Live from NY, It's the 2019 Nissan Altima!

Discussion in 'In the News' started by xcel, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] Yet another mainstream NYIAS intro.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – March 29, 2017


    Nissan introduced their all-new Altima with new styling, interior, two new powerplants, and for the first time, an AWD variant will be offered.

    The all-new 6th gen Altima includes ProPILOT Assist as highlighted in the 2018 Rogue from last fall’s TAWA Truck Rodeo will be standard on the 2019 Altima SV, SL and Platinum trims.

    The 2019 Altima also includes Rear Automatic Braking, which helps the driver detect stationary objects when backing up, and if necessary applies the brakes to help avoid a collision. The addition of Rear Automatic Braking to Nissan Safety Shield creates Safety Shield 360, which provides front, side and rear safety monitoring and intervention technologies – including Automatic Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Detection, Rear Automatic Braking, Lane Departure Warning (LDW), radar-based Blind Spot Warning (BSW), Rear Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA) and High Beam Assist (HBA).

    2019 Nissan Altima Drivetrain(s)

    Two new engines replace the previous-gen Altima's 3.5L V6 as the company's world's first production-ready variable compression turbo I4. The compression ratio varies between 8:1 (for high performance) and 14:1 (for high efficiency) – with an advanced multi-link system continuously raising or lowering the pistons' reach to transform the compression ratio.

    The direct injected 2.5L I4 is rated at 188 hp and 180 lb-ft of torque while providing lower noise, vibration and harshness, and improved fuel economy. Nissan was very quiet on the final efficiency results.

    For the first time, the 2019 Altima can be equipped with All-Wheel Drive on all trim levels equipped with the 2.5L I4.

    The all-new Altima is 1.1 inches lower in height, 1.0 inches longer in length and 0.9 inches wider, plus is has a 1.9-inch longer wheelbase. It can be equipped with efficiency robbing 19” alloys and tires with 16s. 17s, and 18s standard on the carious trims. Inside, the interior features a wide "gliding wing" instrument panel.

    Key interior comfort and convenience features range from seats with added bolstering for improved holding and support – I am not sure this addition is an advance???, to standard NissanConnect featuring Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, and an 8” multi-touch color display.

    The 2019 Altima will be offered in S, SR, SV, SL and Platinum trims. All five come equipped with the standard 2.5L I4 with the optional AWD system. The SR and Platinum are available with the advanced 2.0L VC-Turbo engine (front-wheel drive only). The Platinum trim VC-Turbo will be offered in limited quantities and open for reservations in early summer 2018 (U.S. market only).

    An efficient Altima gets even better with improved exterior/interior appearance, vastly improved infotainment, safety, and more importantly, improved efficiency. The 2019 Altima will reach Nissan dealerships nationwide this fall.
     
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  2. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Fortunately unlike latest models from Toyota/Lexus they offer Android auto. Is 'Android Auto' market share really that low that Toyota/Lexus offers now only 1 choice? Or cost cutting measure...
    The interior looks a lot like Honda surprisingly. Not unique unfortunately. But exterior is I think lot more interesting.

    I wonder if we see a hybrid midsize model again from Nissan.
     
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  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I was not able to hear the video ( no speakers here at work ) , but it sounds like only one new engine. Is the 2.5 the turbo four ? Is there another one you didn't mention ,Wayne ?
     
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Edwin:

    The Altima has a 2.5L 4 and 3.5L 6 but the new model uses a revised 4 and 6 with more power and efficiency. I sent a note to Nissan PR and was told the EPA will be released closer to launch.

    Wayne
     
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    2019 Nissan Altima Edition ONE

    Nissan announced that reservations will begin on June 15 for the Altima Edition ONE, a limited production launch edition of the all-new 2019 Nissan Altima, along with all other 2019 Altima models. The sixth generation of Nissan's best-selling sedan goes on sale this fall at Nissan dealers nationwide.

    2019 Nissan Altima First Look


    From the MAMA Spring Rally at Road America in Elkhart Lake, WI.​

    The Edition ONE includes 19-inch dark gray alloys, rear spoiler, external ground lighting, illuminated kick plates and Edition ONE badging and floormats. Buyers will have access to the new Edition ONE Nissan Concierge that features 24/7 live assistant access that can be reached in-vehicle or through compatible smart phone, smart watch or smart speaker apps. The service is no-charge for the first three years of Edition ONE ownership.

    The Edition ONE is based on the top-of-the-line Altima Platinum VC-Turbo, which includes leather, Bose audio, moonroof, the variable compression turbocharged 2.0L I4 and ProPILOT Assist, an advanced single-lane "hands-on" driving assistance technology. It will be available in just three exterior colors – Scarlet Ember, Pearl White and Super Black.

    The Edition ONE reservation program also offers participants a choice of premium gift selections (redeemable seven days after vehicle purchase) – including a choice of an Amazon Echo Show plus Amazon Prime membership, a Bose Soundlink Revolve+ plus an Amazon Echo Dot and Amazon Prime membership, or a Series 3 Apple Watch.

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    Reservations and gift selections include the choice of an Amazon Echo Spot, Bose Soundlink Revolve plus Amazon Echo Dot, or wireless Apple AirPod headphones.

    Wayne
     
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The first drive of the 2019 Nissan Altima with the 2.0L dual compression ratio I4 turbo at this years Midwest Automobile Media Association (#MAMA) Fall Rally proved to be very average on this 10-mile drive loop.

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    The Dual Compression turbo feels like a whole new 2-speed transmission attached to a transmission as it moves from high to low compression modes. Seamless but a little disconcerting. Like you are going through a std. transmission shift with the slight transition but no change in speed or acceleration.

    These results were on a suburban drive loop with a ton of stop signs, rail road tracks, a 20-minute freight engine crossing in which I shut it down, and a 100+ ft climb and descent near the launch.

    I am not sold on this one just yet. When we can do a longer drive sometime, it should prove or disprove itself vs the rest of the non-hybrid mid-size offerings. I would give the std. Camry with that fantastic 2.5L the edge here but I still have hopes as I like the Altima's looks.

    Wayne
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Nissan Altima's 2.0L VC-Turbo - "Wards 10 Best Engines & Propulsion Systems" for 2020

    Hi All:

    Nissan's turbocharged variable-compression I4 engine was an industry-first production technology to achieve high levels of power and efficiency from the same engine. Monitoring driver inputs several times per second, the engine adjusts the compression ratio from 8:1 to 14:1 as needed, providing a peak 248 hp and 273 lb-ft of torque plus some efficiency.

    2019/2020 Nissan Altima

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    The range in capability is derived using a multi-link system that adjusts the length of the piston's stroke, while adjusting the engine's compression ratio on the fly. When the driver demands power, an internal actuator reduces the throw of the connecting rods allowing compression to drop, while tapping the turbocharger for maximum output. Conversely, during highway cruising and other low-power needs, the engine automatically adjusts to a higher compression ratio, offering a significantly higher level of efficiency.

    Winners are evaluated based on several factors including horsepower, torque, noise, fuel economy, comparative specifications and applications of new technology. This year, the judges began testing from a group of 26 all-new or vastly improved engines, by putting them through the paces of daily life – commuting, road trips and running errands. To be eligible, a vehicle's base price may not exceed $65,000.

    Unfortunately, the VC tech did not improve efficiency as the SR/Platinum trimmed Altima with the normally aspirated 188 hp and 180 lb-ft of torque 2.5L provides owners with a 27/37/31 mpg city/highway/combined rating whereas the 2.0L VC Turbo is rated at 25/34/29 mpg city/highway/combined.

    The 2020 Altima in S/SV/SL trims with the 2.5L 28/39/32 mpg city/highway/combined rating are the trims to own.

    Wayne
     
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  8. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Still , it beats the Accord 2.0 Sport for EPA. And it's apples vs oranges against the Camry 2.5.
    I personally don't need that much performance capability. This might be good tech , but perhaps
    tech that nobody here ( the land of super cheap fuel ) actually asked for.
    Maybe they will have better luck stuffing it into an Infiniti SUV as a standard engine.
    Maybe they already do ; I don't follow SUV/CUV.
     
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  9. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    A question I have in the back of my mind is whether staying out of the power bands in daily driving could yield better results (FE-wise) with the VC turbo versus the naturally aspirated 2.5L?
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Bill:

    I have only driven it just the one time and the results - posted above - did not show me anything I thought was worth requesting one for a week long review at the time. I am still very much interested in the tech as I can see a nice application to a 1.3 or 1.4L but it just did not do much with the 2.0L under the hood of the 2019 Altima.

    Wayne
     
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  11. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Thanks, Wayne. I guess the 2.0L overhead could be too much to overcome. A 2.0L naturally aspirated engine is already overkill for most cars. (thinking about when I had a year in a Crosstrek)
     
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  12. litesong

    litesong litesong

    My Dodge Caliber had a 2.0L engine, developed by Mitsubishi, Hyundai & Dodge. The engine was reliable, & idled quietly & smoothly. Several people were surprised that the engine was running, even when the hood was up. The engine was no great shakes for either power or MPG. However, even in the heavier Caliber with CVT, AND while in the mountains, I needed no more power. So, you are right about "needing" no larger engine than 2.0L.
    Continuing the 2.0L theme, my present manual 2016 Elantra with 1.8L engine has good acceleration & "needs" no extra power, even in 5500 foot mountain passes.
    Let's face it tho. Americans are a "needy" people. ;)
     
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  13. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Agreed, but let's face it. A mid-size sedan or larger would not sell very well with a 1.8L naturally aspirated engine.

    That's an interesting idea...
     
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  14. litesong

    litesong litesong

    If 200 million Americans dropped 70-100 pounds per family, a mid-sized sedan with a 1.8L regular engine would have better performance.:D
     
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  15. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Here in the USA , we have the freedom to be as fat as we want. I think it's in the Bill of Rights
     
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  16. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    No - it's in the preamble to the Constitution: "We the people, in order to form a more perfect oval, eat chocolate frosting and Burger King until we can't breathe"
    Although people have been getting heavier, there are fewer of them in each car, so the total passenger weight is actually less. The six passenger sedan is long gone, and most five passenger sedans don't hold five unless one of them is a Terrier Mix who spends most of the trip licking the other passengers and leaving nose prints on the windows.
    Cars themselves have gained about 800 pounds in the last 30-something years. The early Civics weren't quite 1800 pounds, so 50 horsepower was plenty. Today's Civic is about 1000 pounds heavier, which is roughly four rubenesque* passengers.

    * Rubenesque is a nice way of saying "chunky" and refers to the large-n-lovely shape that results from eating five or more Reubens a day, especially when slathering them in Thousand Island dressing, which is really the only way to enjoy them.
     
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  17. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I felt the most freedom, with my weight down, hiking 25miles, & up & down 5000 foot trails. Now that I am broken down physically, I still love the freedom to ascend to & descend from 5500 foot mountain passes, while getting 40-50MPG.:) Still miss the higher mountain hiking trails tho. For those who still have good health, get out on exquisite hikes..... maybe even off-trail.:):):)
     
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  18. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I am exactly at my "fighting" weight. I don't want to lose an ounce. Hiking in Illinois is...….meh.
    There are a few interesting state parks within 80 miles , but if I go there , I usually have a bike in the car.
     
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  19. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Sure you know Illinois well. Quickly, some interesting areas are Starved Rock State Park, Pere Marquette State Park, Deer Grove Forest Preserve, River Trail Nature Center(short, but with animals), Fox Ridge State Park, Stone Bridge Trail, & Little Grand Canyon. If hikes are too short, walk one way, then the other direction. If you're near any state borders, you can investigate terrain in other states. I love the mountains, but very much enjoyed Minnesota's high point, giving scores of miles of vista views into other states.
    Greatest demonstrated freedom I ever witnessed: Dated a marathoner, who would run miles through the mountains. While on a bicycle on flatter terrain, I paced her on an 8 mile run. Afterwards, she breathed normally & was not tired at all. We hiked a trail afterwards....she, slower than her norm.
     
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  20. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Let's cut them airbags outta the vehicles. Don't need no strong sides. Don't need no strong steel frames to survive frontal crashes (they're just dents in the bumper). Get rid of the science of vehicle crash survival & the equipment needed to accomplish such. Too much science & tech in our VEE-hik-les & too many people on dis dirtball planet. :oops:
     
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