2020 Toyota Corolla Goes Hybrid!

Discussion in 'In the News' started by xcel, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    “Are you talking about the more efficient shape of a sedan...”

    That’s part of what I’m saying.

    C&D said
    You'd only think it's pretty if you were an air molecule.”

    The other part is that a lot of the Oriental overstyled excess cuts and swoops (nose,side, tail) weren’t really doing anything extra for the mpg.

    Having said that, the Corolla Hybrid does have a somewhat (aero but) unconventional nose... (arguably) better concealed in styling.

    I also think that if we were to compare “shadowed out” profiles on the two cars... they would be pretty close. (I am curious to know what the ‘trunk’ lid to diffuser measurement is on one vs the other(ie what’s the boat tail factor))

    /on the prius eco,.. my understanding is the higher hwy mpg is due to:
    1. Tires/increased tire pressure
    2. Lower weight
    3. Aero — no rear wiper
     
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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    More than 46 million Toyota Corollas have been sold globally since its intro in 1966...

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    The 12th-gen Toyota Corolla made its arrival in three chapters: the all-new Corolla hatch arrived last summer, and then came the current best-selling Corolla body style, the sedan, in two waves – a reveal of the new gas model and the introduction of the U.S.’ first Corolla Hybrid at the LA Auto Show.

    The 2020 Corolla sedan rides on the same 106.3-inch wheelbase with a wider front (+0.47 in.) and rear (+0.87 in.) track. The front overhang was shortened by 1.3 in., the rear was extended by more than half an inch. Height was reduced 0.8 in., and the hood lowered 1.4 in. EPA passenger and cargo volume of 88.6 cu. ft. and 13.1 cu. ft. respectively are both B-Segment sized volumes.

    At the center of the instrument panel sits a high-resolution 8-inch multimedia touchscreen on all grades except the L grade, which receives a 7-inch multimedia touchscreen.

    From behind the wheel, the 2020 Corolla sedan the driver’s hip point is 0.91-in. lower and 1.57-in. rearward.

    The front seats of the SE and XSE grades debut a new design featuring a unique shape with a headrest that nestles into the shoulder area, while the LE and XLE grades offer a seatback with a new U-shaped pattern. The front and rear seat bottom cushions are still way to short, the telescopic wheel does not extend nearly far enough, and the front driver seat track is still lacking in further movement rearward for taller drivers. :(

    The new Corolla sedan’s fully redesigned A/C system is more compact and efficient. A new twin-layer recirculation/fresh air induction unit was added. In cold climates, it will automatically send dehumidified fresh air to the upper cabin to reduce glass fogging while promoting re circulation of warm cabin air in lower areas.

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    2020 Toyota Corolla Infotainment

    The standard multimedia system includes six speakers; Apple CarPlay, Amazon Alexa, and Scout GPS Link compatibility; hands-free phone capability with voice recognition and music streaming via Bluetooth wireless technology; customizable home screen settings along with connected services such as Safety Connect and Wi-Fi Connect Powered by Verizon. Notice the lack of Android Autp once again. A glaring omission and a non-starter for many,

    The LE, LE Hybrid, SE, XLE and XSE trims receive the 8-inch touch screen and 2 USB ports standard.

    Audio Plus, standard on XSE, XLE and optional on SE CVT, adds SiriusXM Radio, Service Connect, and Remote Connect.

    Premium Audio is optional on XSE and XLE. The package includes a JBL nine-speaker, 800-watt system with Clari-Fi; Dynamic Voice Recognition; Dynamic Navigation; Dynamic Points of Interest Search; and Destination Assist Connect.

    2020 Toyota Corolla Drivetrain(s)

    The 2020 Corolla sedan L, LE, and XLE grades will use the same 1.8L I4 found in the previous gen, yet with more horsepower (169 hp), more torque (151 lb-ft), and better fuel efficiency. The SE and XSE grades are powered by a completely-new direct-injected (multi-port as well via D4S) 2.0L I4 with 169 hp and 151 lb-ft of torque with a thermodynamic efficiency of 40 percent.

    The Hybrid drivetrain combines the 4th gen Prius' 1.8L I4 and two motor/generators through an electronically controlled planetary-type continuously variable transmission (CVT) transaxle with the same combined system output of 121 hp.

    A Ni-MH traction battery is located under the rear seat allowing a 60/40 split folding rear seatback to maintain cargo cap.

    The Corolla Hybrid also received the exhaust heat recirculation system that allows the hybrid system to stop the gas engine sooner during warmup. A PTC (Positive Temperature Coefficient) heater provides cabin heat electrically in cold temperatures.

    LE Hybrid - 53/52/52 mpgUS City/Highway/Combined <-- Segment leading and excellent!!!
    L and LE - 30/38/33 mpgUS City/Highway/Combined <-- Not Good
    XLE - 29/37/32 mpgUS City/Highway/Combined <-- Not Good
    SE CVT - 31/40/34 mpgUS City/Highway/Combined <-- Barely Acceptable
    XSE - 31/38/34 mpgUS City/Highway/Combined <-- Not Good

    2020 Toyota Corolla Safety

    All 2020 Toyota Corolla sedans are equipped standard with Toyota Safety Sense 2.0 which includes the following:
    • PCS (Pre-Collision System): Uses both a millimeter wave radar sensor and a forward-facing camera sensor for detection of a vehicle or pedestrian or bicyclist in front of the vehicle. If the PCS determines there is a high probability of a collision, or if it deems a collision is unavoidable, the system is designed to automatically activate the brakes to help avoid the collision entirely or mitigate the impact force.
    • DRCC (Dynamic Radar Cruise Control): Designed for highway use, has a vehicle-to-vehicle distance control mode that utilizes a millimeter wave radar sensor and camera sensor to maintain a pre-set following distance from the preceding vehicle. The Full-speed DRCC version, available on CVT models, is also capable of low-speed following, including stop-and-go traffic that may occur on the highway. The Corolla sedan is designed to stop when the vehicle ahead comes to a stop, maintaining an appropriate distance to it.
    • LDA (Lane Departure Alert) with Steer Assist: Provides the driver with audible and visual warnings (vehicle positioning warning image shown in the Multi-Information Display) and, if necessary, is designed to provide steering assistance to help the driver stay in their lane if the system determines the possibility of deviation from the driving lane. It is also designed to detect vehicle sway (excess weaving within the driving lane) that might indicate driver distraction, inattention or drowsiness.
    • LTA (Lane Tracing Assist): LTA, available on CVT-equipped models, is enabled when LDA and DRCC are both on and active. LTA employs a lane centering function that is designed to make constant steering inputs to help the driver keep the vehicle in the center of its lane. LTA is designed for uses on relatively straight highways to preemptively avoid unwanted lane departures and reduce driver fatigue.
    • AHB (Automatic High Beams): When enabled, the AHB system uses an in-vehicle camera to help detect the headlights of oncoming vehicles and taillights of preceding vehicles, then automatically switches between high and low beams as appropriate.
    • RSA (Road Sign Assist): Designed to recognize Speed Limit, Stop, Yield, and Do Not Enter signs and display them on the vehicles’ MID to help assist the driver.
    • Blind Spot Monitor is a standard or optional convenience feature, depending on model grade. When a vehicle in an adjacent lane is detected, the system is designed to alert the driver using indicators on the outside mirrors.
    • Brake Hold, when engaged, is a convenient technology that helps reduce driver workload while waiting at a traffic light or while driving in traffic. When the driver depresses the accelerator pedal.
    Missing is rear cross traffic alert for some odd reason?

    The 2020 Toyota Corolla LE Hybrid starts at $22,950 + $930 D&H.

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    Highlights: The wonderful efficiency of the 4th gen Prius drivetrain without the polarizing Prius liftback design.

    Lowlights: Price, size, efficiency of non-hybrid drivetrain models, no Android Auto, extremely poor ergonomics continuing to plague the entire Corolla lineup, and the loss of the less expensive Prius c. :(
     
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  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    12th Gen Corolla Rolling Off the Line at Toyota Mississippi

    Toyota’s stunning all-new 2020 Corolla calls Mississippi home.

    2020 Toyota Corolla Hybrid

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    A solid 53/52/52 mpgUS city/highway/combined. Nobody does it better.​

    More than 2,000 people come together each day in Blue Springs, MS to build the world’s most popular compact sedan for customers across the Americas and the Caribbean.

    For over 50 years, Corolla has been synonymous with dependability, fuel efficiency, and value. With the brands Toyota New Global Architecture (TNGA) platform underpinning the all-new Corolla and the Prius’ world class efficiency under the hood, they have something pretty special.

    Toyota announced in April 2018 that it would invest $170 million in its Mississippi plant to build the 12th-generation Corolla using TNGA.

    From an engine that produces more power, to greater agility, to Toyota Safety Sense 2.0 standard on all Corolla sedans, TNGA showcases a spectacular product in the 2020 Corolla.

    The Toyota Corolla remains the world’s best-selling nameplate with more than 46 million vehicles sold globally since its introduction in 1966.

    Wayne
     
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  4. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Hey , that "polarizing" liftback design will easily swallow a mountain bike without disassembly.
    But that stuff ( styling ) is important to lots of folks.
    This is a bold move for Toyota. But I think it makes a lot of sense.
    I just wonder how much it will cut into Prius sales.
     
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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Think about how many different names Chevrolet's small car has had since 1966. I might
    need to take off my shoes to count 'em all. I think we know the reason why. Consumer Reports.
     
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  6. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    And various other large objects that would be hopeless for a Corolla. What's the point of a hybrid Corolla if you're going to be saddled with that antiquated, impractical body configuration?
     
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  7. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Toyota missed on the price.

    "The 2020 Toyota Corolla LE Hybrid (combined 52 mpg) starts at $22,950 + $930 D&H"... The Honda Insight LX (also a combined 52 mpg) is $22,930 + $920 D&H --- way more car for the same money. I don't know why anyone would buy the Corolla hybrid over the Honda.

    /Corolla 121hp/120ft-lb tq (?), Insight 151 hp/197 ft-lb tq ..... and the list goes on....
    //anyway, .. I guess it's good to have choices
     
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  8. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    The only possible extra the Corolla might give the buyer in the included price is the Toyota Safety Sense 2.0 versus whatever Honda calls theirs.
     
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  9. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    .. perhaps. Toyota's ACC is nice. The Insight does have ACC with low speed follow, .. but I don't know how well it works vs. Toyota. Some of the first versions of Honda's system had been reported as sub-par. I don't know if they've improved.
     
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  10. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    I don't think that is part of Toyota Safety Sense on any model. The Prius got it standard by way of a zero cost package back when the Ioniq arrived. I now see it is not available on the L Eco.

    The Prius c was too expensive for the US market. New car buyers of that segment are looking for something under $20k. Those that want the efficiency can find a Prius for not much more. The c faced the same issues as the Insight 2 when it arrived. I don't expect a Yaris hybrid here for the same reasons, but we might get a Toyota Mazda2 hatchback.

    The point is the Sport Wagon hybrid that Europe, and likely other markets, is getting. It's built on the same platform as the sedan; the hatchback has a shorter wheelbase, likely the C-HR platform.

    The Corolla sedan is replacing the Avensis in Europe; the wagon, the Auris. We won't see the wagon because of the Rav4.
     
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  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Probably dead on arrival as the LE trim is stripped and it "AINT" cheap.

    The Corolla Hybrid's drivetrain is by far the best overall in the business. It will take down both the Insight and the Ioniq in the city and can topple the Insight on the highway. It does this with far less drivetrain commotion vs the high speed drone of the Insight in particular. The Ioniq Blue and SEL wins on the super slab.

    The Corolla LED headlamps, AHB, and RCC in particular are a generation better than the Honda and slightly smoother - RCC - than the Ioniq as well.

    Ride comfort and convenience features goes to the Ioniq by a long shot. Android Auto works better than the Insight and is not even available on he Corolla. Seating ergonomics is better than the Insight and three generations ahead of the Corolla. Backlit switches everywhere on the Ioniq are nice as well.

    Interior material quality? Insight Touring wins easily over the Corolla with the Ioniq a generation or two behind. Ioniq's low cost soft plastic up front surrounding everything is pretty cheap looking.

    Price... Ioniq SELs can be picked up for under $23k nowadays. That includes Insight Touring level equipment minus the sunroof and leather. The stripped Corolla at $23k+ is a non-starter imho.

    All in, if I had to buy today, I would take the Ioniq.

    If I had my wishes, I would take the Ioniq interior ergonomic layout, infotainment, RCTA, highway efficiency, and price, the Insight's interior material quality and exterior appearance, and the Corolla Hybrid's drivetrain, city efficiency, LEDs, and RCC. That car does not exist today unfortunately. :(

    Wayne
     
  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Canada will be receiving the Corolla Hybrid as well...

    Toyota at The Quebec City International Auto Show

    The all-new 2020 Toyota Corolla sedan, the first Corolla in Canada to benefit from the Toyota New Global Architecture, was on display at this years Quebec City International Auto Show. The 2020 Corolla sedan will introduce Canadians to an even larger choice of powertrains – including the first hybrid Corolla in Canada.

    Wayne
     
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  13. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    Just saw on Toyota's UK sight that the Corolla Hatchback will also have a hybrid option there.
     
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  14. SI_Prius

    SI_Prius Well-Known Member

    Yes, Europe has:
    - Sedan with 1.8 Hybrid or 1.6 valvematic (MT or CVT)
    - Hatchback with 1.8 Hybrid, 2.0 Hybrid and 1.2 turbo (MT or CVT)
    - Touring Sport with 1.8 Hybrid, 2.0 Hybrid and 1.2 turbo (MT or CVT)

    Toyota hybrid sales increased 18% last year, with the fresh introduction of Corolla, RAV4 and Camry hybrid I expect even higher increase this year.

    And in 2020 there will be new Yaris hybrid, currently the best selling hybrid model in Europe.
     
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