Study finds ride-hailing increases vehicle miles travelled -- substantially

Discussion in 'Commerical Transportation' started by Carcus, Sep 30, 2018.

  1. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    "Ride-hailing accounts for an 83 percent increase in the miles cars travel for ride-hailing passengers...."

    "...There is decrease in overall transportation efficiency due to more car miles on the road, often traveling without passengers. For every 100 miles carrying passengers, Uber and Lyft drivers travel an additional 69 miles without a passenger, conservatively...."

    /Uber/Lyft (and the evolution to autonomous?) -- way better than taxis (imo) , .. but -- as a complete substitute for individual transportation -- may have a downside.
    //just one study -- but the complete opposite of reduced VMT that we've heard up to this point
    ///maybe Wayne has some insight here...
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  2. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    But I heard it would be all rainbows and unicorns! :rolleyes:

    My car travels only as far as I need to travel. Unless the Uber is my personal chauffer and sits there waiting for me all day, of course it'll have to travel more before and after I'm on board.
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  3. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    I like to think that a ride-hailing society would benefit from having more right-sized vehicles do the transporting. For example, Americans buy pick ups because that vehicle has the highest overall utility. They may need the hauling capability only 5% of the time but they buy the pick up anyway because when they want to haul they want to haul. 95% of the time, the bed is empty or a trash barge. Ride hailing offers the flexibility of ordering a car for that ride to the airport or a pick-up for that Home Depot plywood sale.
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  4. Elixer

    Elixer Well-Known Member

    My question is: what is fundamentally different here from Taxis?

    My use of Uber consists of rides to the airport, nights out to the bars, travelling downtown in large cities (often cheaper than parking), and visiting other cities without a car rental. In my early twenties, we would just call taxis to do all of this. There's been a lot of shift from Taxis to Ubers. My miles traveled per year in an Uber is probably 1-2 percent. I think the number of users who use it for replacement of their day-to-day transportation are rare, except for perhaps in centers of very large cities, where it's cheaper than a car due to the high cost of parking.

    One thing I will say is that I believe Uber has reduced the number of drunken drivers on the road by being so convenient and easy to use.
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  5. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    The short answer is 'smartphones'.

    The whole "connectivity-computer age" thing has allowed a sort of 'independent contractor -- crowd-sourced' service that wasn't possible before.. In a lot of ways, it's tough/impossible for the old taxi-service business model (i.e. cars, garage, office, full time drivers, full time dispatchers) to compete.
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