2017 Hyundai Ioniq HEV Available Now, BEV in April, and PHEV This Fall

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Due to Hurricane Irma, Valdosta, GA was going to close for business!

    But first, the rain had begun...

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    Hurricane Irma's eye was well over 600 miles away at this point.

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    I refueled after stopping by a few Shells in the vicinity of Valdosta, GA just off I-75. If you look closely at the pic above, you will see all pumps at this Shell are shut down with no fuel. I found the same from numerous Shell and non-Shell retailers within a 10 square mile drive loop.

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    Almost the final refuel before heading into Jacksonville. Only regular was available at this Shell.​

    A local McDonald's posted the attached sign saying they are closing due to the recently declared Georgia State of Emergency. When Shell and McDonald's are down or going down, you know I am in a world of hurt. ;)

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    The Hyundai #Ioniq took on $22.20 worth of liquid Gold at the first and only Shell I found with fuel. Her top off brought the grand total to $71.03 after covering 2,491.3 miles while driving this Coast to Coast on a Benjamin challenge scheduled between two major Hurricanes. Ever thread the needle? All the while heading into the forecast damage path of the already infamous #Irma... In all actuality, the Hurricane is over 600-miles away and barely having an influence.

    A full tank, moderate rain, strong winds, and a desire to see what this hurricane stuff is all about in a vehicle with a stated range of 719 miles and the ability to cruise out to 1,100 miles before having to refuel again. Absolutely perfect timing and location to experience what I will surely remember for the rest of my life!

    My flight out of Fort Lauderdale was canceled and my flight out of Atlanta was canceled just moments ago. Maybe Charlotte will be my next destination?

    I love it when a plan comes together, falls apart, and comes together again with help from friends and family across the country. Thanks Mom!
     
  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    As the Ioniq and I headed into Hurricane Irma's clutches, I snapped a few unsteady shots of I-75 Southbound just north of Valdosta, GA - about two-thirds the way between Atlanta and Jacksonville. The Interstate was devoid of essentially everyone ahead and behind. The NB evacuation lanes were empty as well.

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    I received numerous alerts along route to pay heed to this angry storm which I am doing. By driving right into it. Ok, not right into its teeth but into some of its rain bands in Northeast Florida as it is over 500-miles away at that point before turning back northward and placing some distance between it and me later that evening.

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    The Hyundai #Ioniq continues to close in on the Atlantic and she is still holding North of 80 mpg on this still being consumed third tank. This since leaving Coronado, CA on the Pacific Coast 3 days ago with over 2,400 miles placed in the rear view. < $100 of fuel to cross the Continent? The final fill(s) will occur later today and with almost $51 to spend on < 11.9 gallons to top her off, I am calling this challenge a success regardless of the $0.50/gal price hike felt across the country over the past two weeks. ;)



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    Florida Border and its beginning to rain heavier.​

    I stopped at the deserted Florida Welcome Center on I-75 just a mile down from the Border sign. The Center and the entire state which includes Disney World appears to be closed for business due to Hurricane Irma. Imagine that! ;)

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    These two fellow travelers stopped for the night, day, and next night in order not to have to drive into the teeth of the Monster.

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    What a drive and it is nearing its conclusion. :D

    Wayne
     
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  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Hurricane #Irma

    Many Con Ed Utility crews heading into the teeth and soon to be the aftermath of Hurricane Irma's.

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    I am inside the Hyundai #Ioniq pulled over in the maintenance lane on I-10 EB about 60 miles west of Jacksonville.

    Why? To allow this procession of Nashville, TN Emergency First Responders, their vehicles, and equipment heading towards Jacksonville to go by.


    These are amongst the thousands of heroes heading into Hurricane Irma and its aftermath to search, rescue, and help in the recovery efforts.

    God speed to these super men and women.

    The wind and rain are increasingly linearly by the minute and I am completely safe and over 400-miles from the Hurricane at this point.

    Wayne
     
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Now that I am closing in on the final push, let's get the efficiency data uploaded.

    2017 Hyundai Ioniq "Coast to Coast on a Benjamin"

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    The Atlas and a clean, crisp, $100 bill with Benjamin's face staring back. ;)

    From the launch at Tidelands Park in Coronado, CA on the Pacific.

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    The tank is topped off and sealed while the aFCD and Garmin are reset.​

    The first refuel occurred at a Travel America/Shell in Las Cruces, NM.

    2017 Hyundai Ioniq First Refuel Details

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    84.3 mpg indicated. 914.5 miles on 11.233 gal = 81.4 mpg actual on $24.48 in fuel.​

    This indicates the aFCD over reports by 3.5 percent.

    The second refuel occurred at a Shell in Shreveport, LA.

    2017 Hyundai Ioniq Second Refuel Details

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    84.0 mpg indicated. 855.4 miles on 10.454 gal = 81.8 mpg actual on $24.35 in fuel.
    Cumulative: 1,769.9 miles on 21.687 gal = 81.6 mpg actual on $48.83 in fuel​

    The second refuel indicates the aFCD over reports by 2.7 percent and cumulatively by 3.1 percent.

    The third refuel occurred at a Shell in Valdosta, GA.

    2017 Hyundai Ioniq Third Refuel Details

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    81.7 mpg Indicated. 721.4 miles on 9.028 gal = 79.9 mpg actual on $22.20 in fuel.
    Cumulative: 2,491.3 miles on 30.715 gal = 81.1 mpg actual on $71.03 in fuel.​

    The third refuel indicates the aFCD over reports by 2.3 percent and cumulatively by 2.9 percent.

    The fourth and final short refuel occurred in Jacksonville, FL while experiencing strong 50 to 60 mph gusts and heavy rain bands.

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    73.6 mpg indicated. 184.1 miles on 2.436 gal = 75.6 mpg actual on $6.57 in fuel.
    Cumulative: 2,675.4 miles on 33.151 gal = 80.7 mpg on $77.60 in fuel.​

    The fourth and final refuel indicates the aFCD under reports by 2.6 percent but I cut the top off slightly short by ~ .1 gallons as I was trying to keep blowing drops of water out of the filler neck. See the wind rippling the fuel in the top off pic? Ever top off a car in a hurricanes torrential rain? I'm a little wet.;) Cumulatively, the over report would be 2.9 percent.

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    $77.60 in fuel to cross the country with $22.40 left over. :)

    The 2017 Hyundai #Ioniq crossed the country including a 220 mile rescue pup detour and driving an extra 75 miles around Jacksonville looking for an open gas station during the initial phases of Hurricane Irma which is still over 350-miles away.

    The cool factor here is driving around Jacksonville with wind gusts over 60 mph and torrential rain from about 20-miles beyond the Florida border to Jacksonville, FL including 75 miles of inner city that came in at 73.6 mpg. What car beats its EPA let alone blows through 70 mpg during a National Emergency event! Amazing!

    PS: Check out the Waffle House pic including the blowing back palm leaves. It was one of the few establishments open when I drove through. :D

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    Wayne
     
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  5. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

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  6. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    That's great, Wayne! Congratulations. You and Bob got the Niro to achieve 76.6mpg on a similar voyage. 80.7mpg is amazing but I expected that the difference between the two would be greater. If the two had taken the exact same trip do you expect the mileage difference would hold? How about the comfort level between the two? Which would you rather drive long distances?
     
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  7. alster

    alster Well-Known Member

    Wayne, great job, and review of the Ioniq Blue. Looks to me the Ioniq is the number 1 fuel economy champ in the U.S, and one of the lowest prices you can buy a hybrid for. My wife and I next step is to take an Ioniq for a test drive. I wonder if Hyundai will place the Ioniq Blue you drove on display somewhere as the car that went across country and achieved over 80 mpg?

    Thanks again Wayne.
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Mike:

    Jay said that on FB and I was surprised to learn it was more than a myth too!

    "Waffle House ... When the world is going to hell, we are still making waffles." :)

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    "Your house is probably going to blow away but come on down and enjoy some delicious Blueberry waffles!!!" :D :D :D

    Wafflehouse.com is embedded in the pic.

    Wayne
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jay:

    I was driving with A/C on in the Ioniq about 80 percent of the time, traveling a little faster, covering more miles per day, and driving a less efficient route on my own than when Bob and I drove the GWR setting Niro together and used non-ethanol laced fuel the entire way. Just the first tank in the Ioniq. The Niro however was under winter fuel and the temps were not entirely conducive to great efficiency as we made the turn north out of Florida. The Ioniq could have probably pulled 90+ if I was able to complete the drive under GWR rules with a less wide open route and maybe a 400-mile per day schedule vs. the almost 700-mile per day drive schedule I had to complete in order to beat Irma into and out of Jacksonville.

    Comfort wise, I would have to give the more upright Niro the edge from a view out the windscreen, side and rear windows stand point. I would give the Ioniq the edge with regards to its unique renewable seat material. I would like to do a back to back between the two. I do not remember if the Niro's seat bottoms to floor was higher or not. If it was, the Niro gets the edge in that too.

    Wayne
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Alster:

    It is with caveats. Around town its main competitor still has it cornered. Out on the open road, it owns the super slab! And of course it is a much better looking vehicle with absolutely superior ergonomics and infotainment. Its competitor earns kudos for its R&H prowess - never thought I would say that, more advanced std. safety equipment, and best in the industry Radar CC. The Ioniq will not hit the show circuit like the Niro did as it is not a GWR but maybe someday? ;)

    Wayne
     
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  11. Chris12

    Chris12 Well-Known Member

    Hi Wayne,

    This is ridiculously impressive. Can I ask what average speed(s) you were traveling on the trip? Were you using cruise control at all? Also, I noticed you said above that the mpg trip average would have been higher had the drive been broken up into 400-mile days rather than 700-mile days: is this because of driver fatigue on those 700-mile days, or other factors?

    Also, I've seen this complaint about the Ioniq Blue's road noise on several forums and in various car reviews. Does anyone have a sense of the Ioniq Blue's road noise decibel level vs. say the 4th Gen Prius, or the Prius Prime, or the upper trim Ioniqs? I'm trying to gauge just how much louder the Ioniq Blue truly is than other makes/models. I've also read that decibel level isn't necessarily the best way to measure this, that you also have to account for the somewhat more elusive "annoyingness" factor of a car's road noise - one car's noise at 74 decibels can be more annoying than another's at 71 decibels, etc.

    Finally, Alster, I noticed you mentioned that the Ioniq Blue can be purchased for $18-19K. Can I ask where you're seeing it offered for this price? The only Ioniq Blues I can see in that price range (at least on the east coast) are after a combination of a lot of very specific discounts (you have to be an active service member, and a registered Uber driver, and a current Prius owner, and you were affected by one of the hurricanes, and you have a qualifying trade-in, etc.). Any tips you can provide would be much appreciated. Thanks.

    Chris
     
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  12. alster

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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Chris:

    The Blue trim is stripped of insulation to save the 50 lbs. It is noisier than all the Prius' and SEL/Limited trim Ioniqs. Get the SEL with the Tech pkg. Trust me. ;)

    Very little CC as the Blue does not have and cannot be equipped with radar CC.

    No CC and 50ish mph not including all the picture, rest area, break, and food stops. If I could have only completed 400-miles per day, I could have driven state routes with lower speeds, longer glides, and higher efficiency.

    You can find Ioniq's all over the country for great prices. Here is a new 2017 Ioniq SEL for just $18,650 <-- Not verified of course but its a steal if it is that price and the dealer has a 4.6 of 5 * rating on Google. The rest of their Ioniq's appear with only $1.5 to $2k discounts so be careful with this. I have an e-mail sent to them to make sure but finally a great price on an SEL!

    Wayne
     
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  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I just received a call back from the Golden Colorado Hyundai dealership. The (2) marked down Ioniq's have extensive hail damage so those are out. :(

    Wayne
     
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  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    This is always a dilemma...

    The scope of this drive was to cross on the least amount of $s from Coast to Coast so the Shell Regular Unleaded with up 10 percent ethanol was the only choice. If it were a GWR drive however... :D

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    Wayne
     
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  16. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    2.379 for E10, or 2.999 for E0. That means the ethanol costs... NEGATIVE $6.20 per gallon! :mad::eek::rolleyes:o_O
     
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  17. alster

    alster Well-Known Member

    E10 87 octane for $2.399/ gallon is the way to go. E0 87 octane even with a 5% bump in mpg's would still cost you more per mile. Same applies for the higher octane grades which may have no effect for more mpg's. Even though I am against Ethanol in gasoline, here on the coast find one boater who favors E-10 gasoline over pure gasoline with no ethanol, I still use it in both our 2016 Volt and 2010 Prius, 87 Octane (10% Ethanol) and Costco gasoline is my choice as it is the lowest price and I get 4% cash back from my credit card as well.
     
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  18. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Yah, I don't think I could stomach a 62c spread for the EO (on a "normal" drive). I typically pay a 30c premium for E0 ...

    /however ... E0 'could' have pushed the Ioniq's 70 mph steady state above the magical 60 mpg threshold.... and THAT might have been worth it.
     
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  19. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    I think I'd be putting E0 in the Volt, regardless of the price per gallon.
     
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  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    This afternoon I was invited to the Ioniq PHEV intro in Southern Calif. on Wednesday, December 6. Finally, it is nearing consumer release!

    Regarding the Hyundai Ioniq “Coast to Coast on a Benjamin” Social Media Campaign, I would call it a success due to the number of impressions at close to 250,000 -- 200,000+ online and 25,000+ on-the-road respectively. Now if only Hyundai would offer some discounts on the Ioniq lineup. ;)

    The tweets, IG, and FB posts from this drive using #Ioniq hashtag and @Hyundai/@HyundaiUSA link(s) through the afternoon of Nov. 21st, 2017 amounted to the following:

    Twitter (170,696 Impressions, 8,448 Engagements, 5,540 Likes, and 572 Retweets over 16 tweets)
    Instagram (2,634 Likes over 8 posts)
    Facebook (19 posts)
    CleanMPG (41,621 views)
    “Coast to Coast on a Benjamin” Drive Debrief

    2017 Hyundai Ioniq "Coast to Coast on a Benjamin" – Refueling and Efficiency Details
    • 2,675.4 miles on 33.151 gal = 80.7 mpg
    • $77.60 in fuel with $22.40 left over
    Wayne
     
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