China is building coal fired power plants like mad

Discussion in 'Emissions' started by Carcus, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Go to "Global Coal Plant tracker"

    https://endcoal.org/tracker/

    -look at China
    -scroll in
    -look for "shelved" (blue coded) power plants
    -click on the dot, then the individual dot, then zoom in (a satellite view will come up)

    Lots of these plants do not look shelved, they look like they are complete/ nearly complete
    /if you waste an hour or so looking around on the map it might give a little perspective on the plans that china has -- including jingjinji --- a planned city of 120 million people (6x NYC), the size of Kansas (the state of Kansas!) -- they're going to need all the coal, all the natural gas, all the wind, all the solar, all the nuclear and all the oil the world can muster.

     
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  2. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    China to add 259 GW of coal capacity, satellite imagery shows

    By analyzing SATELLITE IMAGERY, research group, Coalswarm has found that coal-fired power stations in China totaling 259 GW, which were supposed to have been scrapped, are being built. When fully commissioned, they will reportedly represent the EQUIVALENT OF TOTAL COAL-FIRED CAPACITY IN THE UNITED STATES. Not only does this news go against China’s current push into renewables, but also raises serious air pollution concerns at a time when levels should be decreasing.”
    https://www.pv-magazine.com/2018/09/27/china-to-add-259-gw-of-coal-capacity-satellite-imagery-shows/

    related:
    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-c...-over-3-years-as-mines-start-up-idUKKCN1PF0DI
     
  3. litesong

    litesong litesong

    As I have stated 15(?) years ago, communist china (always small letters) plans were for 1000 coal-fired power plants, plans which they are bumpingly exceeding. "Carcass" continues the vision of the communist chinese (always small letters), to justify the yearly multi-million Chinese citizen deaths due to coal, air, land & water pollutions, needed to accomplish the uncaring communist chinese(always small letters) "view from the top".
     
  4. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    .... and the "zero emissions" issue isn't a problem in just China ...really anywhere where the grid has a significant mix of non-renewables supplying the power --- which is basically everywhere

    /I have been saying for some time that efficient cng transitioning to efficient bio-methane makes a lot of sense to me... something in the nature of Audi's g-tron -- but it won't be cheap.



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    https://notrickszone.com/2019/04/23...ic-vehicles-not-a-panacea-for-climate-change/
     
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  5. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    China's an interesting place. Through sources like ADVChina and others, I think it's likely that China's newfound sympathy to environmental issues goes only as far as

    A) the Party members can profit
    B) they can easily pick more low-hanging by fruit for good PR, an
    C) they can promote more aggressive and often unrestrained growth.

    Even if China cleaned up its energy policy, China is a weird example of a nominally communist country that's still sort of a Wild West where development is concerned. Chinese culture isn't sometimes oriented towards what we in the West would call cleanliness or quality. If it sounds like I am calling out the Chinese, yeah I am. There's a lot to like there, from a rich culture to beautiful scenery, a variety of landscapes, and people who on an individual basis will welcome you, but from an environmental standpoint, there's a lot more wrong than just the government and what it feels it can hide or get away with.
     

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