2019 US Mazda3 Pricing Announced

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  1. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Mazda announced pricing for the Mazda3 today for the US models:
    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2019-mazda3-sedan-hatchback-pricing/

    Note that you have to spend $27.5k to get a manual! Also, these prices are just the NA 2.5L Skyactive G. The Skyactiv-X doesn't go on sale in the US till late in the year. To say I'm disappointed is a huge understatement.
     

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  2. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Man, that sucks.( I know you’ve been watching this for some time)
    Especially when the 2018 Mazda 3 sport (6mt 2.0) MSRP was 18,095.

    / I guess Honda’s not much better. Squashed the 6 MT EX-T for 2019 as well.
     
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  3. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Has Honda dropped the 6MT for the Civic LX hatch as well? I don't see it listed on their website. Boo! Maybe I could still get a 2018 LX with a 6MT. I sure couldn't get one when I tried before, though.

    The more I think about it, the more I believe that mazdausa have lost their minds. They're counting on styling, and styling alone, to sell the mazda3 at a much higher price. It's a much worse car than the 2018, as far as the chassis goes, because of the severely downgraded rear suspension--from multipoint (past wishbone) all the way down to semi-independent torsion-beam; and this without the skyactiv-x engine. Also, all three trim levels of the 2018 mazda3 offer the 6MT. They're smoking crack.
     
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  4. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    I don’t think the LX 2.0 6mt hatchback is available in the US anymore ... it might still be in Canada(if you wanted to jump through the hoops to get it imported) — not sure, but that’s in the conversations at CivicX.

    ‘They’ say You can get a 1.5 6mt hatchback in the (new for 19) Sport trim (below an Si)
     
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  5. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Yeah, if you look at the Honda Canada website you can get a 2019 2.0 6MT hatchback LX coupe for 23,876.00 CA( I think that includes delivery).

    Exchange rate today would put it at $17912.49 US.

    I looked at doing this a couple years ago on a Sedan — thinking I would fly up, buy and drive back. Got as far as a little bit of online research and talking to a dealership in Regina (?) I think (they sounded ‘normal’ in a good way (for lack of a better term) and were willing to work with me. But I really wanted the 1.5t and decided to wait.

    There are some costs ( import fees etc... can’t remember now) ... but they didn’t look like a deal killer to me. It is done occasionally and you can find forum conversations about importing a car from Canada.

    /warranty work might be another concern — but hey, it’s a Honda!
     
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  6. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    The civic sport has the manual but also the wide tires and a bunch of other stuff I don't want for more money. No thanks. The 2018 Civic LX 6MT should have been available in the US in theory, but in practice, it wasn't. Now I'm thinking used 2018 civic hatch lx with 6mt if I can find one or used 2017 or 2018 mazda3 with 6mt. That's if I had to buy today which I don't.

    I don't think US honda would be the slightest bit compelled to honor the warranty of a canadian civic.
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jay:

    The EPA mpg and passenger/cargo volumes on the all-new 2019 Mazda3 with the 2.5L SKYACTIV-G are pretty bad compared to competitors. :(

    2019 Mazda3 Hatch

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    2019 MAZDA3 SEDAN EPA City/Hwy/Combined (mpg)

    FWD 6AT - 26/35/30 mpg
    FWD (Premium package w/ cyl. deactivation) - 27/36/30 mpg
    i-ACTIV AWD 6AT - 25/33/28 mpg

    MAZDA3 HATCH EPA City/Hwy/Combined (mpg)

    FWD 6MT - 25/35/29 mpg
    FWD 6AT - 26/35/30 mpg
    i-ACTIV AWD 6AT - 24/32/27 mpg

    The passenger and cargo volume are tight compared to competitors as well.

    EPA Passenger Volume w/o Moonroof (cubic feet)
    Sedan/Hatch: 92.8/92.7

    EPA Cargo Volume (cubic feet)
    Sedan/Hatch: 13.2/20.1

    Given the strange rear haunches and hatch proportions out back plus long hood without feature lines, I can only guess that demand will see it camped on dealership lots without a significant reduction in price. I do hope the SKYACTIV-X bares fruit but that sky high RPM and induced NVH make that a scary prop on paper.

    Wayne
     
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  8. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Yeah , but they do have the "zoom-zoom" thing going for them. Remember how Pontiac "Builds Excitement" ? People bought into that crap for many decades.
    I do like Mazdas , but right now they aren't making a car that I would buy.
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Edwin:
    So true. I still like the looks of the CX-5 but what CUV does not look like the CX-5? The new Mazda3 is just not an attractive car anymore. Even the previous gen hatch was getting the odd rear end and this new one looks like something GM had their hands on it back in the 70s and early 80s. I am trying to remember the Chevrolet/Pontiac name for that car with the long all-metal falling sweep into the rear quarter. Starfire maybe?

    The long nose is not helping matters either.

    The 2015 Mazda3 GT in hatch form had strange proportions but still had an attractive rear window edge. The new 2019 does not look that good from any angle other than head on.

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    Wayne
     
  10. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    An Impreza hatch would easily win a beauty contest against a 3 hatch. AND , it almostalmostalmost looks
    like a STATION WAGON.
     
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  11. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    I love the styling of the new generation Mazda3. They hit it out of the park in that category. I've read some reviews of how the new gen drives and the reviews are mostly very positive; esp in regard to NVH. That was one weakness of the mazda3. The other main weakness was interior space compared to competitors. The hatch cargo capacity was particularly small compared to the new Civic hatch. The hated torsion beam rear suspension should have made more room available in the new hatch but no. The new hatch capacity is even smaller than the outgoing model! As Wayne points out, the FE is a fail and the pricing is a FAIL, and I completely agree that the new model will sit on dealer lots unloved and unsold till mazdausa gives up their fantasy of "moving upscale". Mazda is even waffling again on skyactiv-x availability. Originally promised last fall and then again in the spring of this year; the engine is a no-show worldwide. The new promise is: soon for everyone but USA.

    Sigh.
     
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