Discussion in 'Kia' started by Carcus, Dec 15, 2016.
Here is Bob's Guinness World Record Certificate.
I just want to thank Bob on this thread for him returning my call and answering my questions about strategies for improving NIRO MPG's. Turns out they are simular, but not the same as for my CMAX Records. Thanks Bob.
Kia has updated their website and no longer list the Niro as "future vehicle". We have a MSRP for the base model of $22,890. Still don't see pricing for the other trims.
At that price, they are going to sell a ton of them!!!
Shhhh!! Not so loud! We want them to launch with 0% for 66mo plus $500 or $1k Auto Show Bonus Cash to keep payments under control.
The current 0-66 terms for many Kia vehicles lets new owners finance $25k for $379 a month. That means that prospects with no (or somewhat negative) equity could still roll out in a new vehicle for under 400/mo without having to bring a briefcase full of cash for a down payment.
Interesting point to ponder, courtesy of the goverment's inflation calculator:
$22890 in today's dollars equals $17550 in late 2003, when the new 2004 Toyota Prius launched. The MSRP on that '04 Prius was $20295, which is $26475 in today's dollars.
The Niro MSRP also undercuts the base level Sportage by a few hundred bucks - amazing for a hybrid.
So the Niro is shaping up to be one of the biggest bargains of the Kia line.
Shhhh!! I had to shoosh myself.
As always, a great analysis. The inflation angle is one I would have never thought of. Which as you pointed out what a bargain the Niro is. Super efficient for low operation costs and a really low up front price too? Damn!
I remember that my 2002 base Aucra RSX was ~$21500 and the new cars are so much more advanced and have so much more stuff for about the same money or even less. Go technology!
Kia must not be that far away from actually selling the Niro in the US. I will wait for Hyundai to sell the Ioniq and drive both before deciding, so c'mon Hyundai.
I have seen one of these two spots on Cable. Not bad.
I like Hyundai's lifetime battery warranty on their hybrids. I'm the kind of guy who wants to drive the car until the wheels fall off. Which did happen once on my 89 Civic.
If Kia doesn't offer that same battery warranty , that would keep me away.
Saw my first Niro commercial yesterday. Very excited to see that! I'm also amazed by the price. Based on my experience with KIA pricing (Used to sell them), the next trim level will probably be around $24,000 with the EX around $26,000 or so.
Ahem. The price is way too high. Right? nudge nudge wink wink
I fear the upcharge for the higher end models...
I really think they (Kia) know what the current market will bear. It's hard to sell a hybrid when fuel is so cheap. Maybe the discounting on the Niro will be less than other cars in the same price range ( well-loaded Elantra/Forte). But we all KNOW what will happen when the price of gasoline spikes again. In other words , go get your Niro/Ioniq/Prius Prime fast , before they change their minds about the price.
Today Kia released a 15-second teaser of the full-blown Niro spot for the Super Bowl. It is their Big Game Teaser “Run” Starring Melissa McCarthy. No tmuch oither than a goofy run but... Let us wait and see.
The ad traces a heroic and harrowing journey stretching from the polar ice caps to an arid desert, and continues to prove why the Niro is "a smarter kind of crossover" with its no-compromise package of style, utility and fuel economy of up to 50 miles per gallon combined.
Sweet. That means in 2019 when it's to replace the Prius I have something else to look into!
The 2017 Kia Niro pricing is out!
Early this morning Kia released pricing for its all-new 2017 Niro crossover hybrid. As posted earlier, it will be offered in five trim levels – FE, LX, EX, Touring and a limited-production, Launch Edition.
2017 Kia Niro
The FE is just $22,890 and the top-of-the-line Touring with its many luxury, infotainment and convenience features is $29,650. D&H charges of $895 are not included .
The Niro FE, with a starting MSRP of $22,890 and 50-MPG (combined) rating, is equipped with 16-inch alloys; 6-way front seats; power windows; keyless entry; CC; 7-inch touchscreen display with rearview camera; UVO3 with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto and a six-speaker audio system with steering-wheel-mounted controls.
The Niro LX starts at $23,200 and adds Smart Key with push button start, roof rails and LED rear combination lamps.
The EX arrives at $25,700 are heated combination cloth and leather seating, leather-wrapped steering wheel, LED daytime running lights, heated power folding mirrors, front fog lamps, and Blind Spot Detection (BSD) with Rear Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA) and Lane Change Assist (LCA) driver assistance features.
The Launch Edition will be priced at $28,000 and will be available in Snow White Pearl or Aurora Black Pearl. Unique Hyper Gray 18-inch alloys with Michelin tires, unique metallic color grille, 10-way driver's seat, 8-inch touchscreen navigation system, 8-speaker Harman Kardon premium audio are added.
The top of the line Touring trim is priced at $29,650 and includes a power tilt/slide sunroof, front and rear park assist, heated and ventilated seats, heated steering wheel, 10-way power driver's seat with memory and 8-speaker Harman Kardon premium audio.
Three option packages are available.
The LX can be equipped with a $1,450 Advanced Technology Package which includes Forward Collision Warning, Autonomous Emergency Braking, and Lane Departure Warning System.
The EX can be equipped with Sunroof and Advanced Technology Package for $2,300 and includes power tilt/slide sunroof, Smart Cruise Control, Forward Collision Warning, Autonomous Emergency Braking, and Lane Departure Warning System.
The Toring can be equipped with its own Advanced Technology Package for $1,900 and includes HID headlights, wireless phone charger and 110V inverter, Smart Cruise Control, Forward Collision Warning, Autonomous Emergency Braking, and Lane Departure Warning System.
As a recap, here are the basic pricing details.
FE - $22,890
LX - $23,200
EX - $25,700
Launch Edition - $28,800
D&H Charge: $895
LX Advanced Technology Package - $1,450
EX Advanced Technology Package - $2,300
Touring Advanced Technology Package - $1,900
Not bad pricing on it! Looks like my pricing was pretty spot on Do you know what trim level the nav-prediction system comes on?
It looks like the LX with the ATP would have everything I want without the hated sunroof. I'd like the ECO-DAS system too, but it would probably only be offered on the Touring edition.
Excel spreadsheet with all the pricing details here: http://www.kiamedia.com/us/en/models/niro/2017/features#niro
I am not sure. I would not place to much hope on that system. You know what it is going to do and thus you can outplan it more than likely.
Pricing, like exterior size, seems to fit right in between the Soul and the Sportage. The Soul runs from $18k to $28k, the Niro from $23k to $33k, and the Sportage from $24k to $34k.
The Niro equipment level - at the $23k FE trim level - is closest to the Soul '+' with automatic, which stickers a little over $21k. Considering the difference in EPA combined - 27 vs 50 - the Niro starts to look like a no-brainer. There is no significant "hybrid cost penalty" yet it can cut fuel costs by around 50%.
It's worth comparing to the Soul because that is Kia's biggest seller - about 146,000 of them sold last year. This year, it will be interesting to see how many people decide to take the Niro home - especially if it qualifies for CleanPass HOV access.
UPDATE: After posting above, and this should be worthy of a separate post so it stands out:
The link for New York's DMV and the list of Clean Pass cars - https://dmv.ny.gov/more-info/clean-pass-stickers-high-occupancy-vehicle-lanes-long-island-expressway
The Niro FE and Niro LX and EX qualify for Clean-Pass in New York - meaning they can use the HOV lane without passengers. This is a major selling point for commuters, as it is a major time saver. And since Wayne has demonstrated what the Niro can offer in typical city traffic, the fuel savings are going to be icing on the cake.
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