2017 Toyota Prius Prime: Price + Content + Efficiency = WOW!!!

Discussion in 'In the News' started by xcel, Oct 3, 2016.

  1. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    As I have seen more pictures of the Prius Prime, I think it may be the sharp lip above the grill, between the headlights, that is the problem. Which is strange - to fix that would be trivial.

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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Wick1ert:

    The Advanced trim includes Pre-conditioning via the app (Remote Climate) or setup through the display.

    Wayne
     
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  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I was just sent an update as the EPA has fully certified the Prius Prime's EPA city/highway/combined results as listed at 55/53/54 mpg. What is new is the combined MPGe figure is now 133 vs 124 as listed previously!

    Wayne
     
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  4. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Pretty amazing. Beating out even the most efficient BEV (i3 BEV at 124 mpge combined).

    With charging timer options to take advantage of lower rates and 3 power modes to select when/how to use the ev/gas combo, the prime could just be old Scrooge's ultimate "hyper miler-miser 3D chess game".
     
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  5. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    It would seem that the EPA Combined cycle is short enough for the Prius Prime to run (almost all?) on electricity. And since the Prius is a lot lower aero drag than the i3, this makes sense.
     
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  6. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2016 Crosstrek, 2012 PiP, 2014 C-MAX Energi

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  7. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2016 Crosstrek, 2012 PiP, 2014 C-MAX Energi

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  8. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Interesting how they can figure out how to add all these amazing capabilities to the car but the engineers still haven't come up with a way to add extensible sun visors.
     
  9. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2016 Crosstrek, 2012 PiP, 2014 C-MAX Energi

    Hahahaha... easily done with liquid crystals. Someday. Besides, we won't need the sun visors when we're mere passengers in an opaque cylinder hurtling where our NAV computer directs per our wishes.
     
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  10. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    There's a test drive video saying 15s 0-60 in EV mode. Disappointed that it's as bad as the Energy twins, which are hundreds of pounds heavier. I wouldn't care, but it's not going to have the pep that drivers would get from other plug-ins.

    Disappointed that RCTA is an upsell in the Advanced since that's something that'll help reduce that many stupid collisions that happen when people are backing out.

    But, the base value is something special, with crash protection and ACC and I think that a lot of typical Prius shoppers will be interested. More savvy shoppers will know that in California in particular the Volt has some sizable discounts that combine with the extra $3k Fed credit to bring the prices closer, and more generally, the Volt's greater range and zip will have broader appeal. But this aggressive pricing might be more of a defense against the upcoming Ioniq PHEV.

    One thing we won't know until it gets some winter drives, is just how effective and efficient that heat pump will be. If it's good, then it could be a good sign that heat pumps will become both better and more common in PEVs.
     
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  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    There is currently approximately $700 discount off MSRP being offered from the California area dealerships and $1,000 rebate from Toyota currently. For California consumers, this brings a Prius Prime Plus to just over $20k +TTL. I think there may more $s on the hood by late summer given both the Ioniq and Niro PHEVs are scheduled to arrive this fall.

    $27,965 to start including the $865 D&H charge
    $4,500 Fed Tax Credit
    $1,500 Calif. State tax rebate
    $700 off retail
    $1,000 Toyota Rebate
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    2017 Toyota Prius Family

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    Toyota Prius Prime Plus up front as seen at the #MKEAutoShow last week.

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    Toyota Prius Prime 19.8 cu.ft. of cargo volume.​

    Recently, the Automotive Science Group (ASG) awarded the 2017 Prius Prime as the vehicle that achieves the lowest carbon footprint of any model year 2017 car available in the North American market, knocking off the Nissan Leaf that held that distinction for three consecutive years.

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    ASG’s assessment found increased environmental impacts associated with production, manufacturing and assembly for the advanced lithium-ion battery electric technology, however these increased impacts were more than offset within the first 6.5 years of vehicle operation, or 87,594 vehicle miles traveled. ASG also reveals that advanced powertrains are largely responsible for leading significant fuel economy gains in 2017. ASG found the Prius Prime producing 29% less GHG emissions than the #20 car on the Index, over the first 6.5 years of operations.

    Wayne
     
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  12. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Ha! Look at the little Mirage in that list. :p
     
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  13. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Don't be laughing at the Mirage ! It's an Honest Little Car. They don't make many of those these days. Or if they do , they don't try to sell 'em here.
     
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  14. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Just saw this story pop up on my phones news feed.:)

    http://www.hybridcars.com/toyota-prius-prime-becoming-hot-commodity-on-dealer-lots/
     
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  15. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2016 Crosstrek, 2012 PiP, 2014 C-MAX Energi

    I hope the popularity in California doesn't kill the Prius Prime deals for the 50 states...
     
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