2017 Kia Niro CUV Sets GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS Title for Lowest Fuel Consumption for a Hybrid Vehicle

Discussion in 'Kia' started by Carcus, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

    Nice trip Wayne. Great write up.
     
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  2. alster

    alster Well-Known Member

    Wayne, Happy New year to you and your family and all our forum members and their families.

    You guys did a great job with the Niro professional in every way. I'm sure all us forum members are
    waiting for your next driving adventure next year. Personally I'm looking forward to the Ioniq review....
     
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  3. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    I'm only seeing European sources for that tow rating. Look's like we'll have to wait for an US owner's manual to be released to know for our market.

    For earlier Prius models, the weak link for towing was inadequate cooling for the transaxle fluid.
     
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  4. ptjones

    ptjones Active Member

    I was wondering what your average speed was for your record run or driving time?:)

    Paul
     
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  5. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    Per Guinness regulations, the vehicle must be driven within legal limits at all times. Violating traffic laws disqualifies the attempt. This means speed will vary depending on the posted speed limit of the road being traveled.
    On interstates, "between the limits" is the rule of the day - above minimum and below maximum - so as not to end up disqualified.
    Average speed is not tracked because it is not a useful piece of information. Driving time also varies depending on weather and even traffic conditions. As you read previously, there are times when a detour is prudent to avoid weather or traffic patterns that could degrade fuel economy significantly.
     
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  6. ptjones

    ptjones Active Member

    So does "between the Limits" mean if posted speed limit is 75mph and either there is no posted minimum or 40/45mph minimum you can drive as slow as you want(not safe) or 40/45mph or above where posted? How do you prove to Guinness you were driving fast enough. Obviously you didn't take the shortest route so the distance doesn't matter, so the most fuel efficient route is important.

    Paul
     
  7. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    All vehicles have a speed "band" where they are most efficient, and for most modern cars and crossovers, that's in the range of typical highway speed limits. The powertrain of the Niro shines even brighter in stop and crawl, with Wayne keeping the FCD pegged at 99.9 in typical California commuting.
    There are redundant tracking methods implemented during these drives, and it is very easy to compare the speed recorded with the posted limit.
     
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  8. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Ptjones:

    Welcome to CleanMPG!

    Chris answered your query as he is a Lowest Fuel Consumption Guinness World Record (GWR) holder himself. Meaning he has survived the severe documentation cycle as well.

    The Niro Reaches the FL/GA border:
    Those 2,705 miles in 97 hours included three (2) hour + refueling stops in Las Cruces, NM, Corpus Christi, TX, and Lafayette, LA, 15-minutes of documentation at each driver swap, rest break - I had consumed 20 of my 24 pack of Pepsi's by that point ;), breakfast, lunch, and dinner stop, every border sign, a 2 hour maintenance stop in Las Cruces, heavy traffic through LA, Tucson, El Paso, Houston, Baton Rogue, Mobile, and Jacksonville, plus 3 overnight stays with 30 minutes of documentation required for each of those plus sleep.

    2017 Kia Niro reaches New Mexico!

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    This was the NM state border crossing stop that you saw posted previously. It took approximately 20 minutes and included 47 pics on 3 different cameras both inside and outside the Niro, 1.5 GBs of vid on two different cameras, two complete log book updates, and the State Map update.

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    A few you did not see because I thought they were not as cool.​

    The time lapse shots I took at the border crossings after dusk or at night took well over 100 pics and closer to 30-minutes as I had to put together the tripod and mount a camera, wait for big-rigs to come up on the Niro parked to light up the state sign and the car while adding the artistic effect of time lapse, and break it all down again to store securely in the back of the Niro.

    2017 Kia Niro reaches Texas

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    The one you saw posted a few pages back.​

    This stop was approximately 30-minutes. And here are just a few of the tens of timelapse shots I snapped from the same location you did not see because I thought they sucked. ;)

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    All of this and a lot more in just 97 hours. Hopefully now you can see why "average speed" means zip when running a Guinness World Record drive. Similarly, when I receive a Press Car from the LA Fleet that was just in one of the big car mags lots for a week or more, I usually see an average speed between 21 and 29 mph. How is a car being placed on test tracks, running 100+ mph wherever these dumb @$$es drive to, and driven until each tire is showing tens of thousands of miles of wear on a car with just 2k miles on the clock have such a low average speed? The answer is we will never know. Maybe they are shooting time lapse and recording all of the data at every stop like Bob and I were. I personally know these guys and gals and trust me, they do not record zip. ;)

    Guinness requires and received the original GPS tracking files immediately following our arrival in NY showing dates, times, speeds, distances, stopped locations, and digital track covering the entire trip in order to prove we followed not only the mandatory lowest fuel consumption GWR requirements but also the vehicle tracking covering the letter and intent of all road laws far beyond what anyone else would ever be subjected to.

    I do not wish for anyone to endure a road trip crossing the U.S. Continent in that short a period all the while meeting all of the requirements of a GWR. The drive itself is a straight up "sitting on a knife for a 3-hour stint behind the wheel" whereas the documentation is a grueling SOB with checklist after checklist being worked through again and again to make sure everything required and more is covered in triplicate. At the same time I completely understand the need for the intense and overly intrusive documentation. If the requirements were not as strict, there would be individuals of all types unrightfully claiming them.

    I hope that helps.

    Wayne

    #experienceNiro
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Thunderstruck:

    $2.80/gallon and climbing quickly here in San Diego and Los Angeles. :(

    Wayne
     
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  11. TheFordFamily

    TheFordFamily Well-Known Member

    $2.30 / Gallon here in Akron/Canton. Seems to be holding steady at least for now.
     
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  12. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    About the same in Taxachusetts.

    Niro info:
    Here is a fairly new link I believe... Came in my email.

    http://www.kia.com/us/en/vehicle/niro/2017
     
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  13. TheFordFamily

    TheFordFamily Well-Known Member

    I didn't get an email from them, makes me feel less special :(
     
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  14. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    Awww.. but did you indicate to Kia that you wanted updates? ;)
     
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  15. TheFordFamily

    TheFordFamily Well-Known Member

    I did actually! Didn't get anything. Got an email from the dealership a couple of weeks ago saying they'll email me as soon as they get one in though!
     
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  16. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    My apologies, TFF. So you went through the dealership, as in you left your email with them? I signed up on the national web site that was previewing the Niro.
     
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  17. TheFordFamily

    TheFordFamily Well-Known Member

    Signed up on the website, although my gmail sometimes doesn't even get emails, so maybe that's its fault?
     
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  18. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    Very odd...
     
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  19. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Up another dime to 2.89. It's going to be a sellers market by the time these hit the dealers floors.
     
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  20. State Gas tax went up on the first i Michigan and gas prices jumped by double the tax increase
     
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