2017 VW e-Golf Range Increases 50%!

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] New chemistry, more power, more range…

    [​IMG]Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – Feb. 23, 2017

    2017 e-Golf – Pricing TBA while EPA rated at 125 miles range and 119 MPGe.

    Yesterday VW announced that is upcoming upgraded 2017e-Golf will provide future owners almost 51 percent more range than the current 2016 model.

    According to the release, the brand upgraded the e-Golf’s Li-Ion traction battery with new chemistry while also upgrading the electric motor for more performance.

    For the 2017 MY, the VW Golf will arrive with a new larger capacity, 35.8 kWh Li-Ion battery, 11.6 kWh larger than the current 2016 VW e-Golf’s 24.2 kWh Li-Ion pack.

    In terms of all-electric range (AER), the 2017 e-Golf’s rated AER of 125 miles is substantially higher than the 2016s 83 miles.

    If the two packs are being controlled within the same upper and lower SoC bands, the 48 percent increase in capacity has allowed a 50.6 percent increase in range. VW did not provide anything related to mass of the new pack but I suspect a small amount of the hatch cargo volume will be consumed with a much thicker pack stowed in the lower recesses of the rear cargo area.

    2017 VW e-Golf

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    In addition, the large 7.2 kW on-board charger is now standard on both the SE and SEL Premium trims allowing a full charge from flat in less than 6-hours. Finding a 7.2 kW charger is not as easy as you would believe.

    The SAE CCS DCFC is still optional on SE and standard on SEL Premium. With it, the pack from flat to full takes less than an hour.

    With the new larger and more efficient pack and motor, efficiency, not just range, has moved upwards as well. The new electric motor is a 134 hp and 214 lb-ft of torque, 19 more hp and 15 lb-ft of torque more than that offered in the current 2016 e-Golf. 0 to 60 is now 9.6 seconds and its top speed is 93 mph vs the current > 10 seconds to 60 mph with a top speed of 87 mph.

    Unfortunately VW stated it is the most efficient BEV Compact Class at 119 MPGe combined. This matches the 2017 Chevrolet Bolt but is far off the mark of the all-new Ioniq Electric at 136 MPGe. The following list tells the story.

    2016 VW e-Golf in Death Valley

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    U.S. Battery Electric Vehicle Efficiency and Range Competitive Comparison
    • 2017 Hyundai Ioniq Electric (118 hp/215 lb-ft. of torque w/ 28.08 kWh pack at 103.7 Wh/kg)
      150/122/136 MPGe city/highway/combined and 124 miles AER

    • 2017 Chevrolet Bolt (200 hp/266 lb-ft. of torque w/ 59.9 kWh pack at 140 Wh/kg)
      128/110/119 MPGe city/highway/combined and 238 miles AER

    • 2017 VW e-Golf (134 hp/214 lb-ft. of torque w/ 41.1 kWh/35.8 kWh usable pack at 104.1 Wh/kg)
      126/111/119 MPGe city/highway/combined and 125 miles AER

    • 2016 VW e-Golf (115 hp/199 lb-ft. of torque w/ 27.2 kWh/24.2 kWh usable pack at 76.1 Wh/kg)
      126/105/116 MPGe city/highway/combined and 83 miles AER

    • 2017 Nissan LEAF (107 hp/187 lb-ft. of torque w/ 29.88 kWh pack at 102 Wh/kg)
      124/101/112 MPGe city/highway/combined and 107 miles AER
    VW stated the 2017 e-Golf pricing and dealership availability will occur sometime this Spring.
     
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  2. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    So the range is acceptable for a city car/daily commuter (but not a road trip car).

    Now we just need the "big 3"
    1. Price
    2. Battery warranty (including specifics on degradation)
    3. Battery replacement cost
     
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  3. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    That battery chemistry is something else! LG Chem? Imagine if all car manufacturers shared the best battery chemistry and only differentiated themselves in the rest of the car design.
     
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  4. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    What EV battery has EVER needed to be replaced altogether? A few early Nissan Leafs, maybe? I think most batteries will last about as long as the engine and/or transmissions on typical ICE's.
     
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  5. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    The first Leafs didn't come out until Dec 2010. So we are just barely into 6 years with the Leaf, ... and less with just about everything else (save Tesla). So we really don't know how the batteries are going to hold up long term. If they are lasting as long as typical ICE engine/transmission, then I think they'd still need to have about 60% to 70% of original capacity (i.e. crappy but useable) at 200,000 miles and/or 20 years.

    add/ If the battery has degraded (in a normal fashion) to the point that the car is unusable (say at year 7, 8, 9,10,11 or whatever), ... is that then covered under a "lifetime" warranty that excludes normal degradation??

    I can already tell you what the OEM will say.
     
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  6. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    Or practically 100% at twice or more that mileage, compared to engines that are designed, manufactured, and maintained properly. That's not likely with any current-technology battery, as far as I know.
     
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  7. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    We know that NiMH batteries in the Prius have lasted ~500K miles with no appreciable loss.
     
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