Wayne needs to get a sponsor to do something with motorcycles...

Discussion in 'Street and Performance Bikes' started by 08EscapeHybrid, Jan 8, 2018.

  1. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    So Wayne, when are you going to convince a sponsor to do something with motorcycles? I can think of some really great trips!
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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jay:

    It was below 0 on the East Coast and in the Midwest yesterday. :D

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  3. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    Well, I didn't mean this week...
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  5. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    The BMW G310GS and Honda CB300R are begging for gas mileage validation trips. Neither is for sale yet in the US, though. Soon hopefully.

    I thought it was Wayne's run in with the deer on the Yamaha that put him off such trips.
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  6. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I thought it was an antelope. Close enough, though. I hit a dog while riding my Suzuki GT550 in 1976 ,
    but that didn't stop me from riding for another 30 years.
    But I wasn't hurt and did not go down.
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  7. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I'd like to see the KTM 390 Duke hypermiled. And any Honda with the 670cc under-square engine.
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    2018 Honda CRF250L Rally with ABS

    For the road less traveled…​

    Honda's 2018 250cc on/off-road dual-sport with a liquid-cooled DOHC 249cc single-cylinder four-stroke would be my first choice. ;)

    Its off-road chassis with long-travel 43mm inverted fork and single-shock Pro-Link rear end make for the ultimate weekend adventure seeker while its low total cost of ownership provides a fun filled daily commute during the week.

    2018 Honda CRF250L Rally Engine/Drivetrain Overview

    Efficient 249.6cc single-cylinder four-stroke engine
    Roller rocker arm design for valve train allows for a compact cylinder head
    Engine counterbalancer
    Fuel injection
    38mm throttle body providing a wide powerband
    Compact, two-chamber muffler paired to 38mm exhaust head pipe
    14T/40T final drive <-- I would try and procure a 15/38 set of sprockets ;)

    LED lamps front and rear
    2.7 gal. tank
    Super Motard road tires <-- I would have to add
    Lowered peg extensions for more comfortable over the road ride <-- I would have to add
    Small add-on shield for improved weather protection <-- I would have to add

    2018 Honda CRF250L Rally Chassis/Suspension

    Steel frame
    Inverted 43 mm Showa fork w/ 9.8” of travel <-- Drop the forks in the clamps for a lower ride height
    Pro-Link rear suspension w/ 9.4” of travel <-- Softer spring for a lower ride height
    A 21-inch front and 18-inch rear aluminum alloy wheel(s)
    Front and rear hydraulic w/ Anti-lock Braking System (ABS)
    Long motocross seat <-- A new much thicker and firmly padded seat would need to be added
    Fold-up, frame-mounted passenger foot pegs
    Special cargo hooks
    Digital instrument cluster

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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    And we can start with this! :D

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  10. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    I was thinking it would be cool to do something with Zero Electric motorcycles.
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  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Hey , you pedestrians ! Get off my bridge !
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  12. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    I love Honda's rally bike but it's not quite the right form factor for me. At 244 lbs, it's pretty heavy and my riding is more street oriented. Honda's supermotard version of the crf250L would be ideal but they steadfastly refuse to bring it to the States. The new CB300R is a naked bike based on the same engine stroked out a bit to 286cc and 31hp. Only 315 lbs!

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  13. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    Wait, was that your weight or the bike's? :D

    I'm seeing 322 lbs at the following link:


    Not sure if that's wet or dry, it just said "curb weight"...

    Found another link, but for the 2017:


    curb weight: 317.5 lbs

    I do like the looks of that CB300R, though!
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  14. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    ANY Honda fuel-injected single is probably pretty nice. The dual-purpose bike is probably best for me.
    As tall as it can be and still have my stubby (30") legs barely touch the ground , lol. I did sit on a supermotard
    ( DRZ-400SM ) that I think had a 35" seat height. I could have handled it , but 33" would be better.
    Yet , the seat on my Giant 27.5 is probably a meter off the ground.
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  15. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

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  16. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    You're probably on to something there.

    ABS on a bike must be nice... I've only heard of it on BMWs many years ago. Fuel injection is also nice. I've never had a bike with fuel injection. I never got into carburetor tuning.

    Anything under 400 lbs will feel light to me. I've only had heavier ones. I, too, with my stubby legs would have mount/dismount issues with the off-road bikes. That's why I fit so comfortably in almost any car. :)
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  17. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    I have a 36" inseam and appreciate the taller seat heights and relaxed knee angle of adv bikes and supermotos. I had a Honda VFR 750 for 19 years and another VFR 700 for 7 years before that. As I look back on the bikes, they were absurdly heavy and overpowered for my needs. They were too heavy to maneuver in tight quarters and didn't handle bad city pavement well at all. They were nice on the highway--very smooth and powerful--but even there I rarely cracked the throttle more than 1/4 of the way open. My next bike will be much smaller,lighter, and more upright. I like the CB300R a lot.

    I, too, have never had a bike with ABS or fuel-injection nor have I ever had a thumper.
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  18. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    Mine is fuel injected with a 6 speed transmission. Two of my "Must haves" when I was bike shopping. I wanted something I could just jump on and ride, with a minimum of tinkering. My bike does that quite well. All I've ever had to do to it is brakes, tires, fluid changes, and batteries.
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  19. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    my newest motorcycle was from 1993 and I have not ridden or owned a bike since 2002. Needless to say ,
    no fuel injection or ABS. Carburetors are great for people who like to tinker more than they ride. I don't want to tinker AT ALL.
    I can change the oil , air filters , adjust and lube the chain. Don't want to do more than that.

    I did have a "thumper". Several of them. One was a Suzuki Savage 650 that I got in a trade. It was an early one , with only a 4-speed transmission.
    I loved the torque right off idle (heavy-ish flywheel ) and I liked the belt drive. I told my kids it was "Fred Flintstone's motorcycle".

    Maybe it was.
  20. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    As an inseam-challenged former rider, low seat height is nice. Weight-wise, it's almost irrelevant if it's set low enough. My Nightster at 545lb dry felt lighter and easier to handle or lift off the kickstand than either the Shadow 600 or V-star 650 I also rode, though the V-star came fairly close. All were supposedly within 10lbs of each other. The Harley held the edge in build quality, switchgear, styling cohesion and the feel of its inputs, though at half the power output the Japanese units rightfully held a commanding lead in fuel economy, and both had a FAR better ride quality plus an aftermarket which didn't rip you off. The Shadow was also only a 4-speed, so although it had enough power to be a highway cruiser, it was so wound up that you didn't want to do it for very long.

    Although I've given up riding, I actually wouldn't mind sampling some of the newer Japanese itty bitty bikes.
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