2017 Kia Niro CUV Sets GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS Title for Lowest Fuel Consumption for a Hybrid Vehicle

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  1. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2016 Crosstrek, 2012 PiP, 2014 C-MAX Energi

    Gotta make up for all the high MPG and hybrids/BEVs not paying their fair share... ;)
     
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  2. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Same here in Pennsylvania, it's going up 9.8 cents per gallon today.

    I think we now have the highest or second highest gasoline tax in the country.

    The Shell by me is $2.69 a gallon, most stations are in the $2.63 - $2.67 range according to Gas Buddy.
     
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  3. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    Yup. Phase III of the governor's increased gas tax - they were saying a dime a gallon was coming, effective Jan 1. It's supposed to go to road maintenance but the roads in NEPA look like a moonscape.
     
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  4. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    MaxxMPG, You guys voted for Trump do you really think Gov. Tom Wolf is going to actually fix YOUR roads. :p
     
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  5. Funny, I saw last year that the were raising the license plate fee on EVs BY $200 this year too. They raised all the license plate fees here at the same time the gas tax went up.
    I renewed 3 plates yesterday. 2 company vehicles for work, a 2014 Ford e450 handicap bus, under 15 passenger -$246, and a 2012 Lincoln mkz for $220. My truck was $185.

    I'm positive our roads will get all the extra fees just like they promised.
     
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  6. alster

    alster Well-Known Member

    Gasoline today, 01/06/2017, Costco gas station, Warrenton, Oregon. Regular, 87 octane $2.339 / Premium 2.499 / gallon. Yesterday, regular was $2.299 / gal.
    Still less now than back in the $4.00 / gallon days. I hope it levels at a price less than $3.00 / gallon for regular gas. Trump will soon be president and it appears he
    wants the U.S. to be oil independent, we will see. There is a glut today in the world oil market right now it is being artificially raised, not based on supply and demand....
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I received this in the mail on Friday so I guess that means it is official.

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    I have not seen Bob's yet but he should have received one by now. As did Kia.

    This is one hell of an efficient CUV and as I said after driving the Elantra ECO a few months back, who would have thought that 10 years ago the most efficient drivetrain engineers in the world were not Japanese, American's, or German's but Koreans.

    Wayne

    #experienceNiro
     
  8. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Who would have thought 10 years ago there would be hybrids that get 76 MPG, or hybrids with over a thousand horsepower?
     
  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Thunderstruck:

    The magic MPGe. If only they knew how much was thrown away in a typical creation of a kW. Upwards of 50 to 65 percent. Sounds familiar, doesn't it... :(

    Wayne
     
  10. TheFordFamily

    TheFordFamily Well-Known Member

    I'll take it off his hands. I need something that sits higher and that would work perfectly for me! ;)
     
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  11. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Actually, the Niro and Ioniq have a 43hp electric motor. More to the point, though, I've read criticism of the smaller Ioniq/Niro motor hp compared to the Prius/Ford hp as if it's a disadvantage instead of an advantage. The Prius/Ford power-split hybrid system needs two large, expensive electric motors to counteract the torque of the ICE. Hyundai's P2 hybrid doesn't need to feed power to the transmission to counteract ICE torque. It can use a much smaller, cheaper electric motor. It's an advantage not disadvantage. Hyundai does use a 1.56kwh battery pack which powers the motor--twice the size of the gen IV Prius. Just sayin...
     
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  12. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I find it hilarious when someone suggests that maybe Wayne should follow HIS tips for efficient driving. Shot down in flames !
     
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  13. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    Other endeavors to consider: Giving Gordon Ramsay cooking lessons, or perhaps teaching Judge Judy all about state and federal law.
    Fortunately for Kia owners, the Niro and Optima Hybrid are very easy to drive. Even a novice can clobber the EPA without having to study, memorize and seek to emulate pedantic tricks to get the impressive numbers.
    As Wayne and Bob said earlier in the thread, just DWL will send the Niro into the upper reaches of the FCD. That makes an outstanding option for daily commuting.
     
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  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    It showed up on the floor of the NAIAS the day after I left so I did not get to snap proper pics. Here was a smarpthone pic from a Kia PR team member as it is parked for the public at large. :)

    2017 Kia Niro Hybrid

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    Wayne

    #experienceNiro
     
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  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Regarding temperatures harming the Niro's capability, every display shows temps alongside displayed efficiency. It was a similar 0.25 percent/degree F we have all grown accustomed too.

    2017 Kia Niro Hybrid

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    Refueling in Lafayette, LA.​

    I hope that helps.

    Wayne

    #experienceNiro
     
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  16. ptjones

    ptjones Member

    Wayne

    I read your whole thread and I still don't see any Hypermiling info, HVB charging/ discharging techniques. All I picked up was changing course to improve FE, sitting on knife edge for 3 hrs(didn't explain why, what you were doing), noticed you had cruise control on once and you delayed departures because of low temps. I assumed you drafted, P&G and coasted among other things to get those great MPG's. I find it disappointing that KIA Dealers say they have NIRO's on the Internet, but when you talk to them they don't and does seem like they know when they will.:( It's been a month and a half since you got yours, makes you wonder what's going on here. You would think the KIA Dealers should know by now.

    Paul
     
  17. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2016 Crosstrek, 2012 PiP, 2014 C-MAX Energi

    Paul, the Niro (hybrid) is expected in the spring with "seed units" scattered around the USA at various dealers. There was a posting with the list of current dealers that have a preview unit of the Niro in their showroom.
     
  18. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Paul, they used DWL. See posts 24, 25, 28, 29, 30 for more specifics.
     
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  19. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    This is the thread that has the information - http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

    P&G doesn't work on every car - hybrid or otherwise. The Niro will do its own P&G, running on battery and then firing the engine to drive the car while charging the pack. The LiPo batteries are very robust and they can run the engine hard, in the best load range, and the battery life is not shortened with the fast-charging.

    They are not in dealers yet, but will be by "winter" which ends 3/21/17. East coast trails west coast by a month or two, so if you're in the east, figure you'll be test driving one for Cinco de Mayo or Mothers Day.
    The Kia dealers, like dealers of any manufacturer, don't know much about the product at all much less what they're getting and when - unless they dig deep into the pipeline on the dealer access pages. And right now they would see Q1 2017 for delivery estimate.

    If you really need to drive a Niro, be patient and they will be here before you know it. The Ioniq will be, too, if you prefer the tadpole style against the loaf-of-bread style.
    The Kia hybrids don't demand much of the driver, and they give some great daily mpg numbers without having to treat them like a science experiment. My sister has an Optima hybrid, and she's beating the EPA numbers while driving as though she just knocked over a bank.
     
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  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Here are a few of my Instagram posts with some of what has been posted in this story on the 2017 Kia Niro Guinness World Record.

    2017 Kia Niro Hybrid

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    On Instagram.​

    Wayne

    #experienceNiro
     
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