Discussion in 'Hyundai' started by xcel, May 12, 2016.
That sounds a lot like Ford...
The 2016 Midwest Automotive Media Association Fall Rally (#MAMA16FR) continues...
The second vehicle out of the box is possibly the most fuel efficient non-hybrid/non-diesel within the subcompact market in the form of the 2017 #Hyundai #Elantra ECO. As driven with mats and D&H, $20,650 at retail. About $17k from dealerships nationwide when shopped.
Along with a 32/40 mpg city/highway rating - that is way under rated by the way, the highlights include a 128 hp and 156 lb-ft of torque, direct injected and turbocharged 1.4L I4 mated to a fast and smooth shifting 7-speed DSG AT.
Other features I find extraordinary for the price is the 15" black highlight alloys, leather wrapped wheel and shift knob, 7" central display with std. #Apple #CarPlay and #Android Auto, 95.8/14.4 cu.ft. of passenger/cargo volume, and long enough lower seat cushions plus long reach telescopic wheel to make it comfortable for taller drivers.
Did I mention the efficiency? The 1.5L-T in the Civic is just slightly more efficient than the excellent base 2.0L in the Elantra SE and Limited. The 1.4L may be that much more efficient than the Civic. We will find out in a few weeks as we take it out for more than a 7-mile city/suburban drive loop. 72 displayed is chart topping for sure.
This week's ride is courtesy of Hyundai and we have been waiting to drive this one since its introduction last year. Finally my schedule and its availability have crossed paths for a week long wringing out.
Remember the Limited trim was efficient but more than a few competitors could match and/or top it. The SE was an eye opener not only because it was clearly the second most efficient non-hybrid/non-diesel we have driven this year, it can be picked up for < $15k with a 7” central touch screen that has incorporated Android Auto and Apple CarPlay for NAVI plus all the other standard features. I cannot find a better value today from any other brand.
Its 128 hp and 156 lb-ft. of torque 1.4L GDI-T I4 is mated to a fast shifting 7-speed DSG proving owners a 32/40 mpg EPA rating. If it is anything like the SE, that number is vastly under rated benefiting the consumer at the pump over the life of the vehicle.
2017 Hyundai Elantra Eco Review
Topping off at a Shell in Torrance, Calif.
The Eco is an upgraded SE with the above drivetrain over and above the base 2.0L mated to a std. 6-speed AT. It also includes 15” alloys with low RRc tires, the SE’s $800 Popular equipment pkg. w/ the following:
7” color touchscreen w/ Android Auto & Apple CarPlay
Rearview camera with dynamic guidelines
Wheel mounted audio/cruise controls
Heated exterior mirrors
And the SEs $1,300 Tech Pkg. w/ the following:
BSM w/ RCTA and Lane Change Assist
Leather-wrapped wheel and shift knob
Dual auto climate
Hands-free smart trunk
Door handle approach lights
Heated front seats
Driver/Passenger Sunvisor extensions <-- very welcome addition over the base SE w/ the Popular equipment pkg.
Illuminated vanity mirrors
Front passenger seatback pocket
That is a lot of content. The Eco trim with all of the above lists for $20,650 plus mats ($120), and D&H ($835) for a grand total of $21,610. Although the Eco trim is rare, picking up an Elantra SE for $4k off is as simple as asking for it. In other words, this very well equipped Eco variant can be picked up for approximately $17k + TTL.
You, I, or anyone else cannot find a better equipped anything for this price from any other OEM.
Topped off after 45 minutes and the gauges/Garmin reset.
In the meantime, let us find out a little more about its efficiency.
After five miles, the Eco trim was already up to 71 mpg indicated and then the 405 smacked me down. It took well over over an hour to cover the next 23 miles as Android Auto’s Google Maps indicated there was an accident ahead and I should consider rerouting to surface streets to save time. See the Android Auto screen shot below. By the time I passed the already cleared accident scene, the Eco trim was down to just 57.2 mpg. This was not looking good.
405 and 5 Traffic
The only two lanes sort of moving was the HOV lane and the next lane over. Rarely do I get the chance to travel in the high speed lane unless it is moving along between 0 and 25 mph during a stop and crawl.
With a 57.2 mpg indicated result as I exited the 405 mess and numerous I5 jams ahead, I was not expecting to pull off my exit to visit the local grocery store with the results below.
First drive results - 75.6 mpg over 81.6 miles indicated. 82.1 miles actual.
These results are not yet calibrated as 80 to 100 miles from a car running possibly at 75+ is a bit short. I will continue to drive out to maybe 300 miles, top off again and find out how close the FCD really is.
Regardless, the 2017 Elantra Eco even with the huge traffic setback battled its way back to the highest result from a non-hybrid/non-diesel we have ever achieved on my standard driving segment. Depending on how the refuel calibration goes, the 2017 Hyundai Elantra Eco appears to be the most fuel efficient car beating out the highly regarded 16 Civic w/ its 1.5L-T mated to its CVT.
I was always impressed with the Elantra’s value. The SE trim woke me up as to its efficiency capability and the Eco trim appears to have buried not just the segment but all available non-hybrid vehicles in North America fueled with gasoline.
MaxxMPG, the two most favorite cars I've ever owned or driven had less than 130hp. My sisters Saab Sonett III 120ci V4 110 BHP and weighing in under 1900lbs, and my first Volvo turbo an 81 242 five speed 2900 lbs with 127 bhp. My Prius is rated at 134 bhp and that is more than enough power for the car.
Looking forward to seeing steady state results.
I just back calculated the FE after the 57.2 mpg displayed at the 25 mile mark to the 75.6 mpg indicated result after the full 82.1 miles. It comes in at 87.98 mpg. I will have the calibration completed after another 200 to 300 miles and we will see.
The 2017 #Hyundai #Elantra Eco really does have what it takes. 20 miles of an hour and fifteen minute stop and crawl on the infamous 405, 35 miles of city driving in and around Carlsbad and Oceanside, Calif., and 152 miles of reasonably moving I5 Interstate yielded a nice 67.44 mpgUS actual result - 207.7 miles on 3.080 gallons - vs. 68.2 mpg over 206.4 miles indicated.
Besides providing the best non-#hybrid/non-#diesel efficiency of any #car available in North #America, I love seeing the tight fuel consumption display to actual offsets.
Remember this car was in an accident a few weeks ago and was removed from the schedule for over a month. I do not see any cosmetic accident leftovers but the 7-speed DSG is not as smooth as other Elantra Ecos we have driven. I will check the tranny fluid level later as I suspect it is low for obvious reasons.
Man, what else is there to say? Great efficiency in a variety of conditions and the ability to pick up this just over $21k car for ~ $17k! This includes the 7" display w/ backup camera and dynamic guidelimes, Android Auto - voice text messaging works better than I have experienced in any other automobile no matter the price, heated front seats, BSM, and the most comfortable taller driver seating position in the affordable compact segment.
I do wish it had two Fuel Consumption Displays (aFCDs) tied to each trip display and the instantaneous display (iFCD) reached to at least 75 mpg vs the 0 to 50 mpg that it does. Driving with it pegged 90 percent of the time does not provide the feedback necessary to adjust driving parameters to limit fuel consumption. Thank goodness for the ScanGauge!
More later as I have to run...
This looks like a great car. Does it have start/stop ?
My Prius goes up to 100 instant MPG , but I'd like to see more. Why not a display like the Scangauge has ?
I'm really getting frustrated with the long, indeterminate wait for the Ioniq HEV. I need a new car now and I'm forced to re-order my top choices according to what's available now. This car will go near the top.
Just after the witching hour with the 2017 #Hyundai #Elantra Eco and time for the steady states.
Just 6 hours ago we completed the calibration drive with stunning efficiency from a 207.7 mile mixed city/highway drive at 67.4 mpg actual vs 68.2 mpg indicated.
Now that we have an aFCD offset, I can complete the steady state Speed vs FE data collection drive loops.
A few more impressions. See the $138 worth of groceries in the auto opening trunk lid equipped 14.4 cu.ft. trunk? Ease of load and a lot of space for stuff.
This thing rolls like the wind blows. Low RRc Nexen AH8 15's on lightweight alloys and probably low drag bearings and grease are probably the reason.
Interior bits. While I rave about the Apple CarPlay and Android Auto inclusion with the std. 7" screen and rear view camera w/ dynamic guidelines in the very affordable base SE and ECO trims, a few product planning miscues are also present. The cloth texture fabric door insert and brightwork trim into the handles look good but the upper door trim is hard plastic. The place where yours truly places his left elbow. I would have to find a thin black sponge and mount it where my elbow would rest. Not the best solution but a simple workaround. I would also like to see a cloth textured A-Pillar covering like the Jetta/Golf and Prius have vs the hard plastic piece that is there now. I am sure I could pull the plastic pillar and have it covered with an interior color matched cloth and reinstall but OEM is OEM and almost always much longer lasting than an aftermarket solution.
I would also like to see some chrome or faux wood trim around the window and lock controls. Like most affordable compacts today, they are devoid of style in this area.
Outside I would have liked to see deeper feature lines in the hood, a deeper radius character line with a little more descent angle from rear to front, and laid out directly through some shaped door handles vs the rectangular handles there now.
Nitpicking for a few design elements is not in any way, shape, or form a deal breaker but they would be nice to have.
This car has the best seat comfort of all the compacts.
FCW w/ auto brake, RCC and AHB are unfortunately missing as you have to move to the Limited trim for those. It has BSM RCTA however and the 2018 they will surely include the entire pkg.
Regarding the ECO trim's steady state efficiency, the Speed vs FE graph is going to astound. It may have set a new EPA Highway Crossover speed record in fact! I will have to plot it to make sure. It was so high that I completed another loop at 75 mph because the 65 and 70 mph results were blowing by its EPA rated 40 mpg highway number by to large a margin to graph it accurately!
2017 Hyundai Elantra Eco - Speed vs FE Results
The aFCD offset was calculated from the Elantra’s 207.7 actual mile drive. This included 20 miles of an hour and fifteen minute stop and crawl on the infamous 405, 35 miles of city driving in and around Carlsbad and Oceanside, Calif., and 152 miles of reasonably moving I5 Interstate. All in yielding a nice 67.44 mpgUS actual result - 207.7 miles on 3.080 gallons - vs. 68.2 mpg over 206.4 miles indicated.
With the above, the aFCD offset comes in at 0.989. See previous posts for more detail.
Temperatures ranged from 60 to 62 degrees F with calm winds during the NB/SB runs.
The RPM at 60 mph was 1,980 RPM vs the calculated 1,820 RPM.
With CC set at 50, 55, 60, 65, 70 and 75 mph, the Speedometer read the same matching the actual speed as measured per the Garmin.
While completing the steady states between midnight and 03:00am, the 65 mph and 70 mph results were so high I had to complete a 75 mph run - I never complete those - in an attempt to come up with a more accurate EPA highway crossover as the raw aFCD pull was blowing out all past results.
The EPA highway crossover occurred at a new record for a gasoline fueled vehicle.
And what was the calculated EPA highway (40 mpg) crossover speed? An unheard of 78.1 mph! Per the graph, with 67.5 mph crossover occurring at approximately 49 mpg, this 40 mpg highway rated Eco trim should be rated at at least 49 mpg highway. Also an absolutely unheard of result.
Let me pass along a huge congratulations to the Hyundai Elantra Project Engineer, Product Managers, and Engineers in Korea for not only building such an affordable and efficient vehicle but providing new owners with an unexpected benefit by underrating their cars efficiency by such a huge margin.
Who would have thought just 10 years ago that the best conventional drivetrain efficiency engineers in the world would be located in Korea vs. Japan, Europe or the U.S.?
Than again we have not yet driven the 10th gen Civic contingent with a stick yet either.
Looks like it might need to be re-tested. Advertising even 45 MPG would get a lot of people's attention especially as gas prices go up again.
Hyundai submits the test results from their own lab to the EPA - EPA only checks about 15 percent of them - so they are holding back the actuals on purpose. Perfectly legal to do so too. We have seen it in every Hyundai we have driven since the 16 Sonata Hybrid was released. This excludes the Veloster of course which is an aging design.
Imagine if you purchase a 32/40 mpg rated car and you are receiving 45 to 55 mpg from it. That would make for a much more satisfied customer than one buying a 35/49 mpg rated car and receiving 45 to 55 mpg.
And finally the last metric proving this is not an aberration before driving it back to the LA Press Fleet handlers tomorrow morning.
This is my wife driving her RT commute to work and back in the 17 Elantra Eco earlier today.
2017 Hyundai Elantra Eco Review
46.3 mpg indicated (45.8 mpg actual) work RT over 49.3 miles indicated (49.6 miles actual).
47.4 mpg indicated (46.8 mpg actual) for the one-way trip home.
These results takes down both the higher rated 16 Sonata PHEV (38/40 mpg city/highway) and 17 Fusion Energi PHEV(s) (43/41 mpg city/highway) in CS mode on the same RT commute. A (32/40 mpg city/highway) non-hybrid besting higher rated PHEVs in CS mode? She did say traffic was moving along better than usual both to and from which surely helped.
The final drive of the 32/40 mpg city/highway rated 2017 #Hyundai #Elantra Eco before swapping into a Jaguar XE w/ the Ingenium 2.0L TD in just a few minutes.
Talk about a sleeper. I have experienced this type of efficiency in $25k Gen 4 Prius', the $27k Prius Prime, $26k Civic Hybrids, and all the $24k+VW TDIs but never have I experienced anything like this in an almost fully loaded $17k new anything else... Until now.
A great week and thanks for the loan Hyundai.
#Efficient #long #distance #traveler - #CleanMPG
The 2017 Hyundai Elantra Eco still offers the best value and overall efficiency you can buy in the U.S. market without moving to a much more expensive Hybrid. Remember I tried to get Marian into this car instead of the 2017 Sonata Hybrid Limited we end up purchasing but she wanted more size and luxury appointments.
Moving beyond the Sonata Hybrid, the 32/40 mpgUS city/highway rated 2017 Hyundai Elantra Eco's Direct-Injected and Turbocharged 128 hp and 156 lb-ft. of torque at 1,400 rpm 1.4L 4 was awarded a “WardsAuto 10-Best Engines” for 2017.
In their judgment, the affordable Elantra Eco’s 1.4L-T delivered refinement, performance and efficacy far above and beyond its peers.
An integrated cylinder head and exhaust manifold help to improve fuel economy at higher engine speeds, while an optimized straight intake port increases tumble flow for fast combustion, suppressing knock tendency to further enhance efficiency.
2017 Hyundai Elantra Eco 1.4L T
The bargain price includes another upscale feature: the very fast shifting 7-speed dual-clutch transmission.
Tom Murphy, WardsAuto 10-Best Engines Editor:
If you are looking for an affordable compact, look no further than the 2017 Hyundai Elantra Eco and its excellent award winning power plant. My pick for best new car value on the road today.
The WardsAuto 10-Best Engines Class of 2017:
3.0L Turbocharged DOHC I-6 (BMW M240i)
1.5L DOHC 4-cyl./Dual Motor EREV (Chevrolet Volt)
3.6L DOHC V-6/Dual Motor PHEV (Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid)
2.3L Turbocharged DOHC 4-cyl. (Ford Focus RS)
2.0L DOHC 4-cyl./Dual Motor HEV (Honda Accord Hybrid)
1.4L Turbocharged DOHC 4-cyl. (Hyundai Elantra Eco)
3.0L Turbocharged DOHC V-6 (Infiniti Q50)
2.5L Turbocharged DOHC 4-cyl. (Mazda CX-9)
2.0L Turbocharged DOHC 4-cyl. (Mercedes-Benz C300)
2.0L Turbo/Supercharged DOHC 4-cyl. (Volvo V60 Polestar)
Best value in the US market, not available here
Sorry to hear that as this is the one non-hybrid that would be in my drive. I fixed the original post.
My 2018 Hyundai Elantra ECO and its 14.4 cu. ft. trunk cap with 10 cu. ft. of potting soil, about 1.5 cu. ft. container of bottled gas, a flat of plants, and some more plants. Not bad imho as I could have added a few more bags of potting soil.
2018 Hyundai Elantra ECO
With 67k on her clock and having a California Smog check completed for California Registration, I asked the mechanic to check the front discs. He came back and asked if there was any shimmy, pull to one side, or odd noise when I step on the brakes. I said no but thinking the worst, I thought here it comes. He said they are only 50 percent worn! 50,000 miles of Chicago rideshare with 10s of thousands of stops and the discs and pads are only 50 percent worn? I am not sure what kind of material Hyundai is using with their discs and pads but damn!!!
I can sometimes still feel a slight jerk when creeping forward from a stop and it gets worse the longer you sit in stop and crawl traffic but goes away with a few miles of highway? I still may take it in for this issue.
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