoid traffic), 75°F

    On holiday - to East Midlands Airport Meet and Greet parking, 63°F, light rain, crosswind W7:
    47.9 / 49.2

    I've calculated what the parking people used - to be expected! :
    24.9 / 1.8
    26.6 / 1.6

    I'd hired a bike and managed 212 miles around the island and we walked over 60 miles over the 2 weeks :)

    Back Home Saturday evening, 63°F, cross/tailwind WSW13:
    56.3 / 48.4 :D

    Calculated 50.1mpg for the whole 101 mile trip including parking.

    Tank down 1.1 at 49.7 (FCD 52.4) / 319.2 / Range 385 . Guess gauge F__««|««««E . UG down 2.9 at 49.9 / DTE 355

    Lost 1st pip (of 8) @ 180 miles
    Not sure when 2nd pip went so I'll guess @ 275 miles :rolleyes:

    Car pooler's mother-in-law has passed away so it's his turn to drive this week.
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  19. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    59 mpg home last night in the heat
    63.5 this morning in heavy rain, a welcome change from the recent dusty summer.

    Tank is up to 54.4 / 158 mi and right on F.
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  20. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 66 deg F in Naperville , 63 in Wood Dale , and 65 in Toronto.
    35.0 miles , 63.0 MPG. Tank is at 121.0 miles , 66.0 MPG.
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