2017 Hyundai Ioniq HEV Available Now, BEV in April, and PHEV This Fall

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  1. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    I found out that the Ioniq Electric has coasting by default. This is a good thing, and apparently it is better at coasting than the VW e-Golf.
     
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  2. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    Maybe trouble in paradise - MT falling out of favor with the flying H? I can't imagine any manufacturer other than BMW or Mazda bothering with them, since they pick those models to 'win' any 'comparison'.
    The proving grounds at Calif City are likely rented out. I can't imagine them hosting that crew free of charge. It's a facility just like any other - you want to use it, you pay.
    I have some ideas for an Ioniq drive that wouldn't have to include those guys. If they were to tag along, I fear they'd downplay any CleanMPG results with their "RealMPG" numbers, which are attained with violent control inputs.
     
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  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Chris:

    MT gets free use and they wanted me to counteract their results. Ioniq ideas? Quite a few sent in so far. :)

    Wayne
     
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  4. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    The most useful data to me on this site are the steady-state results. The long range tests are interesting, but I will never achieve those results. The steady-state tests reflect what I could achieve because no special hypermiling skills are necessary, and because most of my driving is highway miles. The steady-state results are useful for comparison--much more so than the cross-country tests; the exception being multiple cars tested at the same time on the same cross-country route with comparably skilled drivers. Nobody should have to do these tests, but the EPAs figures are highly suspect and politically biased, I think. Why knock yourself out to get cross-country test results that most can't practically achieve? Wouldn't it be easier to just grab the steady-state figures?
     
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jay:

    The steady states take 20 to 30 hours to knock out/vehicle including the drive to LA to swap into the new vehicle, top off near LA, drive to San Diego on the most SOB traffic ladened highway in the country, top off again, drive back home, come up with the offsets, post the details, head out into the middle of the night early on Monday mornings - I completed the 17 Corolla LE Eco's between 11:30 pm and 03:15 am this morning, collect data, collate it within my spreadsheets, take screen shots, and post. Of which I might make about $1,000 a year from the site or $0.30/hour. That falls far short of paying even a single month of my real estate tax bill let alone the mortgage, insurance, food, and even the fuel for all of these cars and trucks. I hope you understand that there are not enough ad clicks to make this possible. This is the second event drive to fall through this year and it hurts my financial wherewithal far more than can be imagined. :(

    Wayne
     
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  6. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the insight into the financial side of the site, Wayne. I am grateful for all the work. I used to donate to your site but I haven't seen any donate buttons since you switched to the xenforo platform...
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jay:

    No problem. I will try and come up with something else before the year is out. I will have some face to face time with some Hyundai folks at the Elantra GT and 18 Sonata refresh short lead in San Diego next week and will see about moving the Ioniqs promo bar a bit. Last months Ioniq sales fall off has me very concerned. I suspect Korea is battening down the hatches for a longer period sales slump than most predict which probably does not help either.

    The Ioniq Blue and SEL are still high on my list for a week long review and with the Ioniq cross country drive cancellation, I rescheduled them for hopefully Thursday July 27th through Thursday August 3rd and the second trim for August 10th through August 17th. My fingers are crossed.

    Wayne
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Back on maybe? I received word last night that a 17 Ioniq Blue trim is heading our way sometime between now and Aug. 7th. A long-distance drive is tentatively scheduled for Aug. 21st. I hope this goes off as I just ordered a 2017 Hyundai Ioniq HEV mini-spare and jack kit for $252 yesterday. To date I am out approximately 120 hours for planning, $60 worth of DOT approved fuel containers, and $250 for the mini-spare if it does not fly.

    2017 Hyundai Ioniq mini-spare and jack kit

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    And how about this ascent, descent, and ascent again? ;)

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    San Diego, CA to Tucson, AZ elevation profile in meters ASL and km distance traveled.​

    The I-10's highest elevation occurs about 80 miles east of Tucson near Wilcox at 5,000'. Another SOB of a climb. :)

    Even better news, we should be hearing about the 2018 Hyundai Ioniq PHEV-27 (or more? ;)) pricing and availability in very short order. The Ioniq PHEV arrives with Regenerative Brake Level Control Paddles std. while the SEL and Limited trims with the Tech and Ultimate pkg. respectively will be equipped with Lane Departure Warning (LDW) and Lane Keep Assist (LKAS) for the 2018 MY. LKAS is new for the 2018 MY.

    2018 Hyundai Ioniq PHEV-27

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    Wayne
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:


    Wayne
     
  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A ton to post so here is the first of many. Here is the launch in Tidelands Park next to the famous Coronado bridge.

    I will be transporting this beautiful rescue pup named Zelda as the star of an all-new Hyundai #Ioniq Hybrid #ad campaign, Coast to Coast on a Benjamin.

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    Zelda the rescue pup ready for a ride to her home in Phoenix, AZ. A true star of the show!

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    The Ioniq in the background.

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    Sweet girl. :)

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    A hero if I ever saw one! :)

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    Never cross the country without an Atlas, right? What's with that $100 bill anyway? ;)

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    The Garmin and aFCD are reset.

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    Topped off with the tank seal in place. Signed, sealed, and delivered.​

    This efficient long distance traveler is traveling with pups. :)

    Wayne
     
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  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Time to put up or shut up! A 6 percent grade limited climb on the I-8 from sea level to 4,181' above sea level at Crestwood Summit and back down to sea level in just over 100 miles... This time with 500 lbs. of people and gear and a no-holds-barred run up to the summit and back down to the desert floor on the other side. Let's roll.

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    The monster elevation profile.

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    San Diego traffic including a short 5-mile detour around it.

    Crestwood Summit

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    Crestwood Summit on top of the drivable Laguna Mountain Range.

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    > EPA highway at 60.4 mpg indicated while climbing to the summit with a full load!

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    Garmin at the peak.

    Sea Level

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    The #Ioniq reaches Sea Level.

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    92.5 mpg indicated.

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    Garmin on the bottom.​

    From the pre-dive testing results to the actual drive with an additional 300 lbs. or almost 10 percent, the results both to the summit and back down to seal level saw the achieved results fall by about 5 percent. The result is still amazing. Unlike the test segment, the additional mass did provide more accumulative regen including more A/C use on the descent as the first engine start occurred almost a mile after the Sea Level sign at 94 mpg vs. the test run which saw the first engine start approximately 2-miles from the sea level sign and a complete engine on, SoC climb, and Ice-Off cycle prior to reaching the Sea Level sign.

    Wayne
     
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  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The fun part of any challenge drive is where do you stay?

    2017 Hyundai Ioniq reaches Arizona

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    Before rerouting the entire drive further North to steer clear of Hurricane Harvey's aftermath, I was able to keep one of my overnight stop choices intact. That being "The Downtown Clifton Hotel Tucson". As its name implies, it is just a few blocks off the 10 in downtown Tucson, AZ.

    What is unique about this small and out of the way overnight motel is it is a throwback to the 40s and 50s. Adobe construction, cement floors, gravel parking lots, Indian design wool bedspreads, and even a few bicycles to take out for a ride if you so desire. After pressing up the tires that is... As a 3-star with 4.5 star ratings, it does not offer the amenities of a modern hotel but what it does offer is owners that are in constant touch with you to make sure your stay is as good as it gets. They called me back twice over the two weeks after I had made the reservation. The second one was to say after 08:00 pm, my keys would be in a coded lock box and how to get into my room after hours. Yes it was a bit different than a chain hotel and one of the best places I have stayed outside of car/truck camping I have experienced in a while.

    "The Downtown Clifton Hotel Tucson"

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    PS: They provide a $10 voucher to patrons to pick up a full breakfast, lunch, or dinner at a local restaurant just a short walk from their location. I did not see that in the description or expect it but it was welcome! It receives Wayne's 8 out of 10 Star rating just because it is so darn retro cool. :)

    Wayne
     
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    This was one for the record books as I delivered the Rescue Pup back to her owner in Phoenix from Tucson and immediately afterwards headed back toward the great states of New Mexico and Texas.

    2017 Hyundai Ioniq and Day 2 on the Road

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    I waited here at the NM border until dusk. It was worth the wait. ;)

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    The Continental Divide in Western New Mexico between Deming and Lordsburg.​

    I refueled in Las Cruces, NM and will have a post describing the three full refuels and short final refuel in much detail a few posts down. Here is the synopsis of refuel #1.

    Is Coast to Coast on < $100 of fuel in the formidable 57/59 mpg city/highway rated 2017 Hyundai Ioniq even possible? Her first refuel occurred after some 914.5 miles, was north of 80 mpg, and on just $24.48 worth of fuel! Not bad for a car with 500 pounds of person, gear, a beautiful rescue pup with A/C keeping us both cool and comfortable the entire distance. The #Ioniq is definitely on target. :)

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    Texas was just a few short miles away.​

    As I was making my way across an 800-mile swath of the Desert Southwest, one of my favorite "car" songs had me "Car Singing". Trust me, the only one that could have withstood the outpouring of broken chords and made up lyrics was me, myself, and I. The three of us were hilariously entertained for some of the drive last night and into this morning with the following tune called "Radar Love" by Golden Earring.
    That was for my wife Marian. :)

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    Next Services 111 Miles​

    And the feature pic? How about this for a great #ad pic from the "Middle of Nowhere, NM"? What better car to forgo "No Services" for hundreds of miles, long gas lines across the Gulf Coast into Florida, and high fuel prices nationwide in the wake of Hurricane Harvey and the upcoming Hurricane Irma? If only we were all driving Ioniq's, there would be no high fuel costs, long lines, fuel tanker police escorts, or range anxiety to keep us safe. Think about that for a minute.

    My goal and final destination is to formally introduce the comfortable and hyper efficient - 715+ mile range on a single tank - Ioniq to Hurricane #Irma on Florida's Atlantic Coast. Does the hashtag #ChasingIrma" fit this endurance drive?

    Wayne
     
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  14. alster

    alster Well-Known Member

    Thanks Wayne for your update and looks like you are having a great time. Looking hard at the Ioniq Blue. Looks like it may be possible to get
    the base blue model for $18,000-$19,000 or so. My next step is to take one for a test drive. I see that by testing one you can get $40.00.

    80 mpg is great especially under those conditions...
     
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  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Alster:

    If it were me, I would reach up and try and get into the SEL trim with the Tech package. Higher resolution displays, more advanced safety equipment, and quieter on the highway. I love the Blue trims efficiency of course but the SEL with the Tech is the one I would purchase. :)

    Wayne
     
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  16. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Day 3 with the 2017 Hyundai Ioniq

    Most know I am a sucker for the Drive-in Movie Theater experience. Although I do not have the time to look up the latest dwindling by the month nationwide count, I believe it is in the low 400s still open and operating. Whenever I pass an active Drive-In or a closed one like this throwback in Lamesa, TX, I think back to some of my best times with my family at The Keno Drive-In in Kenosha, WI as a child. Like the Lamesa Drive-In, the Keno was closed a few years ago and all that is left is an empty "Field of Dreams" from a bygone era.

    Permanently Closed Sky-Vue Drive-In - Lemesa, TX.

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    The 2017 Hyundai #Ioniq is the perfect vehicle for a "Coast to Coast on a Benjamin" excursion and short stops and sights like this one make the long hours and patience to achieve the efficiency it is capable of so worth it!

    Wayne
     
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  17. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Texas is known for a number of things. Big Hearts ❤ and Big Oil are just two of them. They are also a huge farming state with beans and cotton growing from horizon to horizon as I made my way across on US-180.

    Something else they are known for is wind. Texans know what this renewable and natural abundant energy supply can do for their state and the world.

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    Big wind is Texas' future energy production centerpiece front and center.​

    With the #Ioniq PHEV just weeks away and the Electric here today, imagine the possibilities and the fact many of us will be commuting on the energy these very same wind turbines are producing at this very moment.

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    Tens of thousands of square miles of agriculture on display with an oil pump in the background.

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    A Texas sunset is a vista that everyone needs to experience once in their life. :)

    Wayne
     
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  18. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The Louisiana border was not that far ahead...

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    The Hyundai Ioniq is a real trooper. Thanking my lucky stars that she is so comfortable with more than 600 miles per day behind the wheel while still holding north of 80 mpg.

    To date, the super hybrid has safely delivered a stranded motorist and rescue pup to Phoenix, covered 2/3 of this great country we call America, and done so on < $50!

    As we all face the harsh reality of natural catastrophe through friends, loved ones, or living through the experience in person and real time, the #Ioniq makes perfect sense to reduce the inevitable chaos both before and after natural disasters occur. I am discussing Hurricane Harvey and Irma of course. The Hyundai Ioniq tagline, "Not just a better alternative. It's a better car" #ad makes a whole lot of sense in this day and age. :)

    #ChasingIrma with a vengeance in the future of Hyundai today. And it is well over 1,000-miles away.

    Wayne
     
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  19. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    After the Hyundai Ioniq second refuel in Shreveport, Louisiana the night before, the #Ioniq cruised across Louisiana, the Mississippi River, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia.

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    Crossing the Mississippi lead me to look up the following details I found to be pretty awesome!

    Mississippi River Facts according to the National Park Service

    The Mississippi's length is estimated to be between 2,300 and 2,552 miles long. At Lake Itasca, the rivers headwater is between 20 and 30 feet wide, the narrowest stretch over its entire length. The widest part of the Mississippi can be found at Lake Winnibigoshish near Bena, MN, where it is more than 11 miles. The widest navigable section in the shipping channel of the Mississippi is Lake Pepin, where it is approximately 2 miles wide.

    At the headwaters, the average surface speed of the water is ~ 1.2 mph. At New Orleans the river flows ~ 3 mph on average.

    On a volume basis, the headwaters at Lake Itasca's average flow rate is 6 cu-ft/sec. At New Orleans where the river enters the Gulf of Mexico, the average flow rate is 600,000 cu-ft/sec!

    To move goods up and down the Mississippi, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers maintains a 9-foot shipping channel from Baton Rouge, LA to Minneapolis, MN. From Baton Rouge past New Orleans to Head of Passes, a 45-foot channel is maintained to allow ocean-going vessels access to ports between New Orleans and Baton Rouge.

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    Wayne
     
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  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A bit OT but let me post a few tidbits on Rest Areas across the country. The South has upped its game to world class levels over the past two decades. From Texas to Florida and on up to Virginia, the numerous Welcome Centers and Rest Areas are quite literally parks with snacks, food, drink, information, tables, clean rest room, extremely well-maintained grounds, and in some cases include 24-hour on-site security!

    Three decades ago, I visited a Rest Area in Missouri and it was nothing but a wooden outhouse over a hole in the ground with 0 facilities beyond that. Disgusting when thinking back. Today, you will find the worst in my new home state of California of all places where as the entire South's Rest Areas are a place you want to take a break, not dread to. Yes it costs a lot of money to build and maintain these Welcome Centers and Rest Areas in this condition. On the flip side, why is the South's business resurgence so strong? Could it be as simple as clean and comfortable Welcome Centers and Rest Areas promoting the individual states positive business outlook?

    A few minutes respite from behind the wheel of the Hyundai #Ioniq at two clean, comfortable, and inviting Welcome Center Rest Areas while driving across the country last week.

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    Panoramic shots of both Louisiana and Mississippi Rest Areas along the I-20 corridor. The I-10 corridor Rest Areas are just as nice.​

    Wayne
     
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